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Phoenix Transfer - speculation

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I think we should take the Knight approach.
 
I believe we should sign everyone and anyone is on free transfers....
 
Well thats what i do on FM. gives me an amazing squad to rotate each week
 
Scottishbhoy2009-07-09 18:21:42

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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TouchMe wrote:

HARD NEWS,

I hope we do seriously look at this player McGlinchey for a couple of reasons, one his a young talented winger, and outside of Bertos our flank players have hardly set the world on fire and two he is a kiwi, and our NZ national team needs another winger even more desperately.
 
He's worth a trial, he actually got first team football unlike this Miramar kids people are raving about for some unexplicable reason.
 
Agree. Well worth a look. And McGlinchey might blossom under Ricki's coaching.
 
Remember, Ricki did wonders for Smeltz who was on his way to English non-league oblivion. 
 
And let's face it, we need all the firepower we can muster this year. We gotta have a bunch of guys who can score goals.
 
IMO the Nix are looking dangerously lightweight up front with the new season only a month away, even though I'm trying hard to keep the faith.
scribbler2009-07-09 21:01:40
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ForteanTimes wrote:
james dean wrote:
Does anyone remember Ben Collett? 
 
Let's grow up a bit here, the guy is in NZ because he can't get a gig elsewhere (let's be honest, Miramar Rangers aren't everyone's idea of a step forward). 
 
There are literally hundreds and hundreds of these guys around, who have been released from the books of a big club.  Let's rememebr, they get paid about �300 - �400 a week, the entire academy budget is probably the same as one Rooney oer year, so there is plenty of incentive to keep these guys on the books.  Just because he was at Manchester United unfortunately doesn't make him a great player.
 
Why does everyone fizz their pants when they hear the name Man United?  Now if he came from the Crewe Alex academy



Oi! Don't knock Crewe's youth academy, Danny Murphy springs to mind and after googling it David Platt as well.

 Mind you it is a complete sh*tHole of a place. I remember leaving the train station once and near the tracks there was a group of people standing in a circle doing what looked like a ritual - think The Wicker Man. Never found out what that was about.

 

I definitely wasn't knocking the Crewe Youth academy, it's genius.  Dario Gradi (?) has produced loads of good players and they've kept the club alive through sell on fees.  That's what I'm meaning, I mention Crewe instead of United and everyone thinks I'm taking the p!

Normo's coming home

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Okay, I'm going to make this simple.

We have 18 players, say we have $500k under the budget left, we HAVE to sign two more players.

Should we sign:
a, A wide midfield player we have an abundance of for $100-$150k of that and then find two knock down strikers for a total of $350k, or
b, Spend the $500k on the two strikers we need to fill positions we are desperately short in.

Further points.
- Last time we signed a wide player involved with the Mariners we got Kwasnik.
- As for being a kiwi.  Won't he still be eligible for New Zealand if he's playing on the Central Coast ?  Won't Ricki be watching him play nearly every week in the A-League anyway ?

How's my driving? - Whine here

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We were in a similar situation last year with the season approaching fast and only really Smeltz up front (all due respect to Covs, Costa and Draper) and we panicked into buying Kwasnik and we struggled for goals all season.

Agree with HN we need to be focused on strengthening the strikers and not get diverted by every other player that pops onto the market. Use the money we have and the fast disappearing time to get what we need, some much needed fire power.
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Hard News wrote:
Okay, I'm going to make this simple.

We have 18 players, say we have $500k under the budget left, we HAVE to sign two more players.

Should we sign:
a, A wide midfield player we have an abundance of for $100-$150k of that and then find two knock down strikers for a total of $350k, or
b, Spend the $500k on the two strikers we need to fill positions we are desperately short in.

Further points.
- Last time we signed a wide player involved with the Mariners we got Kwasnik.
- As for being a kiwi.  Won't he still be eligible for New Zealand if he's playing on the Central Coast ?  Won't Ricki be watching him play nearly every week in the A-League anyway ?
 
Come on, mate, that's not fair. You're hitting us with hard logic and irrefutable facts. How do you expect this issue to grind on for a day or two longer with that attitude?
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How much would it cost for a half-decent striker? Say Greenacres/ Porter

Everton FC2009-07-09 22:18:35
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Everton FC wrote:

How much would it cost for a half-decent striker? Say Greenacres/ Porter

 
If as HN speculates we might have $500,000 for 2 strikers....thats $250,000 each....which is just over 100,000 pounds or about 110,000 euros
 
There in lies the problem.....100,000 euros per season is not a lot of money for a striker. Especially in Europe....you would have to sift through a lot of the old and infirmed to find someone good. it is not impossible...but it would take a lot of work and a good slice of luck. Thats why we should give the club some space and time.....they are being thorough, they are taking their time. Its too important to rush into. We have been caught out before, they are doing the right thing.
 
