Phoenix Ownership - Rob says FTFFA

Serious question for the Fever executive whom deep down I do respect.

Is there anything being planned or in the pipeline by the executive in response to the FFA decision that at a later date myself and others are able to get behind?

Gorman is no friend of ours, but the above article said:

"New Cronulla Sharks chief executive Lyall Gorman believes the club can own the next A-League franchise and says they could be ready for the 2017 season when the FFA is expected to expand the competition".

So I am not blaming him for trying to get ahead and get a franchise up and running. Penrith Panthers were trying to buy the Wanderers previously (and were knocked back by Gallop), so it is not necessarily a wrong model. 

I heard on the radio the other day that NRL is trying to get a league franchise up and running in Wellington (Wellington Cyclones) to which I say - if Celia Wade has any guts she would make sure it does not happen. Protect your existing clubs first. I am sure the Warriors are just as excited about it as Sydney FC is about the SS push for another Sydney A League club.

Whisper it... but noises around the place are suggesting to me that we could have a very decent sized croud at the next home game...

Regardless of whether we survive out of all this or not, our 'metrics' might get a healthy boost... I'm talking crouds, members and perhaps team performance (not that there's anything wrong with it at the moment of course).

I keep getting these thoughts that this could end up being the most amazing season, whether it be the last one or not.

Also does anyone know if/when that press release from nz first will come up during a parliamentary sitting?

That is a sleeper right now for me. If that thing gets any traction it could blow this wide open. 

If the Phoenix put on a good show and cement some of that new support it will be good. You know how it normally goes, big croud = flat display.

That's it.  A big croud on the 13th is important, getting them backl every week for the rest of the season more so.

Fever Fridays? Fun with flags above the bypass?

Cold morning tomorrow - scarf weather.

Full page ads in the papers the Friday before every home game. Personal appeals from Dura, Iffy, David Dome, freakin' Ricki, anyone. GO TO THE GAME AND #SAVETHENIX.

Er... can the Auckland Fever do anything to help at the R9 game, if it hasn't been sorted by then?

According to a NineMSN.com report, 6 of the other clubs have spoken out in favour of us; Brisbane, Jest and Tards are non-committal; no-one supports the FFA.

I can understand Brisbane and Jest not wanting to say anything while their balls are in FFA's hands, and fudge the Tards anyway. But kudos for CCM for speaking out for us when they're in trouble (you listening, Midfielder?)

While these stats are interesting I think the FFA see it as Nix = NZ, not just Wellington.

Just look at the forum here, ppl from AKL, Waikato, Hawkes Bay, CHC, Manauwatu, Otago, Naki etc

Should I reply to all the footballfamily emails telling them to get f*cked?

Yeah.  Newcastle aren't going to speak out against the FFA when they are running the side.

Do you have a link to that quote,  Id love to tweet it

Effigy burning - Gallop and the FFA Board

If no effigy make do with the real thing.

I unsubscribed. 

I would dearly love for the Federal Government to turn to the FFA and say "keep the Phoenix around or we won't keep giving you a pass on whatever shark you did with the World Cup bidding money we gave you.

Some of you disagreed with my view that the club should do its best under the circumstances and play on, and you were saying that it does not matter how the story is reported if Welnix walks instead.  Yet this is exactly the twisted reporting that appears already in the media by those who should know better (Phil Micallef in The World Game):

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/10/29/...

"Australia's premier club competition would be reduced to nine teams if Wellington Phoenix turn down an offer of a four-year licence at the end of the current season.  Phoenix's application for a 10-year licence was rejected by the governing body on the grounds of an unsatisfactory off-field performance by the club, raising fears they will walk away from the league at the end of the season. Reports have emerged that a third team from Sydney's southern suburbs will make up the weight should Phoenix cut their losses and call it a day."

So in short, this says that we would jump, not that we were pushed off the ledge, to make space.

Yep done that.  Also emailed back saying that FFA was not my football family.

May just go to spam.

F*ck em anyway.

I think he did a great job to get it started and last time I checked there were nearly 7000 signatures.  He deserves a big well done

was looking at the sbs world game facebook and alot of aussies against us. Not sure where they're getting their facts from but alot seem to be outing us as having an average attendance of 3000 and being financially unstable. They also dont seem to realise NZF are not the private consortium that run the nix. Its not a vocal minority believing these facts either, wish a club rep would come out and set some facts straight (twitter is a limited platform).

