Phoenix to move to Auckland (maybe)

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

WTF??? Is there any truth in this and if so why?

Captain Andrew Durante was initially happy to talk about yesterday's report in The Dominion Post in which Wellington city councillor John Morrison claimed New Zealand Football was working behind the scenes to move the Phoenix to Auckland.

But Durante was then told by club officials to keep his mouth shut.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

After reading the draw for the A League last night. I note that there only 2 games to be confirmed (TBC), with all other games set down for Wellington.
So my question is, and the answer so I can understand it, just exactly when is the Phoenix supposed to be shifting to Auckland? (Smartarse answers will be ignored)
Sorry I just don't get this shifting stuff now!!! Somewhat confused!!!!???

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

The media ban initially made me more nervous. Then I realised it doesn't really mean anything,and we still don't know anything. So I got over it.

Allegedly

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I guess ultimately it's an issue for another season. Draw is out and they are based in Wellington.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

Sam - you must be an understudy to Burgess. Tacky "journalism" from you this morning.

Unfortunately really par for the course these days. Very glad I don't pay your wages - you don't do much to justify whatever you are on.

I agree with Junior. Shoddy journalism by a rubbish publication that seems to be getting worse over time.

Oh wait, I forgot. The worlds greatest rugby player Sonny Bill Williams is also the worlds greatest boxer. That's a good news story!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

rjmiller wrote:

WTF??? Is there any truth in this and if so why?

But Durante was then told by club officials to keep his mouth shut.

Seems fair enough to me. If I was the club I wouldn't be talking to the Dom Post right now either.

Even the way the story above has been worded shows why the Phoenix are right to be cautious. "Durante told by club officials to keep his mouth shut", oh the drama! How about this version instead:

Captain Andrew Durante was initially happy to talk about yesterday's report until he was reminded by club officials that the Dom Post is likely to mis-quote whatever he says, cut and paste his comments together with a few random quotes from the Yellow Fever website to ensure everybody gets taken out of context, and also publish it all alongside a two-year old photo of him looking disgusted.

If the Dom Post wants people to talk to them they should try doing some actual reporting instead of acting like a tabloid.

Just wait - I bet by the weekend they publish another "opinion" piece like this one complaining about their treatment by the club and promising to report on the Phoenix "without fear or favour". Yeah right.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I think the media ban on the players was a great idea. Why get the players involved in fuelling baseless speculation, it achieves nothing.

And anyway, that's what these forums are for!

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

goldienz wrote:

I think the media ban on the players was a great idea. Why get the players involved in fuelling baseless speculation, it achieves nothing.

And anyway, that's what these forums are for!

THIS!!!

By the way, if someone from the Hawkes Bay Today is reading...

I just stubbed my toe whilst putting out the washing. Looks like it might get infected. I think I might wait until its festering before going to a local hospital to get it looked at. We can then conjure up a story together about how the hospital system is "putting patient lives at risk" by being understaffed!

You interested? I'll pose for a rather emotional looking photo to make the story all the more believable...

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

A question. Do you think Burgess and/or the DoomPost bosses actually want the Nix out of Wellington?

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

No. Then they would have nothing to write about.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Given the fact that they just make up stories anyway would they actually require anything actually newsworthy to write about?

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Doloras wrote:

A question. Do you think Burgess and/or the DoomPost bosses actually want the Nix out of Wellington?

Of course not, then they wouldn't have something to complain about! (But brag about when it does well)

I'm an optimistic pessimist.

I'm positive things will go wrong.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Dictum of newspeople: If there is news, we will find one. If there isn't, we will make one up!

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

goldienz wrote:

I think the media ban on the players was a great idea. Why get the players involved in fuelling baseless speculation, it achieves nothing.

And anyway, that's what these forums are for!

Exactly, it stops the players accidentally giving the 'media' another angle to continue this non-story for another few days.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Yes, Minister wrote:
Sir Humphrey: Unfortunately, although the answer was indeed clear, simple, and straightforward, there is some difficulty in justifiably assigning to it the fourth of the epithets you applied to the statement, inasmuch as the precise correlation between the information you communicated and the facts, insofar as they can be determined and demonstrated, is such as to cause epistemological problems, of sufficient magnitude as to lay upon the logical and semantic resources of the English language a heavier burden than they can reasonably be expected to bear.Hacker: Epistemological ï¿½ what are you talking about?Sir Humphrey: You told a lie.Hacker: A lie?Sir Humphrey: A lie.Hacker: What do you mean, a lie?Sir Humphrey: I mean youï¿½ lied. Yes, I know this is a difficult concept to get across to a politician. Youï¿½ ah yes, you did not tell the truth.

C-Diddy2011-06-01 12:45:42

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Good editorial though for all those knockers of the Dom Post...

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

aitkenmike wrote:

goldienz wrote:

I think the media ban on the players was a great idea. Why get the players involved in fuelling baseless speculation, it achieves nothing.

And anyway, that's what these forums are for!

Exactly, it stops the players accidentally giving the 'media' another angle to continue this non-story for another few days.

Slapping a media ban on the players gives them another angle to continue the story. I really doubt the players know much about this and I generally don't like players being muzzled.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

It gives them one story. Rather than multiple players saying multiple things that can be taken out of context.

Allegedly

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Now theyve just recycled the same story, and gone "who else is rich", asked them if they wanted to take over the phoenix, then published the result.

This is getting stupid.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/5082806/Bob-Jones-rules-out-Phoenix-deal

Allegedly

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Getting?

There was one interesting quote in it though

"But if he [Terry] did run into big problems one would like to think we could step up to the plate," Mr Morrison said. "It's about making sure the Phoenix stays in Wellington, stays healthy and stays strong."

