Nix v New bling- match thread

hey maybe the 2 weeks off will be a fresh start for the nix.... I mean it is only a matter of finishing. I'm still not worried, happens to alot of clubs. we will find the net soon.

I'm glad our fresh up match is against the fury, perfect chance to score sh*t loads.

also 2 clean sheets in a row, undefeayed in 5 games. it is only 1 thing missing.

and also wouldn't be a good game for bahrain to study .

I'm sure it's herberts plan!!!!

Are you still blaming Paston for not organising us to score a goal?

Hold on, did we have him as a starting player in any game yet? Maybe he is actually better as a starting player but then where would you place him in the field and who do you drop? This bearing in mind that in the season so far, we have outplayed everyone except Newcastle and Adelaide.

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My bad - was looking at that date, and got the round numbers wrong. Only imported Phoenix fixtures on my calendar from A-League, and assumed the other matches were played on the same date.

If you have noticed, even when Bertos has slowed down, GC started to string a few things together looking for that flukey goal.

Ifill sluggish with his shots and started to default to the wide after giving the much need boost the attack through the centre. Positives were many, especially having to include some more attack through the centre rather than from the wide. A few centre attacks were by the cut ins from the wide but there was only a couple of balls directly through the centre midfield a straight to the centre forward position.

In open play, it would be nice to have the simple 1-2 from the centre midfield to the centre forward position for an occasional shot in front of the goal area and not to the sightly side which ask more for angles and add pressure to customise the shot.

We really contested the 50/50 balls, hassle them on the blind, shut the passing channels down, poke, stretched, jumped, push/pull ourselves to the ball. Really pressured/contrast their first touch. Even stealing their balls when it should have not happened. We hardly gave them any tempo for them to get started. Really literally spoiled their on-field play. That set a good tione for us.

Need to work on the quicker communication. Really wanted Greenacre to scream for the ball early.

I would be good if Bertos look for someone to 1-2 with in the box, so that he would get the ball travelling to him rather than it travelling away for him and get his shot down under the bar. Notice that his shots (save one) from his dribble, had the ball a bit away from his standing leg of the kick and so gave a high shot. His best shot was the free kick where he had the free kick balll on a side to back pass from Greenacre which the GK couldn't hold it and Ifill was offside trying to nab the spilled ball. If he get a few from open play, then his shots would be on target and causing more trouble for the opposition GK.

Greenacre, tough day again. more so for the two headers that he could not get a suitable contact with.

In Caceres starting game was when he was not match fit. I am sure he has picked up his fitness enough to start. But would you drop Brown or Lia? Both of which are doing the hard yards in the midfield.

I like the work that Costa did when he came on. It is possible, but he can be the next replacement for Greenacre if Greeacre is injured or lost his work rate. Costa is able to do the same thing as Greenacre and is much faster but smaller.

They do have  a game next week the Rest ( non all whites) come up here and play YHM at Memorial Park All welcome

hasn't scored any goals? doesn't look particularly inspirational on attack...

being fair the front 3 Ifill, Greenacre and Bertos don't really look like they are synching at all...Leo and Ifill playing mostly for themselves...no one making runs, no understanding about where players will be, and no idea where the goals are going to come from.

I say bench Greenacre and Ifill, start Disco Troy and Costa up front with Leo, and bring them on in the second half, mad as all hell! Unless of course Troy and Costa bag a brace each...
martinb2009-10-03 10:23:07

yeh would have left Daniel on and taken Greenie off. Daniel is the player- what are we complaining about..? oh yeah, who has been giving service to the front line and creating opporutnities.

Alot of you are saying who would partner greenacre upfront if ifill played behind, (and when I mean behidn I  mean like Culina who didn't always stay central.. really he was everywhere..) but we still have the untried Chen. He can't be that bad if we brought him all the way here and wasted an import slot on him surely.

your havin a laugh. jog on.

Greenacre has one of the best strike rates in lower league English football. 130 odd goals from 350 odd appearances. That statistic certainly suggests that we are doing something wrong.

  Scottishbhoy2009-10-03 10:41:45

0 - 0 against one of the top sides away. Gotta be a good result which ever way you look at it. No need to drop anybody imo. Just some fine tuning of combinations and the expectation from players in relation to the formation they are playing. The real problem here is the lack of a decent pre season build up, regardless of the trip to China this team really only got together in the 1st league game. The results they are getting now should have been preceded by 2 or 3 wins.

 

i say we keep the same lineup going

Against Queensland with a header. Finishing is really starting to haunt us- Although we didn't have any clear shooting chances you'd really hope at least one of our numerous 16 shots or something would be testing the keeper. Likewise with headers Greenacre should've done much better with his and daniels was unlucky.

Another draw that could've been so much more.

a point and a clean sheet away to the top team in the league is nothing to sniff at.

Another draw, meh.

I would just like to say... Porter has a ridiculously big nose. That is all.