My family...

SBS say no more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASEAN_Super_League also could this be a stretch of an option if we were dumped? not sure how afc or the welnix would view it but its professional.

My views on this is that it is pointless looking at % of population as it is in no way relevant. Bottom line, the crouds have not been good enough. The issue is the general malaise with the general NZ public for attending sports events, whereas if all the planets are not aligned they are not going to attend. All I see on here are excuses - "evening games mean that I cannot take the kids", "the weather wasn't great", "Farmers had a 30% off sale". To me, none of these stack up. Let little Tarquin and Tabatha stay up past their usual bedtime and be a bit tired and grumpy at school on Monday morning, put a fudgeing coat on, and buy your fudgeing socks another time.

There seems to be a core of 6,000 who attend all the time. It grows to 8,000 if the time is perfect, the weather is good but it is down to the last 8 on NZ Idol. It gets to 10,000 when the other conditions are met and NZ Idol is finished. From a base of 6,000, that is not enough. As the outsider in the competition it is not a case of just not being the worst compared to other clubs, we have to be better to justify our existence. Unfair, but reality. The Wellington public has not stood up and supported the club enough, and now there is a real chance that they might not exist anymore. We can get angry with the FFA and Southern Sydney and Sky and Simon Cowell, but the fact that every week thousands of people in the city who play and love football couldn't get off their cods and get to games to support the club. That is a massive fudgeing shame.

I dunno.  30% of at Farmers is pretty tempting. Some class gear there.

BUY YOUR FUCKING SOCKS ANOTHER TIME!

Bloody hell.  I think we're cousins...

Bit cold to wear Jandals or bare feet to the game isn't it? 

people reading Aussie 442 forums? Lots of Nix support, lots of anti FFA sediment, bloody lots of threads.

No updates on the emails to Newcastle United nor West Ham United as of yet.

Problem is their attitude seems to be they want everyone on their core package, hence why the weekly & monthly packages seem overpriced, as is Neon at $20 p/m (Lightbox & Netflix are both $13). Also FanPass price for the Super 15 was in the range of $200-$300, when worked out that is only a very small saving on having Sky Proper + Sports (And you only got the rugby...why would anyone pay for that?)

It was indeed too cold for me in my Jandals on Saturday :P

Perhaps when they're a wee bit older, but for the lower aged children (aside from newborns which are kind of the same round the clock!) this sort of thing is an absolute no-go. I don't think I'd last the 2nd half with my 3 year old after 8pm at night that's for sure.

Not disputing your overall point though. 

I'm going to be trying to find some yellow and turning up, will start spreading the word among people I know. Even the 'knitting circle', gasp.

Ministers of Sport And Trade M.I.A. on Wellington Phoenix
Wednesday, 28 October 2015, 3:54 pm
Press Release: New Zealand First Party

28 OCTOBER 2015


Ministers of Sport And Trade M.I.A. on Wellington Phoenix


The Football Federation Australia’s (FFA) rejection of Wellington Phoenix’s 10-year licence is shameful treatment of the Wellington Phoenix, says Spokesperson for Trade Fletcher Tabuteau.

“New Zealand First is asking what the Minister of Sport and Recreation Jonathan Coleman and the Minister of Trade Tim Groser are doing about it.

“Our Australian cousins have delivered the Wellington Phoenix the football equivalent of an underarm delivery. Clearly, the Ministers need to act, starting with calls to their counterparts and the FFA for a ‘please explain’.

“It rams home the second-class treatment of Kiwis and Kiwi businesses. A major financial investment will be wrecked along with the emotional investment of fans.

“This now highlights the way 650,000 Kiwis living in Australia are treated and even banned from joining the Australian armed forces. The relationship we have with Australia is increasingly one-sided, despite all the platitudes of fraternal love and respect from the Prime Minister.

“There is a role for the government because the implications extend beyond sport and go towards CER, the New Zealand-Australia Closer Economic Relations Investment Protocol and the relationship we have with our biggest trading partner,” says Mr Tabuteau.

ENDS

While I appreciate NZ First support, I don't like the release and see it got some stick from people in Aussie. 

Write something supporting the Nix, you don't need to chuck in the underarm incident as that seems to be NZ goto whenever we feel we have been mistreated by the Aussie. Also don't use it to highlight a different issue with the kiwis wanting to be in the Australian Army, it just clouds the picture.