Nix vs Gold Coast 7:30pm Friday 13th

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One thing then I'm going to be sweetness and light, and it's probably been mentioned.

Hearfield for MacAllister. Why ? As it happened I thought it was stupid idea and I'm still baffled by it.

Anyway. 3 goals. Pair to Greenie - f**king well done that man.

Typical Herbert conservative game - cost us three points. At home when you are 3 - 1 up you go for four not sub your striker.

Agree with both of you

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chocnut wrote:

Crowd?

Wet and cold.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Hard News wrote:

chocnut wrote:

Crowd?

Wet and cold.

Ha Ha. Bet my rugby loving mate it would be 9k plus.

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eddetchon wrote:

just got back.who exactly in the YF zone thought it was a good idea to get a 'smeltzy what's the score' chant going at 83min?ï¿½ with f***ing inevitable consequences.ï¿½

I did say this.

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Disappointed we ended up with a draw from 3-1 up but hard to argue a draw wasn't fair - we could have easily gone down by a couple.

I thought, in the conditions, the standard of play was pretty good - hate to admit it but GCU looked very good at times - Culina running the show and Smeltz on his game.

Ifill looked sharp, wrapped Greenie got a couple (a real confidence boost) and great to see Leo taking on players again.

Understood the idea behind the subbing of McAllister but I get very nervous when you bring on a fresh player and change the shape - we lost our rhythm and sure enough.....

McAllister puts himself about but took the wrong option a couple of times. Biggest worry for me though was the defense - Lochhead got passed too easily too many times and Siggy still looks less than fully fit.

There were patches when we looked very good so not worried but a bit to work on.

He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

they never announced the crowd figure. i reckon 9,000 just from looking around me.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I thought it was 8,300.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

valeo wrote:

And the assumption coming from you that Toto would've done anything but flail around in the water and look lost is just as creative :D

Agree to disagree. He could've come on and been brilliant but i'm just saying it would've been very unlikely.

I'm not saying Toto would have been a success.

a: I was saying that Toto for Ifill would have been a better sub than Mac for Hearfield because it would have allowed Ricki to play attacking for a bit longer then assess what to do based on any influence he would have had. When Hearfield went on, that signalled the shut up shop mentality right then and the hand was played. IF Toto had worked, then it'd be a master coaching stroke. If not, then you still bring on Disco for Leo and ask him to play deeper, which is similar to what ended up anyway (Leo off, Disco defending)

b: You said that Pav would have been a better fit in this game than Toto because of experience and style. How does the 21yo kid have more experience? As for style, the players that would have been the closest match (Bertos, Ifill, Daniel) had no problems.

Thats what I am saying. I'm not saying Toto would have lit it up but to say Toto is not as experienced as a 21 yo kid and his style is wrong for that game is reaching.
Jeff Vader2010-08-13 22:41:21

Grumpy old bastard alert

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eddetchon wrote:

Shauneboy wrote:

plenty of positives (not only being dry and drinking emersons limited release oreti red while in dunedin!)

nice positive write up there shauneboy. can't say i felt quite as chipper sitting in the stands watching a 3-1 lead go down the toilet. specially since there was only tui to flush it down with. if only the stadium served emerson's!

nice!

great support from you lot- and sure I would be spewing after that if I was in the stands. looking forward to the day I can get to a game in the ring of fire. (have already booked leave to get to chch match in December. Wonderfully, last time there was to see the kingz (sorry!) draw 3-3 with perth glory. it made my daughter cry (poor thing was only about 8 months old as I screamed when the equalizer was scored!)- she is now nearly 11 and right into footy and want s to be the next rosie white (see her goal in what was a disappointing world cup campaign- but tell me there is a better goal so far this year!)

Not too dis-heartened with the result. really was a bit of a lottery with the pitch, and both teams tried to play football on the whole, and mostly succeeded - I do think they both will be there at seasons end.

Now drinking emersons jp- a lovely beer, but also my last, so next "dropping" to my standard - and lovely- macs rock hopper.

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Siggy had some dodgy moments. 2 or 3 times it was clearly Durantes ball and he came charging in and took it. But made some crucial tackles.

3-3. Gutted after the match but in hindsight we were probably lucky tbf. Smeltz and Porter had straightforward chances and Caravella hit the woodwork.