Remember in our short history we have already tried and ditched a heap of attacking players.......G**, Brownlie, pie-man, George, Coveny, kwasnik, felipe, Draper
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StopOut wrote:
Hard News wrote:
Okay, I'm going to make this simple.

We have 18 players, say we have $500k under the budget left, we HAVE to sign two more players.

Should we sign:
a, A wide midfield player we have an abundance of for $100-$150k of that and then find two knock down strikers for a total of $350k, or
b, Spend the $500k on the two strikers we need to fill positions we are desperately short in.

Further points.
- Last time we signed a wide player involved with the Mariners we got Kwasnik.
- As for being a kiwi.  Won't he still be eligible for New Zealand if he's playing on the Central Coast ?  Won't Ricki be watching him play nearly every week in the A-League anyway ?
 
Come on, mate, that's not fair. You're hitting us with hard logic and irrefutable facts. How do you expect this issue to grind on for a day or two longer with that attitude?
 
 
Regardless of whether the figures quoted are accurate or not the fact still remains that we are desparately short on firepower up front so until someone can point us in the direction of some  backs or midfielders who can score 15+ goals a year then track back and keep 27 clean sheets I will only be coming to the conclusion that 2 new strikers are a must have!  

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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BRING BACK GEORGE.

I was twittering with him earlier and he reckons he will do it for $250k, since we're in a bit of trouble.

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Arsenal wrote:
BRING BACK GEORGE.

I was twittering with him earlier and he reckons he will do it for $250k, since we're in a bit of trouble.
 
 
Sure it wasn't Felipe or was he the one that asked for 17 Brides, his own personal Oil Well and a Camel?

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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Ive got a poster on my wall and first thing i saw today was george maybe its a sign.
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Ricki himself said after the Canty natch that the service to the strikers was poor. Would it matter if we signed a gun striker given we still can't get the ball to them?
I still want a gun midfielder before anything. I don't trust relying on Diego.
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I do agree with you. It seems like he has the ability but isn't a consistent player. I'd like to see some pace added to our attacking midfield and someone who will run at defenders every once in a while.

Maybe one of the two strikers to be signed should be a creator/ offensive midfielder? It would be hard but could be handy in the chance when Diego falls over.

Just an attacker with a bit of pace and creativity for me, and who has the ability to move back into the Mids.
And yes I'd like fries with that too.


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Like I said when we signed him, Diego has only ever fired consistantly in the ACL. He has never, ever put a string of good performances together in the league - even in a good Adelaide team. He actually played a lot of his good football in a more reserved role, too, so to expect him to be the creative force behind our team this season is just silly.

a.haak

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valeo wrote:
Like I said when we signed him, Diego has only ever fired consistantly in the ACL. He has never, ever put a string of good performances together in the league - even in a good Adelaide team. He actually played a lot of his good football in a more reserved role, too, so to expect him to be the creative force behind our team this season is just silly.
 
Yeah, I also have reservations about Diego. I remember being quite surprised how ordinary he was and how disinterested he looked. But he was good in the ACL, so I'm hoping that with the reasonable certainty of consistently being in the starting lineup he'll help us to get some good service to the strikers. Be a great bonus if he and Daniel clicked too, as Daniel did with Felipe. I wanna see some fun and games there in the midfield this year.
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The word I heard was in recent seasons Diego's had serious sinus problems, which impacted on his performances.He's recently had surgery so hopefully a bit more puff this season will make the difference.

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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Hard News wrote:
Okay, I'm going to make this simple.

We have 18 players, say we have $500k under the budget left, we HAVE to sign two more players.

Should we sign:
a, A wide midfield player we have an abundance of for $100-$150k of that and then find two knock down strikers for a total of $350k, or
b, Spend the $500k on the two strikers we need to fill positions we are desperately short in.

Further points.
- Last time we signed a wide player involved with the Mariners we got Kwasnik.
- As for being a kiwi.  Won't he still be eligible for New Zealand if he's playing on the Central Coast ?  Won't Ricki be watching him play nearly every week in the A-League anyway ?
 
I'll play the game.....2 strikers plse.  One to cover for Greenacre if and when he gets injured and one more so we have 2 upfront.  Goals win games..we start off at 0-0 every game and a point in the bag unless we concede..we get 3 points if we score as well.. and if we concede we get 3 points if we score more than the other team..so its all about goals goals goals.
 
Last season showed we need 2 strikers who can score with a contribution from mid and the odd headed corner.

