Phoenix Ownership - Rob says FTFFA

Haha bingo. And always look on the bright side of life about 5 times, celebrating as if we scored a goal etc.

Great time.

Here's the 2014-15 attendance stats from Ultimate A League:

A few points about this:

• we might be 9th best on average but we're closer to 7th than we are to 10th
• we are also closer to Adelaide in 3rd than Adelaide are to Sydney in 2nd
• we had the 7th best highest attendance
• we had the 5th best lowest attendance

Forgetting everything about how we don't have a derby or get many travelling fans, or how we do well per capita, our croud numbers last year weren't even that bad relative to the other numbers in the league. 

If the Phoenix played in the Serie B in Italy, Ligue 2 in France, or the Spanish Segunda division we would have a higher than average attendance. We (The Nix, not just the A League) have also got a better average attendance than the ITM cup, and the top football divisions in the following countries: Norway, Austria, South Korea, South Africa, Denmark, Greece, Israel, Chile, Peru, Uruguay, and Paraguay. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attendance_f...)

Basically what I'm saying is, given football's status as a minority sport in this part of the world, and the fact that the A League is far from the top level of professional football globally...

OUR CROWD NUMBERS AREN'T EVEN BAD!!!!!

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1510/S00488/minis...

Interestinly enough, No other club had there lowest croud of the year when playing the Nix. 

If everyone of those Lowest attendances were against WLG then there would be a point. Central Coast figures 3 times.

From the Nix twitter account, while to us it seems like they are bad and we have the odd 6k croud, we are actually doing ok. It is the croud in a 35k stadium that does kill us (I know, been argued to death about the stadium). Crouds across the league are actually falling

Members grew 17% last year to highest ever & our av attendance has grown 27% last 3 seasons A-League gone back 1%. https://t.co/bXoOPgPhZ2

— Wellington Phoenix (@WgtnPhoenixFC) October 28, 2015

Wow, that tweet from the Phoenix, some pretty damning stats there for Gallop's "argument".

Is Gallop actually Midfielder in disguise?

#metrics

Yeah, this was posted by ConanTroutman in another thread

In fact, our average attendance has actually increased each year over the past 3 seasons:

2012-13 - 6,877

2013-14 - 8,186

2014-15 - 8,689

So we are going up while TV numbers and apparently attendance across the league are going down. Of course this is all the Nix fault according to the FFA.

The judging stick for crouds are when we play the Victory and Sydney City here.

Metric easily influenced: club memberships

Remember when FIFA U20 sold tickets - to every registered football player in NZF, using the NZF database?

That needs to happen again - right now. I believe it would see a surge in memberships.

My federation and my club , or NZF, have yet to send me an email saying "the Phoenix need your support now - no matter where you may live. A non-ticket adult club membership is $50 + transaction fee, child $35 etc.. click this link and do it today.

Help save the Nix - buy a Phoenix club membership today

This is a Metric that will have Melbourne Victory and Melbourne City come out swinging - SMFC a club I believe to have been turned down twice for an A-League position.  THEY WILL COME AGAIN

October 28, 2015

South Melbourne FC is very proud and pleased to announce that from 2016 it will be joined by all South Melbourne Women’s FC (SMWFC) teams. The result will be a model super club comprised of top level men, women, boys’ and girls’ teams.

At its Annual General Meeting last night, SMWFC resolved to transfer all its women’s and girls’ teams to SMFC. To accommodate the joining of the SMWFC teams, SMFC will make the necessary amendments to its Constitution at its forthcoming AGM to ensure that the objectives of the club provide for the treatment of men, women, boys and girls equally.

The culmination of long term discussions between sub-committees of both clubs led by SMWFC’s President, Gabrielle Giuliano and SMFC Chairman, Nick Galatas, is the comprehensive SMFC One Club Policy (Click here to read PDF). This exciting initiative brings immeasurable benefits to all our new super club’s players but in particular, it represents an unprecedented advance for women’s and girls’ football in Victoria, if not the whole of Australia. All women’s and girls’ teams fielded by SMFC will receive the same benefits which the men and boys enjoy, including access to the existing Youth Program and sharing methodologies, coaching and playing resources.

The One Club Policy means that all SMWFC teams will form part of SMFC with the Senior SMWFC women’s team becoming SMFC’s flagship female football team. It will continue to play on Lakeside Stadium and benefit from the same resources enjoyed by our senior men’s team including increased media exposure through the club’s marketing and media team, SMFC TV, smfc.com.au, email broadcasts, Facebook and Twitter.

As part of implementing its new Policy, SMFC has welcomed SMWFC President, Gabrielle Giuliano, to its Board of Directors. Gabrielle brings to the SMFC Board a wealth of experience and knowledge in the football and corporate spheres as well as valuable experience within and insights into the women’s game.

Gabrielle is the daughter of John Margaritis, who played for South Melbourne Hellas between 1961 and 1967, winning four League Championships. He also had four separate coaching stints at the Club between 1974 and 1986, winning the League Championship once and securing back-to-back Dockerty Cup triumphs as well.

With the current SMFC President, Leo Athanasakis, Chairman, Nick Galatas, and the Director, Bill Papastergiadis all having daughters playing in SMWFC teams, they have gained an intimate understanding of the operations of SMWFC which will aid the smooth transition into SMFC.

SMFC President, Leo Athanasakis, was excited at the news. He spoke exclusively to smfc.com.au.

