Wellington Phoenix Men

Phoenix to play in Auckland, Christchurch

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Pre season yes, League games to stay where they are.
 
This is obviously a wind up, the club know which side of their bread is buttered.
 
Moving league games away from the season ticket holders would obviously result in some sort of backlash.
 
I wonder how many Aucklanders are coming down for the 2 day rock concerts starting with Ozzie, Alice Cooper, Kiss etc. oh yes, we don't attract big bands down here.
 
Having said that, any Aucklanders wishing to travel down here to watch the Nix are always very welcome and we will look after them in a friendly manner at the BB.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I totally agree Lonegunman, I'm not worried if they play a few pre-season games outside of wellington, but all competition games should be at the ring of fire.
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From Hamilton I feel a much bigger fan of Wellington Phoenix than any of the Auckland teams, but that's probably because of the initial enthusiasm of the Fever, and then the football played than any ingrained ill feeling towards those north of the Bombays. Wellington Phoenix should play ALL competition games (including pre-season cup) in Wellington, though I would be more than happy to travel to Auckland to see them play a pre-season match. The atmosphere in Wellington for the Sydney game we came to was fantastic, and would not be reproduced anywhere else without the Fever. The passion exuding from the zone was contagious, even my kids were chanting along (politely!) Keep it in Wellington, we'll come to you.
 
And Cosimo, I know you must be joking. We play at Putaruru each year (when they can get a team together). I think it's really nice of the farmer to lend you his paddock, but it's not really up to A-league standard. However, if we got the changing rooms fixed up at Weka Street...?
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I also think the physical layout of the Stadium helps the atmosphere. It keeps the sining reverberating around rather than being lost to the Heavens. empty or full, we can make it sound VERY noisey. Lonegunmen2008-02-25 11:34:38
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
someone should buy Tony  P a coffee so he can get  'un-jet-lagged' and scotch this 'rumour'
 
usually he's pretty quick to do so, which worries me that he hasn't so far
tigers2008-02-24 15:20:27
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Well if he reads this and has any sense he won't shift any Phoenix games out of Wellington. Fans are the life blood of any club if you don't listen to what they want and meet their demands then you're on the right track to turn the club into a disaster zone.

Three for me, and two for them.

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
To my mind you only move home games away from home for financial gain, a la NRL.  To do so at this point in history would be foolish as it will interupt the growth of the Wellington fan base, take away the home advantage of having YF in full force, and cheat season ticket holders and other home fans out of a home match. Part of building a club is building it's home base and it is far too early to be looking at travelling the team around.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think it is a much better idea to keep all the games in Wellington and win at home in front of a big crowd playing good football!! or one that sounds awesome...
 
why should the fantastic yellow fever be forced to travel to Auckland or Christchurch for a home game?
 
to be honest I'm considering that if I return to NZ it might have to be Wellington on account of going to a game or all of them in a season...
 
there just aren't the same facilities or feelings in the rest of the country yet...
 
it would be rude and I don't think it would do a thing to grow the brand, compared to winning well at home in front of the YF!!
 
thats mine as an Auck...though one in exile...
 


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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
if you want to get Aucks and Cantabs to the game cook up a domestic package with Airnz or the rail or someone...tickets and fares one and tickets fares and accom 2...and a retro ricki!!!
 
it sounds like a much better weekend out than a trip to bl**dy Albany or any of the other lame venues north of the bombays...


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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
And while I'm on my rant....
 
 
 
China???????????? tell me when Tony P?
 
I'm dying for the news...it was a rumour and then it went away...I have to go there for a mates wedding too...so...then I can pressure everyone here to go and order my Retro Ricki...got a mate here who already has one..but his missus got it for him'cos it said yellow fever...heh...
 
ok almost mastered the font size thing...


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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ridiculous suggestion.

Keep A-League games in Welli.