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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Sign Roy Khrisna then that will leave more money to entice someone from euroupe etc, roy as back up give him a season off the bench to prove himself at that level might all be surprized or not!
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Roy's trialled for and been rejected by 2 A-league clubs. Nuff said.
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Boro4eva wrote:
Hard News wrote:
Okay, I'm going to make this simple.

We have 18 players, say we have $500k under the budget left, we HAVE to sign two more players.

Should we sign:
a, A wide midfield player we have an abundance of for $100-$150k of that and then find two knock down strikers for a total of $350k, or
b, Spend the $500k on the two strikers we need to fill positions we are desperately short in.

Further points.
- Last time we signed a wide player involved with the Mariners we got Kwasnik.
- As for being a kiwi.  Won't he still be eligible for New Zealand if he's playing on the Central Coast ?  Won't Ricki be watching him play nearly every week in the A-League anyway ?
 
I'll play the game.....2 strikers plse.  One to cover for Greenacre if and when he gets injured and one more so we have 2 upfront.  Goals win games..we start off at 0-0 every game and a point in the bag unless we concede..we get 3 points if we score as well.. and if we concede we get 3 points if we score more than the other team..so its all about goals goals goals.
 
Last season showed we need 2 strikers who can score with a contribution from mid and the odd headed corner.
So goals win games? Of course. Silly me. I'd forgotten that!
 
So we want people who can put the ball in the - opposition - net?
 
Bugger, we're a bit light on people who can do that.
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How about Caniggia? He's South American and Ricki did mention they have a South American as one of their targets. And he's quoted as saying he would like to move to Australia. Pretty old and would be expensive but if he's still got it.... BOOM Wibblebutt2009-07-10 10:51:25



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In all honestly, I don't mind that McGlinchey may look like he's going to CCM because it means that it's another kiwi on Ricki's radar in the A-League. I don't know if he is the right fit for the Nixs but he should be in the running for the All Whites national team.

As for Caniggia, I doubt that we could get him and do I have to remind you of the impact that Romario had a few seasons back. I don't know if he is more for publicity or able to last for a season. But Caniggia is right about himself that it is a matter of fitness more that anything else so good luck to him cause he will be marked physically in A-League and so would affect the team flow if he doesn't have good supporting players in the right position.
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Wibblebutt wrote:
How about Caniggia? He's South American and Ricki did mention they have a South American as one of their targets. And he's quoted as saying he would like to move to Australia. Pretty old and would be expensive but if he's still got it.... BOOM
 
Reports just coming in say that the man on the moon is available for transfer .... and he's only some millennia years old.
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axmfc wrote:
Wibblebutt wrote:
How about Caniggia? He's South American and Ricki did mention they have a South American as one of their targets. And he's quoted as saying he would like to move to Australia. Pretty old and would be expensive but if he's still got it.... BOOM
 
Reports just coming in say that the man on the moon is available for transfer .... and he's only some millennia years old.
 
Has he been released by the Galacticos?
 
Apparently he's light years ahead of anyone!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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PERTH Glory are on the verge of pulling off another major signing after target Chris Coyne had his Colchester United contract terminated today by mutual consent.
 
 
Can we steal him?
 
I don't know anything about him. he a defender?

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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Scottishbhoy wrote:
PERTH Glory are on the verge of pulling off another major signing after target Chris Coyne had his Colchester United contract terminated today by mutual consent.
 
 
Can we steal him?
 
I don't know anything about him. he a defender?
 
The Phoenix would have more chance of signing the man on the moon Scottishbhoy. 
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What about this guy???
 
(the one on the right hand side)
 
C-Diddy2009-07-10 13:37:40

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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Whats Royce Brownlie up to these days.. if only he scored in that first match

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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C-Diddy wrote:
What about this guy???
 
(the one on the right hand side)
 
 
He looks like a handy player. Something familiar about him but I can't put my finger on it
Jag2009-07-10 13:41:18

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Jag wrote:
C-Diddy wrote:
What about this guy???
 
(the one on the right hand side)
 
 
He looks like a handy player. Something familiar about him but I can't put my finger on it
 
And he has Management Experience. Would be able to lend Ricki and Co a massive hand at training!
 

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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Could be a good buy, add a bit of punch in midfield.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Is he the man on the moon?
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axmfc wrote:
Is he the man on the moon?
 
You mean Neil ARMstrong?
C-Diddy2009-07-10 13:58:05

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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I might be going out on a limb here, but I think he'd be a great buy

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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And he probably wouldn't cost an arm and a leg

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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Only problem is he's a bit greedy, stays on the ball too long, tries to take on the whole team single-handed Jag2009-07-10 14:06:49

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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I think a few people need to get a grip here and trust that Ricki and co have a good handle on the situation. Besides we don't want to twist his arm and force managements hand around any potential signings especial given Porter was within our grasp only to be snatched away in an underhand manner. 
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