Is he suggesting the WCC would be prepared to take over the Phoenix?

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Imagine the angst!

Allegedly

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

How many days until "Peter Jackson rules out Phoenix deal"? "They released Toto and I don't want anything to do with a club that discriminates against hobbits..."

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Doloras wrote:

How many days until "Peter Jackson rules out Phoenix deal"? "They released Toto and I don't want anything to do with a club that discriminates against hobbits..."

Oh BRAVO! Well done!

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Tegal wrote:

Imagine the angst!

I've just been so busy.......from predictions to poetry and now sub-editing. I predict the following in the next few editions of the Dom;

"Messi in talks with Phoenix".
(Next day, "Messi says he knows nothing about upcoming Phoenix deal")

"Ferguson new manager as Herbert leaves Phoenix"
(Next day, "Herbert: Ya Wot?")

"Rockefeller to buy Phoenix"
(Next day, "Terry says: shut up")

"New keeper at Phoenix, Gordon Banks is signed"
(Next day, "Terry says: I've already told you once")

"Elvis seen delivering crosses to Paul Ifill"
(Next day, "Terry says: are you delusional?")

"We meant Elvis Costello"
(Next day, "Terry says: are you pissed? Fark off")

The above examples are just about as well-researched, inciteful, and on-the-mark as the utter dross seen this week in our local "newspaper". Do you reckon I'd get a job there? Anyone know what they pay like?

Nostalgia isnt what it used to be...........

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I'd buy that paper though- sounds entertaining!

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

martinb wrote:

I'd buy that paper though- sounds entertaining!

I'm getting into the swing of this now...............

"We don't know what we're doing!"
(next edition: "Reader Poll Confirms Yesterday's Headline")

Next year headline-
"Mr. Serepesos buys Dominion Post"
(Following edition: "We're off! The entire Dom Post operation relocating to Libya- "Time to look for new opportunities says Lord Terry"")

Should I send my CV? Mother Theresa is just typing it up for me...............

Nostalgia isnt what it used to be...........

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Napier Phoenix wrote:

Midfielder wrote:

Maybe the junro is a dickhead .... maybe its time someone had a word to the government to say what is this paper or bloke in particular (if he has a history of this) is doing and its not in the Cities or National interest for all this BS .... But again you don't fark around with success for a failed model..

Sorry but we don't live in Saudi, our press can do almost what they like without Government interference.

HHHHHHMMMMMMMM .... so NZ governments never talks to the local media... so the NZ government never said to the media lets all get behind the rugby world cup for the greater good of NZ ....

There is a difference between outright interference and a casual chat over cake and tea in the garden ....

Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Allegedly

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I don't think there's anything as blatant as actual Government interference, but you must remember that when it's a National-led government, the people who run the media and big business are from the same background, frequent the same clubs and restaurants etc. as the people in Government, and it would be very weird if they didn't have "little chats" about how they could help each other out.

And in a Labour-led government, the same goes for the creatives, the small businessmen, the academics, the professionals and the union leaders.
Doloras2011-06-01 14:35:40

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Grandadi wrote:

martinb wrote:

I'd buy that paper though- sounds entertaining!

I'm getting into the swing of this now..............."We don't know what we're doing!"(next edition: "Reader Poll Confirms Yesterday's Headline")Next year headline-"Mr. Serepesos buys Dominion Post"(Following edition: "We're off! The entire Dom Post operation relocating to Libya- "Time to look for new opportunities says Lord Terry"")Should I send my CV? Mother Theresa is just typing it up for me...............

Ahh.. i see what's going on.. how about this one

"WGA funds in the bank!"
(next edition: Mr Ali refuses to reveal which bank)

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

goldienz wrote:

Grandadi wrote:

martinb wrote:

I'd buy that paper though- sounds entertaining!

Ahh.. i see what's going on.. how about this one

"WGA funds in the bank!"
(next edition: Mr Ali refuses to reveal which bank)

Excellent

Nostalgia isnt what it used to be...........

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Or all funds have been passed onto FIFA and they will forward them on.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Doloras wrote:

And in a Labour-led government, the same goes for the creatives, the small businessmen, the academics, the professionals and the union leaders.

Sorry - what does Labour do for small businesses?

(Small businessmen might include Phil @ RYOS)

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

Doloras wrote:

And in a Labour-led government, the same goes for the creatives, the small businessmen, the academics, the professionals and the union leaders.

Sorry - what does Labour do for small businesses?

(Small businessmen might include Phil @ RYOS)

They improve staff morale by making you pay them more

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

in the 9 years Labour was in power small business thrived, since National have been around small business have been steadily going out of business. I'll accept some maybe due to earthquakes but the rest is predicable ebb and flow stuff, none of which national were abnle to deal with.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I blame the banks

Allegedly

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

John, Gordon, Joseph?

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I also blame national on terrys financial problems. They have f$&$Ed our immigration policies, reduced demand and wrecked the property marketAucklandPhoenix2011-06-01 20:06:42

Auckland will rise once more

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Doloras wrote:

And in a Labour-led government, the same with small businessmen

lolArsenal2011-06-01 20:47:28

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Midfielder wrote:

Napier Phoenix wrote:

Midfielder wrote:

Sorry but we don't live in Saudi, our press can do almost what they like without Government interference.

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HHHHHHMMMMMMMM .... so NZ governments never talks to the local media... so the NZ government never said to the media lets all get behind the rugby world cup for the greater good of NZ ....

ï¿½

There is a difference between outright interference and a casual chat over cake and tea in the garden ....

No, and there are sections of the media that are quite critical of the supposed economic benefits of hosting. We have a free (sometimes irresponsible, tabloid and lacking in integrity) press here.

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