“We are delighted to finally have the South Women’s Football teams back together, as one, with the South Melbourne Football Club. It makes complete sense for all teams to be playing under SMFC.”

“We will work hard to ensure that the Senior Women become an NPL powerhouse and hopefully one day also feature in the W-League.”

“We have some exciting, modern and innovative ideas that we are looking to bring in for 2016. We will start working on these straight away in order to ensure we are able to implement them as soon as possible.”

For all media enquires, please email the club at multimedia@smfc.com.au.

So why not just add two clubs - One Sydney and one Melbourne and expand the league. why kill a club that is doing ok. Shark, bring back the fury and Gold Coast too.  I do acknowledge some clubs are in financial trouble, perhaps the extra teams might create some interest. i think some fans maybe getting bored with playing clubs 3 times per season and the finals playoff thing which i have always disliked. Should be top 4 teams, home & away semis and then grandfinal.

Phoenix making a statement with facts that shoot Gallop down. No rash statements or throwing toys out of the cot, fighting metric's with facts.

God I love this club

Does anyone have the sneaking suspicion that we might survive?  

It seems like Gallop and a handful of exceedingly dumb aussies are the only ones who doesn't want us?

2 Days ago I thought it was the end of days, now it seems the comp wants us.

Foursight

What sticks out to me about these other clubs coming out and supporting us is not only how they think it's unfair how we've been treated, but more that the FFA seems to have told the owners one thing, and are now going against that. For example Scott Barlow saying that they had been told that there were no new licenses being planned and now there's talk of a South Sydney team, or Sage saying that they had been told that the Nix would be around for at least the next 5 years (or that we had a guaranteed offer of 5 years). This has the potential to seriously damage the relationship between the owners and the FFA, why would the owners want to be part of a league where they are being lied to from the governing body? Why would the FFA want to get on the wrong side of the key stakeholders in their league

Because the current TV deal only covers ten teams, and with the ratings as they stand the next TV deal isn't going to be any better - probably worse.

Another Sydney team could add more Australian viewers and increase the overall value of the product for fox. Although seeing as its Sydney FC heartland I'm sure any gains will be less than hoped.

We should start collating a list of teams, fan groups, and also podcasts and blogs that support us - I know I've stopped listening to at least one podcast for not supporting us.

Nix licence can be given to Hobbiton FC in the Shire...

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/picture/2015/oct/...

LOL

Either way it sounds like he's been bullsharkting to the owners

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/sydney-fc-chairman-scott-barlow-slams-ffa-over-proposed-third-aleague-team-in-sydney-20151028-gkkw91.html#ixzz3pths0kX2

Yea that Phoenix City podcast is full of unsupportive dicks.

Is there any hope that the A-League owners could get together and decide Fudge the FFA and their shenanigans, we're going to have our own A-League? With blackjack, and hookers? In fact, forget the football?

A question for those that may know more than me:

Does a season member count as a club member? (i.e. include you in those stats) or is a premium member the only one that gets put in those stats?

Something I read earlier threw a little doubt in my mind.

Im a bit concerned that, if we do stay, we could end up with a travelling circus.

I guess it could be easier to sell more "memberships" if you play in 3 different locations 4 or 5 times each. It also gets the Nix away from the Westpac stadium problems more.

Its just that those "members" may not include some of the die hards like ourselves who see the Phoenix as a Wellington thing.  

I'm a Phoenix diehard who sees it as a Wellington thing, but if the price for still having a team is 2 games a year in AKL and 2 in CHCH or elsewhere, I frankly could see an upside. Hey Gallop, Auckland is a million+ market. Just sayin'.

If they bring all of the ASB teams into the A League then we could have like 20 NZ derbies.  That would make Gallop have a stroke with joy wouldn't it?
And then if they change the A League to the Australian League then every NZ team would have Australian written on their jerseys so he could jerk off to that fact.

Guys, can I ask, when the FFA say they're pumping 3m into the Nix, what specifically does it go to? What does it help with?

Wow staggered at the support we are getting especially from across the ditch. Does give you a warm feeling and some hope that all may not be lost. Bet Gallop is spewing at the support we are getting. I do really hope that people stick with us and we don't just become "todays fashionable  cause". Because if that happens this is just going to raise it's ugly head again.

One would guess it just goes to the pool of funds that pays for general team maintenance costs, flights, etc.

Isn't it 2.5 million and that's just our slice of the TV deal pie?

Yeah its the TV money + flights.

If that 2.5 million is such a big deal why doesn't NZF stump up that cash and NZF deal with NZ broadcasting rights?  Then if they pull off a 10m deal in a few years then that's 10m for NZ football.

If that 2.5m is just too much money then let NZ take the risk and reward in NZ.

I have purchased a membership, live in Auckland and always go to the game here. Asked a couple of my mates to join as well! Long live the Phoenix.

Gallop hit back, saying all the clubs had been told replacement teams might be required.

“We told all the A-League clubs at a recent strategy session that there are no plans for expansion, but clearly the option of a replacement licence would be necessary to meet our broadcast contract obligations of a 10-club competition,” he said.

“In that context, we briefed all the clubs on our prudent steps to explore new markets. This was clearly communicated, so SFC are missing the point today.”

These comments from Gallop are basically a big 'I don't care' to the club owners. The pressure they are putting on is not enough to save us.

Think this is a line in the sand issue now between the owners and the FFA.  Who actually runs the league?

That's just fked, The FFA really want this 3rd Sydney team.

The salary cap.

Just renewed my membership! Had a year off but the time to support is now even if i can't get to games.