Wellington Phoenix Men

Nix v RADelaide Saturday 27th October, 7:30pm SS2 from Hindmarsh

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over 13 years ago

Our next goal celebration should be: line up as a team,take 3 steps,fall over. 


Allegedly

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over 13 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

aitkenmike wrote:

How many steps can you take between the 'foul' and the dive before (as News says) they become seperate incidents.  Can a player be tugged on half way then go down 10m later after realising the ball has got away from him, yet it not be called a dive?



This really is the key.  Simulation is defined as faking a injury or a foul.  So if it is one 'incident' then he hasn't dived.
This is at the core of this problem - what is a dive?  Is exaggerating contact a dive?  Is falling over after you get touched but not fouled a dive?  I bet no-one at the FFA could answer this which makes their stance fanciful.

Not sure Ricki took the right approach referencing the Torres one, I think Torres pretty clearly got kicked and was mistakenly carded!

Normo's coming home

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over 13 years ago

Adelaide have done this before. 



Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 13 years ago

No, but if you look closely, the Melbourne defender (Vargus?) touches Cristiano on the arm, so there was contact.  Definite penalty, yours truly - A-League (we can't 2nd guess referees) MRP

I know, I know, its serious!

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over 13 years ago

Colvinator wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

This from the regs..


Obvious Error means a decision by the Referee to:
(e) issue a Yellow Card when a Red Card was warranted;
(f) not issue any card when a Red Card was warranted;
(g) issue a Red Card when no card was warranted;
(h) not Expel a Team Official when Expulsion was warranted; and
(i) not issue a Yellow Card for Simulation when a Yellow Card was warranted,.
being a decision that no referee in the possession of all the facts, including all Broadcast Footage, could reasonably have made.



So under those regulations, it is hard to argue under (g) "no card was warranted", though you could, but clearly Jeronimo should have been punished under (i), as there was clearly simulation that warranted a yellow card. Otherwise you are saying to players, if there is any contact on you by a opposition player, you are welcome to dive at the time, or afterwards, and we won't punish you for that.
Goddam FFA! Don't spout regulations at me! I demand Justice! JUSTICE!!

\..

... But I don't have a spaceship...

Can we send several hundred emails of complaint to the FFA? Anyone got a good email address we can vent out disapointment at? Seems a simpler alternative to interplanetary travel.

"Yellow Fever are fantastic – I have to say that"

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over 13 years ago

Clear contact on the arm, therefore there was a foul. FFA logic.


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 13 years ago

All the nix players falling over as soon as the ball hits the back of the net would be a great celebration,and send a real message (and probably incur another fine which could get us another karma keg)


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over 13 years ago

To be honest, when I read the decision I felt sick. How they could come to that decision reeks of something more sinister. I have laughed at some comments in the past about how the FFA may have it in for the Nix and don't want them to win the league, but this decision deserves a red card and a ban

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over 13 years ago

Players should all take dives when shaking hands with Geronimo at our home match against them.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago · History

Id like to see someone do it for that half time chat thing they do with players before they walk down the tunnel.
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over 13 years ago

I'd just say one thing - Adelaide have done pretty well with their Argentinians, first Flores and now this guy...

Normo's coming home

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over 13 years ago

This is my work's local.

Half of it is all awesomeness. The other half is the dogs bollocks.

It's a sign.

(no really, it is a sign).

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over 13 years ago

Royal wrote:

To be honest, when I read the decision I felt sick. How they could come to that decision reeks of something more sinister. I have laughed at some comments in the past about how the FFA may have it in for the Nix and don't want them to win the league, but this decision deserves a red card and a ban

 

If it was the other way round and a Nix player had dived (god forbid) the card would have been recinded and the nix player banned for 2 games.  Any time a nix player is less than 2m onside he is offside and vice versa.  Look at the statistics on cards and penalties awarded to the nix to see how we are treated.  We will not be allowed to win this league.  We will never be allowed in the top two to make sure the GF is not over here.  We will never be allowed to make the GF Remember the Sydney punched in goal.

 

The game was reffed down the middle until we scored.  The instruction was clearly sent out at half time to the refs.  Even the biased full of shit commentators stated "Home town decisions" and the "Phoenix not getting the rub of the green"

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over 13 years ago
But despite evidence to the contrary, the league's match review panel of Simon Micallef, Alan Davidson and Alan Contini last night determined there was "no obvious error" in referee Jarred Gillett's decision.

Who are these guys and what back ground have they got to adjudicate on these decisions. Relations to officials maybe

 

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over 13 years ago

The email bomb idea has merit

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago · History

I am only going to comment on the Ben Sigmund incident and not the interesting offside calls.

The dive is not the real problem.

Problem 1.  The player was not denied an obvious goal scoring opportunity. The keeper was closer to the ball than the attacker.  The attacker had kicked the ball so far ahead that he had no likelyhood of getting it back before our keeper scopped it up.  This is evident in the footage.

Problem 2  The Assistance Referee was abysmal.  He had a better view of the incident and should have called the referee over and said what he saw.  He saw the tug, he saw the attacker lift his legs as though he had been kicked when he had not and he saw that the attacker has no chance of scoring.  Abysmal in that he left his partner out to dry.

Problem 3  Our failure to recognise FFA's constant view that it is their competition, their rules, their judge, jury and executioner and the obvious lack of justice shown by them against a non Australian team.  We should realise that this has happened to every team playing in all of the codes run by and from Australia.

Problem 4  We expected FFA do to do anything other than what they did.  Our hearts said they should,  but our brains should have told us that they would do just what they did - nothing - see problem 3.

