Nix v Everton

Nix v Everton

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Royal2009-03-03 07:59:37

would Everton play there first team? Gangsta!2009-03-03 08:14:17

Hopefully it happens. I know a lot of people who follow the premier league colsely and dont go to Nix games so the target mentioned in the article isnt unrealistic. Also, if more Australian clubs host Everton, would they cut the cost as they would be getting more money for one tour?

Its is a win win for everyone and serious kudos go to the back room staff for even getting in the conversation let alone getting the game.

Would be great if they can pull it off and no lose $$$ hand over fist.

They also mentioned playing Fulham. Any ideas why Fulham?

Cahill and Saha v Siggy and Dodd!!!

Tbh don't expect their first team or anything close to it. wellyphoenixfan2009-03-03 09:57:35

I can't see them playing any 1st team players. maybe a couple on the bench over the games and yeah Cahill probably on in Auz.

I would prefer Fulham to come if it means first team though hopefully Tony can make a deal that will see at least half their first team play (Like Cahill, Lescott, Arteta...)

I'd rather see Everton than Foolham but then, seeing the Nix against either is a no brainer, I'd be there anyway. David Moyes has done ok considering his resources. If Everton feilded their strongest side, it could be very entertaining and if they feilded a lot of youngsters, it could be quite interesting - remember Rooney as a 16 year old? We might see a newer version.

The Phoenix are not going to enter in to a contract with a club who put out a youth team.  For the money being invested the Phoenix will need 20k or so to make the game viable and non-Phoenix addicts aren't turning up to see a bunch of players they have never heard of.

How often do EPL clubs take their first team half-way across the world to play a team that their youth team could beat?

Also too much chance of injury to their best players not to mention they will want to give a rest to these players by playing reserves/ youth team players. I could find examples of this when EPL clubs tour Asia and bring one big star plus a bunch of youth and second team players but I can't be stuffed.

Yeah but Everton coming down is a more of a thing to do with their name then the players they bring. People could say "I saw Everton play" but so what if it is a bunch of no-names plus Cahill.

I would assume it would be a team mixed with both first teamers and youngsters/reserves. That is normally the case.

Here is Man Utd's team against Kaizer Chiefs last year:

Manchester United team: Kuszczak, Neville, Brown, Vidic, O'Shea, Fletcher, Scholes, Giggs, Eagles, Tevez, Rooney. Subs: Amos, Evans, Simpson, Silvestre, Gibson, Martin, Campbell.

A lot of first team experience there.

Edit: and the team for the game against Orlando Pirates a few days later:

United: Foster, Brown, Ferdinand, Evans (Simpson 88), Silvestre (O'Shea 62), Eagles, Carrick (Scholes 70), Gibson (Fletcher 80), Martin, Tevez (Rooney 70), Campbell.
Bullion2009-03-03 10:33:08

Yeah that would be alright for a team like ManU but for Everton they don't have as many top stars or the same amount of depth as ManU so injuries could be more harmful for them.

I say again, the Phoenix will be contracting based on guarantees about the quality of squad and the playing of recognised players.  The Phoenix will have a good idea of what it will take to get people along and are not going to agree to anything without some guarantees.

Exactly. People are not going to pay around $100 to watch the Everton youth team

Ok heres Everton vs Chicago Fire (Everton lost 2-0):
Howard     
Neville     
Baines     
Rodwell     
Lescott     
Jagielka     
Pienaar (85' Yobo)   
Gosling    
Yakubu (79'Jutkiewicz)
Arteta (64' Vaughan)   
Baxter (46' Osman)

and vs Colorado Rapids a few days later: (Everton won 2-1)

Howard
Neville
Jagielka
Lescott
Baines (46' Valente)
Arteta (77' Baxter)
Pienaar
Gosling (68' Jutkiewicz)
Rodwell (46' Yobo)
Osman
Yakubu



wellyphoenixfan2009-03-03 10:43:31

Pretty good squad I would say but these MLS teams are better quality and may have paid more. Good sign however for us.

Howard, Neville, Lescott, Arteta, Pienaar, Osman, Yakubu are players I know of and have seen.

Also another good player is Jagielka from that list.

Yeah, in England frame now I believe.

Had a superb clearance off the line against West Brom this past weekend.

Add Cahill who will almost certainly play, Saha who has since joint them, and James Vaughan who is talked of as a bit flash coming through.

I'm a big Yobo fan as well.

Well Feverish I was just saying some teams are selfish and bring crap teams for pre-season games.

But remember that the US is a far bigger market then Aus plus NZ so they would have a better reason to bring a good team for those games.

I think those of you who are questioning whether or not we would see first team players should consider a couple of things:

1) It would form part of our (Everton's) pre-season capaign and so I would expect most first teamers who are fit to come. Some of the African players often have international duty during the ENglish off-season and so they might not make it, but for the most part I imagine it will be a squad with many first teamers who are getting back their match fitness in a friendly atmosphere before the season proper kicks off.

2) For those claiming we would field a youth side, you only have to look at most of the squads we have named for Premier League matches this season to see that it has contained a lot of young players. We have a very small senior squad and with many injuries to contend with have had to give the youngsters a chance this season. Jack Rodwell and Dan Gosling can consider themselves all-but-first team after their performances of late and the likes of Jose Baxter and John Paul Kissock have been on the bench many times this season. So yes, there would be youth players involved - but that doesn't mean wouldn't be bringing a first team squad!

3) Hard News is right. The 'Nix saw what a piss poor job Auckland did of hosting a 'Beckham game' and that largely comes down to the fact that no one gave a sh*t about the players involved. Yes, we don't have anyone of Beckham's fame, but the 'Nix have a decent fan base in Wellington (unlike that motley collection of uselessness the Oceania All-Stars) and Everton are a big club with some top players and quite a bit of ex-pat support (myself included). The Phoenix will know then that there is the potential for a good turnout but they will guarantee that by ensuring that Everton are committed to playing a strong side. Auckland lost a lot of money through their f**k up, and the 'Nix will have realised just how well they did when they held the first one, and will be able to repeat the trick.

4) For the guy who said he hopes Arteta will play, I doubt that very much. He's out for six months with ligament damage and I don't think he'll be ready for July, which is a huge shame. We might see the return of the Yak though, there's an outside chance of that.

I really hope this happens, I had a season ticket at Goodison from the age of five until I moved out here when I was seventeen - would love to get behind the People's Club again!

As I said before its about the team name not the players although I don't think the Phoenix would I imagine Perth probably would.

ok now i really dont understand you

What don't you understand?

And LG you make my point exactly, Everton could be coming but we don't even know who is playing yet. Would we be excited if it was a team like Watford or Derby? Just because its a team with a big name doesn't mean that it will be quality opposition.wellyphoenixfan2009-03-03 11:10:21

You're implying that the name "Everton" will be the sole attraction, not the fact that most football fans have heard of David Moyes, Tim Carhill, Arteta, Yaka, Neville??

Comparing Everton (6th in Premier League) with Watford and Derby (Championship clubs) is ludicrous.

So you think that the team currently 2 points off the top 5 in England may not be quality opposition for the Phoenix? What world do you live in?