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I agree with what is being said here. I live in Christchurch and attended the pre-season game here , and the first and last games in Wellington. The atmosphere at the Wellington games was just amazing - it is like nothing I have ever experienced before. I don't think it would be fair to the 'locals' moving any game/s out of Wellington (also my wife would not understand how important it is for me to get up to Wellington for a game or three). Pre-season games are good to share occasionally but keep the team in Wellington for the regular seaon....
 
Long live the WELLINGTON Phoenix.....
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think this rumour has came out of the EPL wanting to play games abroad, maybe the FFA are wanting to copy their idea of playing games abroad, so the phoenix are trying to do similar but play around NZ instead of just wellington all the time.
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tigers wrote:
someone should buy Tony  P a coffee so he can get  'un-jet-lagged' and scotch this 'rumour'
 
usually he's pretty quick to do so, which worries me that he hasn't so far
 
Not A rumour. He was on the radio this morning.
 
I'm going to disagree with just about everyone. As we are likely to have 4 more home games next season I think it wont be a bad thing to have 1 game in Auckland. It could help expand our fan base. I know its the WELLINGTON Phoenix but come on, we all want the whole country to get behind our team and this will help. I for one will be happy to make the trip to Auckland and show the jffas how to support a team.
 
 

A dog with a bone :)

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I am passionate about seeing WELLINGTON Phoenix and look forward to every HOME game. I'd be really Feched off if the games went elsewhere. I sit with another two season ticket holders, we are all in agreement.KEEP THEM HERE! If anyone else wants to see them I suggest they have the road trip to us, not viky verky. If Adelaide, Sydney and Newcastle nutters can fly the ditch to get here, Jaffa's and Cantabs should be able to manage to get here too. Ask Hard News for some travel tips, he was a Kingz / Knights commuter for years.

So, another 3 votes for NO WAY away from the ROF !!!!!!
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

What would you say is the average age of the supporters? I know theres a lot of uni and college kids that pay for their own tickets and work at Foodtown on like 10 bucks an hour or something for 6 hours a week.  How the sh*t are we supposed to go support our lads all around the country when I have to save up for me freaking HOME season ticket - I hope the price of these will be reduced if there's less home games!

What a crock of sh*t!
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nightz wrote:
tigers wrote:
someone should buy Tony  P a coffee so he can get  'un-jet-lagged' and scotch this 'rumour'
 
usually he's pretty quick to do so, which worries me that he hasn't so far
 
Not A rumour. He was on the radio this morning.
 
I'm going to disagree with just about everyone. As we are likely to have 4 more home games next season I think it wont be a bad thing to have 1 game in Auckland. It could help expand our fan base. I know its the WELLINGTON Phoenix but come on, we all want the whole country to get behind our team and this will help. I for one will be happy to make the trip to Auckland and show the jffas how to support a team.
 
 
 
I'd be interested to hear what Tony said this morning, was the subject spoken about specifically?
 
"we all want the whole country to get behind our team" 
 
Why?  I think that if people are really interested in the Phoenix they will have made the effort already (like some non Wellingtonians on this forum). 
 
Here's my prediction; Take the team to Auckland or Christchurch and they win and the crowd will be saying how good the NZ Phoenix were, if they lose it'll all be about how bad Wellington are.... 
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
that's a very good point dlb, I hate how the media/public rips ppl to shreds when they don't win, it's crap
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i concur, I think moving even once game out of Wellintgton is a bad call - but I too herard Terry on the radio this morning sauying that as per the A-league's direction to spread the word the phoenix will be looking to play one home game at least away from Welly.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
this is a stupid idea and i hope one that has no merits. pre season games, fine, play them wherever to get the brand around. but keep the home games at HOME, wellington. a 'home' game in auckland or chch is a neutral venue.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

well, one game - held in Putaruru - wouldn't be too bad
I like tautologies because I like them.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I can understand the pre-season games going on the road (don't like it, but understand the reasons) but extending that to regular season games is idiotic.
 