Problem 5  FFA has now made diving legal.

Well, I suggest we now learn some appropriate Spanish words to greet Jeronimo when he appears at the Ring of Fire.  But we need to make it known to FFA that Jeronimo is not the only one showing poor judgement.

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over 13 years ago


How about at the adelaide home game everybody sits down when he touches the ball .Simulate falling over?

I LOVE LAMP

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over 13 years ago


shit not till Feb 24th

I LOVE LAMP

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over 13 years ago


Hire Clattenburg? I hear he's about to be sacked for being racist, and you know how they love that shit in 'fuckin straya'

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over 13 years ago


email bomb to the FFA, it's shocking and I for one think we should all be calling for an independant review, searching out corruption in our game.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago · History

Azevo wrote:

U037 wrote:

Random thought: Wouldn't it be great if the FFA spent a few bucks and brought in a marquee referee to raise the standard of officiating in the HAL. I reckon someone from The Falkland Islands or Nauru would fit the bill.


Marquee/Import Refs, love it.

 

 

An Idea I have been throwing around for the past 5 seasons! There is an old match thread somewhere on here that backs up my claim!

Maybe the mods can find it ad post a linkie?

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 13 years ago

bigtobz wrote:

This is my work's local.

Half of it is all awesomeness. The other half is the dogs bollocks.

It's a sign.

(no really, it is a sign).

 

 

Pwaaaahahahahahahahahaha!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 13 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

terminator_x wrote:

Sigh, there's a parallel universe where Siggy doesn't touch Jeronimo, Paston grabs the ball just before legitimately colliding with him and leaving the little bastard unconscious on the ground. I wanna live in that world.


This is the darkest timeline. 

*Heart Emoticon* He should have caught the dice!

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over 13 years ago

Yeah yeah that's the story! Holding up score cards every time he hits the deck would look classic!

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over 13 years ago

Total BS. The key to it now though is that the boys can refocus and use it as fuel to smash the Tards this weekend.

Pin these headlines all over the walls boys!

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over 13 years ago

Those calling it a conspiracy, that is ridiculous, the FFA are too incompetent for that. The limited scope of the MRP has let them avoid dealing with the bigger issue, that is bureaucracy.

Hope the boys can put this behind them and focus on the Victory game. Picking up points there is vital.

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over 13 years ago

Meanwhile, somewhere in Jared Gilletts tiny little brain...

 


"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 13 years ago

This is getting silly. After an extreme close-up super-slo-mo replay it is very, very obvious that Siggy brutally fouled the Agentinian version of Greg Luganis by lightly brushing his arm

You're probably sitting on a chair now. I challenge you to lightly brush your own arm (or ask a bystander to do it for you) without being knocked clear off your chair and ending up sprawled on the carpet.


Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago · History

 Adelaide fan tells me that we should be upset by Durante as "Code of Conduct applies, not libel law. It is unprofessional and disrespectful in the extreme to call a fellow player a cheat."

Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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over 13 years ago

dairyflat wrote:

 Adelaide fan tells me that we should be upset by Durante as "Code of Conduct applies, not libel law. It is unprofessional and disrespectful in the extreme to call a fellow player a cheat."

Not when he's a cheat, it isn't!

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago · History


Adelaide fans have this one wrong! They think that the FFA are punishing Durante for calling another player a cheat. The truth is they are reprimanding him for labelling the Match Officials as incompetent!

So all you Adelaide fans out there, pull your heads out of your arses and see this for what it really is!

 

NB: This post was typed whilst I was lying on the floor at work after a colleague walked within 5 yards of me and knocked me to the ground!!!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 13 years ago

This is relevant.



Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 13 years ago

Tana Umanga will be in Wellington for Tactical Tiddlywinks training pre next A League home game.

Football is a non contact game and refs will strictly enforce this on the Wellington Phoenix. 


  Supporter For Ever - Keep The Faith - Foundation Member - Never Lets FAX Get In The Way Of A Good Yarn

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago · History

Blew.2 wrote:

Tana Umanga will be in Wellington for Tactical Tiddlywinks training pre next A League home game.

Football is a non contact game and refs will strictly enforce this on the Wellington Phoenix. 


Two tweets from Clint Bolton yesterday:

"Maybe we can kill 2 birds with 1 stone & bring in netball referees to make football a non contact sport.....  #divedivedive"

"and while we're at it why don't we just get rid of keepers & defenders seeing as they just get in the way....."

Mr Bolton went up in my estimations after I read those.

 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 13 years ago

Jag wrote:

Two tweets from Clint Bolton yesterday:

"Maybe we can kill 2 birds with 1 stone & bring in netball referees to make football a non contact sport.....  #divedivedive"

"and while we're at it why don't we just get rid of keepers & defenders seeing as they just get in the way....."

Mr Bolton went up in my estimations after I read those.

 

 

 

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 13 years ago

C-Diddy wrote:

Jag wrote:

Two tweets from Clint Bolton yesterday:

"Maybe we can kill 2 birds with 1 stone & bring in netball referees to make football a non contact sport.....  #divedivedive"

"and while we're at it why don't we just get rid of keepers & defenders seeing as they just get in the way....."

Mr Bolton went up in my estimations after I read those.

 

 

 

Wrong social media platform...

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago · History


I am not a Twit!

Anyways, that hand signal means something totally different in Newcastle and it's not alsways something you might "Like"

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 13 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

This is relevant.



It shows a clip of Tim Brown diving... Ummm... Cheat ?



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