I liked how Smeltz wasn't a c**t when he scored. Culina was.

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Boro4eva wrote:

Toto impressed me at Hutt Rec last week ..albeit in less wet conditions..anyway..its done and dusted. Roll on next week..

How do you find out about these training sessions?

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Hard News wrote:

One thing then I'm going to be sweetness and light, and it's probably been mentioned.ï¿½ Hearfield for MacAllister.ï¿½ Why ?ï¿½ As it happened I thought it was stupid idea and I'm still baffled by it.Anyway.ï¿½ 3 goals.ï¿½ Pair to Greenie - f**king well done that man. ï¿½

I don't think it was such a bad idea. Apart from Hearfield being f**king awful tonight (and all three games I have seen so far this season), it shifted us back to the 4-3-3 that we played very well last year. Its more about the sit back and be dominated attitude, and that started immediately after the third goal, and prior to the formation shift.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

And Ifill went a bit invisible late in the game. Though so did a lot of players. And yeah I thought Hearfield was going on as an attacking mid when he came on. Thought it was a big risk changing the shape.

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Shauneboy wrote:

Now drinking emersons jp- a lovely beer, but also my last, so next "dropping" to my standard - and lovely- macs rock hopper.

Big drop Bro, hang in as long as you can

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alt+6+4 wrote:

Boro4eva wrote:

Toto impressed me at Hutt Rec last week ..albeit in less wet conditions..anyway..its done and dusted.ï¿½ Roll on next week..

How do you find out about these training sessions?

Preseason match against U-20s.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Hard News wrote:

chocnut wrote:

Crowd?

Wet and cold.

dry and drunk

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But MacAllister gave us an outlet and on a number of occassions he was key in defence making headers with his height.

The moment we lost that we dropped further and further back.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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it could have bee n a great night, i've felt a lot worse after letting a two goal lead slip

the conditions did not help

we may well tear teams apart again on dray pitches

not particulalry happy with how it finished but certainly delighted to be back at the RoF in full voice

3 scoring buzzes felt great

but ...aaarghhh

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Hard News wrote:

But MacAllister gave us an outlet and on a number of occassions he was key in defence making headers with his height.The moment we lost that we dropped further and further back.

true, if he had stayed on we could have played it long and have him hold it up for Greenie etc

easy to see these things in hindsight

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

valeo wrote:

I'm not saying Toto would have been a success.a: I was saying that Toto for Ifill would have been a better sub than Mac for Hearfield because it would have allowed Ricki to play attacking for a bit longer then assess what to do based on any influence he would have had. When Hearfield went on, that signalled the shut up shop mentality right then and the hand was played. IF Toto had worked, then it'd be a master coaching stroke. If not, then you still bring on Disco for Leo and ask him to play deeper, which is similar to what ended up anyway (Leo off, Disco defending)b: You said that Pav would have been a better fit in this game than Toto because of experience and style. How does the 21yo kid have more experience? As for style, the players that would have been the closest match (Bertos, Ifill, Daniel) had no problems.Thats what I am saying. I'm not saying Toto would have lit it up but to say Toto is not as experienced as a 21 yo kid and his style is wrong for that game is reaching.

I'm not sure where you got the experience thing from because I never said that. (and if I did it would've been referring to Daniel and Hearfield coming on before Toto)

valeo2010-08-13 22:42:45

a.haak

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Anyone got highlights?

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Horus wrote:

AllWhitebelievr wrote:

Robbed!!! It was ours for the win but that last header goal by Culina was a kick in the gut for a bad day for the defence. It was a fun game to watch however.

ï¿½

Are you serious? robbed? gold coast should have had 6 or 7. nix were outplayed and were extremely dissapointing at the back.

Horus, thank heavens there are some people who tell the truth. Techenically were were miles behind, and if it had been a dry ground we would have benn hammered.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Oh well, that sucks. Subbing Hearfield on cost us the 3 points, I can see what Ricki wanted to do, but it turned out to be a horrible decision.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

How did Hearfield coming on cost us the 3 points? Did he score 2 own goals?

Need to see a replay of the last goal again but he definitely wasn't at fault for the 2nd

a.haak

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Hard News wrote:

But MacAllister gave us an outlet and on a number of occassions he was key in defence making headers with his height.

The moment we lost that we dropped further and further back.