Why would you want to turn a home game and the advantage that comes from that into what is effectively an away fixture?
 
No bad buzz to the fans outside Wgtn, but I doubt the atmosphere at the RoF can be replicated elsewhere, and that's all part of home game advantage.
 
Someone's havin' a laff...
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Monty Python's Flying Phoenix?
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If anyone has Tony P's email address, I suggest they send him a link to this topic.
 
Even one game out of the RoF makes them the NZ Phoenix.
 
Can you imagine Liverpool playing a home game in Bristol (just to expand their reach)?
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
tonyg wrote:
Not happy feel this could take away home advantage and cost valuable points. Pre-season no problem.
 
Spot on Bro.
 
The Jafa's screwed their chance.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It would be in the clubs best interests to stick to having league games at the stadium. I'm sure the crowd noise is worth an extra player on the pitch.
 
We're in the middle of the country and it's cheaper for fans to come to the middle than to travel from one end to the other.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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Once again, the NZFA allows itself to be manipulated to appease the JAFA's. I would like to know what Graham Seatter has to say. Greed could be the death knell for FOOTBALL, if we are not careful - give the Phoenix management time to get well and truly established before even contemplating taking the Phoenix circus on tour.

Maybe in about five years from now, after at least Christchurch has been awarded the next NZ franchise, and maybe Auckland, should the WELLINGTON Phoenix be allowed to travel [say on a round robin basis outside of the normal A-league timetable].

So much hard work has gone into establishing our 'new' presence in NZ, that for a couple of quid, we risk losing it all i.e. p....... off the Wellington true and loyaly supporters.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Protest anyone?

Or even better, if they do commit to a game somewhere else we could stage a semi-boycott. Turn up but all sit and not cheer for the whole of the opening game of the season, that would stick it up them.
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it would also be physically and emotionaly impossible!!
 
maybe 3 minutes silence after the whistle and then a loud and well-thought-out chant!
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
rastus wrote:

Once again, the NZFA allows itself to be manipulated to appease the JAFA's. I would like to know what Graham Seatter has to say. Greed could be the death knell for FOOTBALL, if we are not careful - give the Phoenix management time to get well and truly established before even contemplating taking the Phoenix circus on tour.

Maybe in about five years from now, after at least Christchurch has been awarded the next NZ franchise, and maybe Auckland, should the WELLINGTON Phoenix be allowed to travel [say on a round robin basis outside of the normal A-league timetable].

So much hard work has gone into establishing our 'new' presence in NZ, that for a couple of quid, we risk losing it all i.e. p....... off the Wellington true and loyaly supporters.
 
maybe i've mised something but not sure what role NZFA as played in this suggestion? anything out there suggesting they've used their 'licence-holding' status to influence  this or any other management decison???
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Protest anyone?

Or even better, if they do commit to a game somewhere else we could stage a semi-boycott. Turn up but all sit and not cheer for the whole of the opening game of the season, that would stick it up them.
 
Want to protest? just don't follow the team around the country, let the locals of whereevr they go stuff it up - I'll put money on the fact that Aucklanders wont show! Even better turn up to the ROF en masse and make the point we want the game at home!!!
 
NZ Football have nothing to do wit this decision from what i've seen, seems to be an FFA and Phoenix initiative to spread the work to the footballing unclean.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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theprof wrote:
Protest anyone?

Or even better, if they do commit to a game somewhere else we could stage a semi-boycott. Turn up but all sit and not cheer for the whole of the opening game of the season, that would stick it up them.
 
Want to protest? just don't follow the team around the country, let the locals of whereevr they go stuff it up - I'll put money on the fact that Aucklanders wont show! Even better turn up to the ROF en masse and make the point we want the game at home!!!
 
NZ Football have nothing to do wit this decision from what i've seen, seems to be an FFA and Phoenix initiative to spread the work to the footballing unclean.
 
