Phoenix Transfer - speculation

True. Looking forward to your posts over the next few days! Will be analysing closely....

Well we should check player databases for any players with the last name containing the words dropping, hints or smug. Or any variations or puns from these words too.. hahaha

any idea of which country the fella who doesn't need a trial is from? narrow it done a bit?

lol
I think management should be setting their sights even higher?

Greenacre seems like the type of striker to score off scraps. Why would we need another striker who is similar?

Going back to the Potty video - did everyone see the bit towards the end when he was taking penalties with an empty net? He didn't miss once. He's awesome, we have to sign him!!!

that's what I was thinking too.... wonder if they had to cut any out I'm sure he was in dress shoes too, super styley...

Mmmm. . . . Potty is an interesting player. He seems to pull his best at the 30 minute mark and occasionally does more than just the one goal in certain matches.

Nice finishes with an variety of positions, quite good with his head and can twist and turns and deliver some decent balls (hopefully to Greenacre). It would depends how many times he can do that in a game.

Also, he has received quite a number of quality ball service for those goals, with a decent first and second touch. Not sure our team in the midfield can deliver enough quality ball service in a game for him.

But the defenders he was against are smaller and lazier and tends to dive in quickly and not watch the ball. The defenders in the A-league would be much harder and physical with longer legs. I have no doubts that he would do OK or if not better against the Chinese Super league teams because their defenders tend to be quicker but not as physical and definitely not as tall.

So we need to see him muscle a few goals. Certainty calm under a bit of pressure and use his arm length well, but A-league defenders are much different. The real test for him will be how he handles in the CCM game in Dubbo.

Not sure but he does look very useful. He seems to be able to form a good attacking partnership with the other forward and they feed off each other. So how good is Greenacre in forming forward partnerships? A Dwright Yorke and Ian Wright forward combo type partnership would be very nice.

Mmmm . . . .will the CCm game be in the internet?

very true - are these all just opinions you've got after watching the vid or have you seen more of him?

I think he would be quite a good force with Greenacre - because he seems to be able to move the ball quite quickly and take on defenders and the take quick shots whenever he gets near goal.

yeah he doesn't seem to hesitate from that clip. sick of players taking one or 2 too many touches. SO FRUSTRATING..

Yip agreed. Its very unlikely that it will be a big name signing. It will be good to see another striker signed though. esp if he is greenacre quality or better.

On a side, Greenacre looked quite good on the news tonight. I'm just scared we aint gonna get any service to these guys...

Yeah....totally agree.

I think Bertos will be the main source of balls into the box this year, so obviously aerial ability is one of the key elements to any strikers we sign. I just hope we have a plan "B" because if its obvious to us how we play, it would be pretty simple for the opposition to figure out how to close us down and cut of all the quality ball.

Plan B = Daniel / Diego / Ferrante

Plan C - Rojas

Any young kiwi strikers out there who could become a third striker? Whats Mikeal Breditivh or what ever hes called up to?

 

 

Really liked the look of Potty in that video. 1.90 metres and 90kgs. Could be a good addition.  scribbler2009-07-16 12:35:19

Well I know a lot about the Brazilian leagues and the state leagues over there. As I have stated earlier, the quality of teams he was in in Brazil would be above A League quality in terms of technique but lack in physical presence. A third division Brazilian team would probably push the Phoenix pretty hard...He only made it into one recognised Brazilian team and that is Avai which is in no terms a perennial champion ( They just won 2-0 away from home today) but to have played in Serie B, and scored goals he has showed that he can do it against some impressive defensive teams....

i don't watch enough English football to be able to compare the Brazilian leagues to them....

Yeah fingers crossed alright!!

Opinion of the impression that the video gave me about him. He seems to have the right type of link pattern with Greenacre.

Again, it shows his best bits so it is hard to determine whether he is able to be consistent from game to game.

But as most people seem to be saying and it shows up with his combo with the other forward, he needs others to support him or he is not utilised effectively.

He is more a team striker that does finish well rather than an out and out striker, whereas Greenacre seems to mix it a bit and is a out and out box striker (can contest hard for scraps). Which means there are threats from anywhere in the attacking third when you have both of them playing and they should feed off each other. Something that Smeltz didn't have up front.

So the two games in China plus the CCM can the see if he is able to produce the goods from game to game and the CCM game should see if he handles physically stronger defenders. He can run very quick with his long legs and the video hides the fact he cover a distance quite well because he use his stride length rather than just the stride rate.

Imagine if someone helped to work on his running starts so he gets the initial acceleration with the stride rates increasing better, starting with smaller stride lengths to get his stride rate up before extending the stride length not the other way round. He could be quite deadly in the box then, making him an even better forward. Certainly, be one of the first skill set to look to improve him on. He looks that he could sprint even better, he has the right build and the legs to improve.

I just hope he is not lazy as some Brazilians tend to be because of the overreliance on skill but not on fitness and the physical or simply positioning. Not useful to be in the right position but the team don't work to give the ball to him and so it looks as tho he fades in and out of the game when the team don't make use of the player. So this is my worry tbh. Lots of Brazilians have the skill but not the hard work and effort. The best Brazilians are always the ones who have skill and the hard work. Thats what always separate the best to the rest in the Brazilians. Potty seems to have the skill and naturally has the physical strength but has he got the mental strength to do the hard work? That would be my question, because that is what can make him consistent from game to game and open more shooting opportunities for him.AllWhitebelievr2009-07-16 17:21:07

I was about to say everything that AWB said but he just beat me to it.

Been my major concern all along. Looking for strikers and no one to give them the ball. The Potty vid had guys in midfield threading the ball and also some great crosses. Hope Leo doesn't get injured at all this season

My impression was that he did have very good positioning (given the video is the best bits)

His size meant he was able to stand his ground or make space for himself.

I also like the way he pulled wide right and was able to stretch the space in the middle for his partner.

Hopefully, these things are part of his regular play. We shall soon see (or not if we cant get a video feed!)

I love highlight packages, they make you look so good!!

You guys are putting too much faith in a video that is at least 3 years old, and includes nothing from the last 3 years, which according to research shows he has only scored 3 times

He's 3 yrs older, maybe 5kg heaver... and even more bald!!! But here's hoping he can still make a mess of defences!

Not so much putting faith, as clutching at straws.

We keep looking for the positive, but someone always has to be the realist :(

I am still happy inside my Potty fun bubble :)

just read the 'in the nix' newsletter thing, noticed that Tony hasn't totally ruled out Astroklaus or Putter completely. Do you think there is a chance we may still sign one of these guys?

or helen clark