Sure Paston made some cruicial saves tonihgt, but he is a massive part of organising the back four/five if you add Lia. If he and durante can't get the defence sorted then naturally we will conceed goals, some of the goals we have conceeded have been down to poor defensive organisation, which Paston must accept some blame - it is broken, either we change the back four or replace Paston.
Queenslander 3x a year.
Sure Paston made some cruicial saves tonihgt, but he is a massive part of organising the back four/five if you add Lia. If he and durante can't get the defence sorted then naturally we will conceed goals, some of the goals we have conceeded have been down to poor defensive organisation, which Paston must accept some blame - it is broken, either we change the back four or replace Paston.
#dontstopbelievin
The rot is deep. It's not just the players (don't seem to care), the coach (out of ideas), or the management structure (mixed messages, bumbling in the media). This whole club is dysfunctional and what's worse is no one involved is willing to admit it. It's like Blackburn after Venkys took over :(
And I appreciate people trying to stay positive and the don't stop believing hashtag and all that but unless there are massive changes to this club between now and next season kicking off this is just going to happen again.
Our imports are not good enough. We've signed aging players to long contracts so we're stuck with them. We have a coach who persists with his core players regardless of how poorly they perform and seems out of ideas for how to change the club. We have no one in the club managing the club's media image so we look like a laughing stock to the general public.Our much hyped academy kids have looked woeful against the ASBP sides. Our assistant coach has no coaching experience at all. Our players seem horribly unfit despite the fact fitness is probably the easiest attribute to develop - definitely more so than skill or tactical knowledge. We are no longer confident of points at home and we haven't fixed our travelling issues. Our best player from the last few seasons looks like he's just given up. We signed a player with a great football pedigree from Europe (for the HAL) and forced him to try and do something he's clearly not used to and destroyed his confidence in the process.
Yes, this is a negative list but before anyone says anything about staying positive - our last 4 games we've conceded 13 goals and scored 3, and two of those games were against teams next to us at the bottom of the table.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
The rot is deep. It's not just the players (don't seem to care), the coach (out of ideas), or the management structure (mixed messages, bumbling in the media). This whole club is dysfunctional and what's worse is no one involved is willing to admit it. It's like Blackburn after Venkys took over :(
And I appreciate people trying to stay positive and the don't stop believing hashtag and all that but unless there are massive changes to this club between now and next season kicking off this is just going to happen again.
Our imports are not good enough. We've signed aging players to long contracts so we're stuck with them. We have a coach who persists with his core players regardless of how poorly they perform and seems out of ideas for how to change the club. We have no one in the club managing the club's media image so we look like a laughing stock to the general public.Our much hyped academy kids have looked woeful against the ASBP sides. Our assistant coach has no coaching experience at all. Our players seem horribly unfit despite the fact fitness is probably the easiest attribute to develop - definitely more so than skill or tactical knowledge. We are no longer confident of points at home and we haven't fixed our travelling issues. Our best player from the last few seasons looks like he's just given up. We signed a player with a great football pedigree from Europe (for the HAL) and forced him to try and do something he's clearly not used to and destroyed his confidence in the process.
Yes, this is a negative list but before anyone says anything about staying positive - our last 4 games we've conceded 13 goals and scored 3, and two of those games were against teams next to us at the bottom of the table.
The rot is deep. It's not just the players (don't seem to care), the coach (out of ideas), or the management structure (mixed messages, bumbling in the media). This whole club is dysfunctional and what's worse is no one involved is willing to admit it. It's like Blackburn after Venkys took over :(
And I appreciate people trying to stay positive and the don't stop believing hashtag and all that but unless there are massive changes to this club between now and next season kicking off this is just going to happen again.
Our imports are not good enough. We've signed aging players to long contracts so we're stuck with them. We have a coach who persists with his core players regardless of how poorly they perform and seems out of ideas for how to change the club. We have no one in the club managing the club's media image so we look like a laughing stock to the general public.Our much hyped academy kids have looked woeful against the ASBP sides. Our assistant coach has no coaching experience at all. Our players seem horribly unfit despite the fact fitness is probably the easiest attribute to develop - definitely more so than skill or tactical knowledge. We are no longer confident of points at home and we haven't fixed our travelling issues. Our best player from the last few seasons looks like he's just given up. We signed a player with a great football pedigree from Europe (for the HAL) and forced him to try and do something he's clearly not used to and destroyed his confidence in the process.
Yes, this is a negative list but before anyone says anything about staying positive - our last 4 games we've conceded 13 goals and scored 3, and two of those games were against teams next to us at the bottom of the table.
Grumpy old bastard alert
hard to believe we're near the top of the salary cap
I just can't believe it. I think an extra zero has been added somewhere by mistake.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
The rot is deep. It's not just the players (don't seem to care), the coach (out of ideas), or the management structure (mixed messages, bumbling in the media). This whole club is dysfunctional and what's worse is no one involved is willing to admit it. It's like Blackburn after Venkys took over :(
And I appreciate people trying to stay positive and the don't stop believing hashtag and all that but unless there are massive changes to this club between now and next season kicking off this is just going to happen again.