The problem with that sort of protest is that it happens after the event and actually makes no difference, what is turning up at the stadium actually going to do to deter the club from playing matches on the road?
 
How about those who feel strongly enough delay buying their season tickets until this silly idea is withdrawn......
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How about those who feel strongly enough delay buying their season tickets until this silly idea is withdrawn......
 
A very interesting comment. It would deliver a real message for sure in a peaceful way but would Ticketec get it right afterwards? IE: Issuing the season tickets?
 
A good idea but I'd like to hear the clubs view first. This may of course be a load of bollocks.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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Wellington Phoenix is a Wellington club and its home and loyal fan base are in Wellington.  Therefore, Wellington is where the Phoenix should play all their home games.  The Phoenix have no obligation to Auckland.  Auckland had its chance over many years to adopt professional football and they failed dismally.  And let's not forget where Mr Seatter's heart and efforts were when the NZ Knights collapsed and urgent attempts were being made to launch a new NZ-based club in the A-League.  They were in Auckland!  They certainly weren't behind Wellington's (or any other) bid, and the lack of a level-playing field with respect to NZF was shamedly clear for all to see.  After many years of embarrassing failures in Auckland (with the Kingz and Knights), one would have rationally thought yet another attempt in that city would go the same way (while Mr Seatter (and NZF) may not have come to that obvious conclusion, letting his heart rule his head, potential investors obviously did).  It would be a great disservice to the loyal Wellington fans to move a single game away from the Ring of Fire.  Moreover, it would be a huge disavantage to Ricki and the team to have to play a home game 'away'. 
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Initially my thoughts were positive to 'spread' the message to other FOOTBALL lovers throughout the country, however after very little thought, that said it would be absolute madness to even consider for at least FIVE years, any more of these ridiculous suggestions of playing 'home' games away from the true lovers of FOOTBALL, and genuine supporters of the Phoenix. As someone has already said, imagine Liverpool playing its home game at Arsenal, or even worse Stamford Bridge! - the Harlem Globe Trotters took years to establish before they went on their sojurns around the country, and eventually the World [Get Real]
 
Given what Wellingtonians have achieved last season, and might I add at cost to each and every one of us, the very least that the NZFA can do is to stick their hands up, and support the true and loyal supporters of the Phoenix i.e. Yellow Fever.
 
I believe that Graham Seatter owes us big time, given that we have saved his and every elected hanger's on bacon at the NZFA - no wonder they are $845,000 in the red. One way or another whether it is the Ozzies or NZFA, profits will 'find' their way to the JAFA's, unless we control our own destiny here in Wellington.
 
To put things into perspective it has taken all season to get the NZ media to finally call the beautiful and ONLY ball sport to speak of i.e. FOOTBALL, instead of that uncultured americanism, soccer.
 
Walk before you can run springs to mind [yet again!]
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Don't forget, it is the "Wellington Phoenix" not the "New Zealand Phoenix" or even the "Travelling Road Circus Phoenix". If folks from around NZ want to see A-league football, either come to Wellington, or find your own team!!! I say that without wanting to exclude people of course, because we want people from all over NZ to support the Phoenix. But there are valid points being made here about the home support the Phoenix are already known for. It would also fly in the face of Big Rick and everyone saying they want to turn Phoenix home games into a tough place for opponents to come. Difficult if it's a travelling road show each week.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yes pao1908, we've taken a full season to get Robbie Slater to finally get it right and call us The Wellington Phoenix. We're on a roll and it would not want to spoil it.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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True. It's no different to Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide etc etc etc. It's a city/town identity each club has, and, correct me if I'm wrong, but we don't really want to be called 'New Zealand' again like the Knights were by the A-league commentators. It's very much a Wellington club, sporting Wellington colours.
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NO way would I ever support a name change from The Wellington Phoenix and I really hope we have players from all over, not just All Whites. It helps the players development if they experience different styles.Lonegunmen2008-02-25 18:35:09
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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