Because 1) we aren't scoring goals.
               2) Ifill is coming back from injury
               3) We are painfully slow tranisitoning forward- we take the ball run and then stop hold it              up
                 4) I like fast, keen counter attacking play- haven't seen much of it
                5) Greenacre isn't being used properly, or hasn't found his feet in this current formation
                6) ensures against complancency- and gives them a half to really blast at when hopefully the other team is a little bit tired, and they are pissed off at not being started and ready to make a real difference to proceedings...
                7) To give Troy a run. He scored a couple of good goals and up to his head but was a key factor in some dynamic attacking performances from us last year.
                 8) I want so see more kiwis starting. Just me.

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I didn't say as a long term fix, but I really liked our 433 with Smeltz, Bertos and Disco Troy and Ifill, Greenacre and Leo (or is it Daniel) just aint the same. Some young fit keen legs chasing up the defenders wouldn't hurt.
 

 

Because 1) we aren't scoring goals. because we greeny isn't getting the ball. watch the game you'll see Ifill and Bertos doing it themselve. Yes he should of scored the ehader but he isn't exactly the 10ft target man we need
               2) Ifill is coming back from injury looked alright to me
               3) We are painfully slow tranisitoning forward- we take the ball run and then stop hold it              up  what are costa and hearfield going to do to change that? Stick Ifill behind Chen and Greeny to roam in a Culina type style
                 4) I like fast, keen counter attacking play- haven't seen much of it Uhh, I guess you can blame Lochhead for that, he doens't seem to be hitting his game like v1
                5) Greenacre isn't being used properly, or hasn't found his feet in this current formation  So why would you bench him? If he hasn't found his feet keep going with him. Who would you replace him with.. Costa? we've already seen he's not the saviour everyone thinks he is
                6) ensures against complancency- and gives them a half to really blast at when hopefully the other team is a little bit tired, and they are pissed off at not being started and ready to make a real difference to proceedings...Didn't he do that with Diego and Ferrente? 
                7) To give Troy a run. He scored a couple of good goals and up to his head but was a key factor in some dynamic attacking performances from us last year. Am I the only one to think Hearfield isn;t that good? he hasn't hit is potential and I doubt he will
                 8) I want so see more kiwis starting. Just me. So start Mulligan?
 

So, a performance that was potentially our best of the season so far, and yet again I am left with a feeling of overwhelming frustration that we just couldn't nick a win against what was an utterly woeful Gold Coast side. No denying we played our part in making them look bad, but they could not pass water last night and where more terrible than I could ever have imagined.

 

I didn't say as a long term fix, but I really liked our 433 with Smeltz, Bertos and Disco Troy and Ifill, Greenacre and Leo (or is it Daniel) just aint the same. Some young fit keen legs chasing up the defenders wouldn't hurt.
 
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Greenacre simply isn't a fast player or if he is he hasn't shown it yet. He doesn't seem to get the ball at his feet and run all over the show. He got back and took the ball off players in the midfield a couple of times, but was very static in the box, and didn't put much pressure on the defenders with the ball. That might be Ricki's instructions, but..

I remember some of out best games last year were when we put pressure on. One of the things Costa did do when he came out was force an error from Van der Brink, and make the defenders rush on the ball. Another thing that Costa did was get into space, and nearly got the ball at the back post from a good pass from Ifill.

I have liked Greenacre's style, but I don't like the foward line as a whole. I haven't seen any great understanding between them at the moment. To answer Steve-o Greenacre won us some good free kicks- we almost scored from one. He should have put away the chance and might yet- it took Van Dyke a long time to fire.
martinb2009-10-03 12:35:09

                7) To give Troy a run. He scored a couple of good goals and up to his head but was a key factor in some dynamic attacking performances from us last year. Am I the only one to think Hearfield isn;t that good? he hasn't hit is potential and I doubt he will
                 8) I want so see more kiwis starting. Just me. So start Mulligan?
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Hearfield is an agressive attacker who is hungry for the ball and goals, and you can see his desire on the pitch even if his skills don't always match that. He has had little game time this year, but as I said was really good for us when we had a streak of good results last season. I think he has to play a part if we are going to get good results. And I don't see why the incumbents shouldn't be feeling the pressure. I want to see the attack demanding the ball, getting pissed off when they lose it, and going forward fast. And passing the ball quickly and confidently, because they know the other players are there in support.

I'd be happy to see any kiwis doing well in the 'nix colours. Mully has been poor, but is no right back. Unfortunately for us. All I'll say is I'd have him ahead of Ferrante in the midfield cover, at least until he proves he is equally poor there too.

 

we need someone like Miller, Culina, Fred to put the balls in to Greenacre....... i can't remember the last time Bertos passed the ball to him tbh.

or, Terry could buy us Lampard..................

AMEN TO THAT !!!

p.s - FIFA 10 was right - WE DID DRAW !!