Our imports are not good enough. We've signed aging players to long contracts so we're stuck with them. We have a coach who persists with his core players regardless of how poorly they perform and seems out of ideas for how to change the club. We have no one in the club managing the club's media image so we look like a laughing stock to the general public.Our much hyped academy kids have looked woeful against the ASBP sides. Our assistant coach has no coaching experience at all. Our players seem horribly unfit despite the fact fitness is probably the easiest attribute to develop - definitely more so than skill or tactical knowledge. We are no longer confident of points at home and we haven't fixed our travelling issues. Our best player from the last few seasons looks like he's just given up. We signed a player with a great football pedigree from Europe (for the HAL) and forced him to try and do something he's clearly not used to and destroyed his confidence in the process.
Yes, this is a negative list but before anyone says anything about staying positive - our last 4 games we've conceded 13 goals and scored 3, and two of those games were against teams next to us at the bottom of the table.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
Its going to be a roller coaster to the end of the season - possible upsets but also possible disasters. We have to chase wins to have any hope of getting into the playoffs - that will be high risk. I think there was an element of that in todays' result once we got a couple down - basically everyone had to push up which exposed all the weaknesses. Most of all our regular soft losses of possession while trying to play catchup against a team like CCM meant a blowout was always possible. That is the hardest part - we just kept giving the ball away and losing most of the contested balls. Players have to take the responsibility for basics like that.
Hi Ricki
Lol
All translated our passing was abysmal and our ability to hold onto possession moving forward practically non-existent. We can blame Ricki for tactics (?), structure (??), game-plan (???) etc but every player should have those basics whoever is coach is.
#dontstopbelievin
We cannot string 3 passes together, how on earth could we string 3 WINS together?? Absolutely no chance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
Yeah im getting pissed off at this 'we need to stay positive' BS. How do we stay positive? The longer we pretend to stay positive the longer the club will deny any problems and continue to dodge accountability. Its insulting, to be a season ticket holder and be called pathetic and selfish by the owners. Im sad :(
1] Hogg was abandoned for most of the game. He was getting skinned and had no help.
2] WTF is Paston up to? Yet again, the big welly up the field and giving the ball away so the 6'4 defenders could out jump our 5'6 strikers. We just gift the opposition possession every friggen time. Also as our goalkeeper it is his job to keep the defenders informed of what is going on behind their backs. Over the last few games Siggy and Durante seem to be having a go at Paston for not telling them where the opposition players are behind them.
3] We don't ever play the long ball - yeah right. Why are we persisting in big 50 yard lobs all the friggen time? We have no height so keep the friggen ball on the ground. What is wrong with short passing? Last night we spent most of the game passing the ball straight to the opposition. CCM must have been laughing in their dressing room.
4] WTF Ifill? You didn't chase the passes that you could have gotten too - even with your slow legs. Yet, you ran your arse off to go after definate lost causes?? Is it time to call it a day? I fear the legs have gone.
5] STOP Playing route 1 football.
6] HAVE a plan "B"!!
7] STOP Playing route 1 football.
8] Have more passing at practices.
9] HAVE a plan "B" !
By quite a long way too. This is the first time in our history that therr is absolutely nothing positive to talk about. I cant believe we are near the salary cap - what a disgrace that is.
a.haak
Yeah, this.
Except with the correct spelling of 'present'.
But yeah, this.
Supporters cannot slag others for not doing their jobs and then not do theirs.
We must lead by example, because let's face it, right now no-one else is.
Yeah im getting pissed off at this 'we need to stay positive' BS. How do we stay positive? The longer we pretend to stay positive the longer the club will deny any problems and continue to dodge accountability. Its insulting, to be a season ticket holder and be called pathetic and selfish by the owners. Im sad :(
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
Yeah, this.
Except with the correct spelling of 'present'.
But yeah, this.
Supporters cannot slag others for not doing their jobs and then not do theirs.
We must lead by example, because let's face it, right now no-one else is.
+1
What about a "We Want Change" tee shirt/banner?
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
Sure we all moan and bitch about the team, selections, lack of tactics, but those very same people on here that do that, also show up at most every home game. We're a fickle bunch but also a loyal bunch. The Phoenix should feel priveleged to have such a hard core group.
See you's next home game and in Dunedin.
I am not holding my breath. If for any weird reason the team plays amazing football next week then - while I'd be delighted - I'd be left with a suspicion "wtf happened for the last coupla months". So while it'll pain me to see them play the same rubbish next week, at least it will confirm the well-established laws of physics, psychology and economics that seem to be at play here.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
Sure Paston made some cruicial saves tonihgt, but he is a massive part of organising the back four/five if you add Lia. If he and durante can't get the defence sorted then naturally we will conceed goals, some of the goals we have conceeded have been down to poor defensive organisation, which Paston must accept some blame - it is broken, either we change the back four or replace Paston.
Well, it was my favourite, but not for good reasons.
Surely the players need to take responsability for their own actions and choices. They are professional players after all. They really should know most of the time what is happening, unless of course they are ball watching.
Was it Paston's fault that Hogg continually gave Ibini 3 yards of space allowing his to deliver cross with ease.