And thats why I would have put Toto on for Ifill instead of Hearfield for Mac. See if he could create something out of nothing for 10 mins for Mac and (I want to say Cheese) Greenie until the 70th min mark and then decide the next step.

Ifill was limping and most people could see it.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Entertaining game it must be said, for all that it was gutting to let them back at the end. I was expecting it to be a pretty dour start to the season when I was walking to the RoF.
Question: Who was the GC player that Culina was getting stuck into after his goal? He was really letting fly at him. Anyone else see it?

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tigers wrote:

true, if he had stayed on we could have played it long and have him hold it up for Greenie etc

easy to see these things in hindsight

I'm no great medium (I'm more a XXXL) or football tactition but I saw it coming when the change was made.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Sh*t, have we ever not won after shirts off in the last ten??

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Hard News wrote:

But MacAllister gave us an outlet and on a number of occassions he was key in defence making headers with his height.The moment we lost that we dropped further and further back.

Fair point, definitely proven true in hindsight.

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Horus wrote:

AllWhitebelievr wrote:

Robbed!!! It was ours for the win but that last header goal by Culina was a kick in the gut for a bad day for the defence.

It was a fun game to watch however.

Are you serious? robbed? gold coast should have had 6 or 7. nix were outplayed and were extremely dissapointing at the back.

agree...so lucky not to concede more goals.....and it got worse when Ricky made the 1st sub.....did we need to make a change at that stage, [ NO ] but then he did not know Leo was going to give them goal.... just whacked up the park next time Leo.......not a bad start but 3 points should have been ours.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

i have a question. on nights like tonight when we lose the toss (I assume) and play towards YF in first half, why don't the YF move en masse to the other end at half time so as to provide support? not allowed to? just seems silly in a half empty stadium not to move.

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valeo wrote:

I'm not sure where you got the experience thing from because I never said that. (and if I did it would've been referring to Daniel and Hearfield coming on before Toto)

This was how I interpreted what you said

"Ricki obviously thought the same because before the game he said Toto would definitely get game time - obviously the weather and the pitch called for players who we knew could play in those conditions (experience). I thought Pavlova should've been on the bench instead of Toto because his style of play would've suited the game more (style)."

Either I've read this wrong or you've just said that Toto doesn't have the experience for those condition and the kid you would have played would have plus a better style.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but thats how I read it.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Hey, we're third equal aren't we?

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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Oi Oi Edgecumbe wrote:

Sh*t, have we ever not won after shirts off in the last ten??

Yeah, we conceded loads late on last year. NQF and Melb come to mind.

Three for me, and two for them.

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simon_hampton wrote:

Anyone got highlights?

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

BTW, YF was in dam fine voice tonight -lots of noise throughout the match.

Aisle 24 is a tad quieter than 23 but still not too bad.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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Hard News wrote:

tigers wrote:

true, if he had stayed on we could have played it long and have him hold it up for Greenie etc

easy to see these things in hindsight

I'm no great medium (I'm more a XXXL) or football tactition but I saw it coming when the change was made.

same.(but one X less, I hope) was nervous when changes made, but thank god, I am not the coach. (sack ricki?) a really hard match to judge. key was that I thought no one lacked commitment, and some were willing to try some lovely trickery (iffill, bertos)- and whether or not it came off, showed good intent. siggy did look exposed a couple of times, but did not give up, and again, hard to decide in the puddles. Maybe should not have lost when 3-1 up, but arguably, should never have been 3-1 up.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

sigh

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Sorry guys but bringing hearfield on was f**king stupid.Why is he even on the bench or in the squad for that matter.He can't even pass the ball 10 metres he is so crap.Anyway enough of that, why change your backline when they are doing fine.Definately poor decision from Ricky.One more point, if your knocking long balls all day because of the conditions why take of the best player today as he held up everything aka Big D.
f**king disappointing, 2 points lost for sure!!!!

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

valeo wrote:

How did Hearfield coming on cost us the 3 points? Did he score 2 own goals?

Need to see a replay of the last goal again but he definitely wasn't at fault for the 2nd

It changed the formation, and the mentality of the team, and Porter got behind him alot more than he did Manny. I never said he was at fault for both goals, but the effects of the substituion had is what cost us.

On a positive note, I thought the Greenacre / Macallister partnership up front looked very promising.

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