Was it Paston's fault that Lia watch players run past him all night without tracking or making a tackle?
Was it Paston's fault that Manny couldn't make a tackle?
Was it Paston's fault that Boxall refused to close down any striker all night?
Was it Paston's fault that our midfield couldn't string 3 passes together all night, putting us underpressure regularly?
You are just using Paston as a scape goat. Sure his distribution was honking tonight, but our issues are far wider than 'communication at the back'
Plus we all know Paston is a better organiser than Moss. #feverinjoke
I can't believe the free ride Hogg seems to be getting here. I know we were all awful, but if that was Lochhead out there the forums would have fallen over with the outpouring of hate.
At this point, although I do think Ricki is not the issue, I can't object to the 
calls. BUT given the pretty clearly low budget that Welnix likely will pay given their breakeven aim, you can write off any international coach of any pedigree coming out here, and of those from Aus available, who would you want to hire? Most of those calling for him to go are also on the 'must play pretty football bandwagon' and while Merrick and Kossie are performance wise fine options given their history, orchestrators of tiki-taka they are not.
Sure Paston made some cruicial saves tonihgt, but he is a massive part of organising the back four/five if you add Lia. If he and durante can't get the defence sorted then naturally we will conceed goals, some of the goals we have conceeded have been down to poor defensive organisation, which Paston must accept some blame - it is broken, either we change the back four or replace Paston.
Well, it was my favourite, but not for good reasons.
Surely the players need to take responsability for their own actions and choices. They are professional players after all. They really should know most of the time what is happening, unless of course they are ball watching.
Was it Paston's fault that Hogg continually gave Ibini 3 yards of space allowing his to deliver cross with ease.
Was it Paston's fault that Lia watch players run past him all night without tracking or making a tackle?
Was it Paston's fault that Manny couldn't make a tackle?
Was it Paston's fault that Boxall refused to close down any striker all night?
Was it Paston's fault that our midfield couldn't string 3 passes together all night, putting us underpressure regularly?
You are just using Paston as a scape goat. Sure his distribution was honking tonight, but our issues are far wider than 'communication at the back'
Plus we all know Paston is a better organiser than Moss. #feverinjoke
Sure Paston made some cruicial saves tonihgt, but he is a massive part of organising the back four/five if you add Lia. If he and durante can't get the defence sorted then naturally we will conceed goals, some of the goals we have conceeded have been down to poor defensive organisation, which Paston must accept some blame - it is broken, either we change the back four or replace Paston.
Well, it was my favourite, but not for good reasons.
Surely the players need to take responsability for their own actions and choices. They are professional players after all. They really should know most of the time what is happening, unless of course they are ball watching.
Was it Paston's fault that Hogg continually gave Ibini 3 yards of space allowing his to deliver cross with ease.
Was it Paston's fault that Lia watch players run past him all night without tracking or making a tackle?
Was it Paston's fault that Manny couldn't make a tackle?
Was it Paston's fault that Boxall refused to close down any striker all night?
Was it Paston's fault that our midfield couldn't string 3 passes together all night, putting us underpressure regularly?
You are just using Paston as a scape goat. Sure his distribution was honking tonight, but our issues are far wider than 'communication at the back'
Plus we all know Paston is a better organiser than Moss. #feverinjoke
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
Why all the negative posts, is not one of the colours the phoenix play in yellow and sometime they also play in white?
So why is everyone so negative in the way the played last night after all, it was only one or three that had a bad game by passing to a
player in white.The rest had a good game, they found a player in yellow and presented him with the perfect ball.
Shame Wellnix did not do due diligence on RH before rushing in and presenting him with a contract.His record even at that stage showed that he would not have lasted at any other pro club.
Maybe it is time for Wellnix to start talking to the players to find out what the problems are, but that may just be a waste of time. I can’t see any of the AW’s having a bad word to say about RH as this would jeopardise them from being picked for the WC qualification matches.
I don’t believe that RH will fall on his sword, to me it looks like RH knows he has no show of getting an other A league position,
therefore he will hang in until he is removed.
Time will tell if the Nix will go the way of the last two NZ clubs, it will all come down to who they sign for next season. If the likes of Lia, Paston ect get a contract, the writing is on the wall for crowds of 2 horses and a donkey plus the fools who would pay good money to watch the crap that is being dished up this year.
Plus, our defenders don't go looking for the ball from the back.
Plus, our defenders don't go looking for the ball from the back.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
I wouldn't mind so much about Paston's shit distribution if he at least kept the ball in play. Kicking or throwing it straight out-WTF?
Jr was apparently up at 5.30 this morning watching the game ( MYSKied).From a few texts I've had from him , he's not happy. A few F bombs. I wonder where he got those from? Went to school in a foul mood- oh joy.
With the News going around in Oz at the moment, Maybe some of the Mariners players are on performance enhancing drugs, or (dear i say it) some our players are too. Maybe Paston was part of the match fixing, allowing 5 to go past him (congrats to the winning crooks ha ha). What a SCANDAL !!! What a Drama !!! Then again, i may be blowing smoke, so I'll see you at the next home game, no drama.
