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Phoenix vs Sydney

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
timmymadden wrote:
Agent 47 wrote:
timmymadden wrote:

Good goal by Danning, he was well played in by Brosque. Smeltzy looked largely uninterested until the last 2 minutes. Hearfields sending off was a poor decision in my opinion, Brosque should have been red carded at the same time at least... Daniel looked average off the bench too.



What would you red card him for?
Was it not Brosque who caused the incident with Hearfield?


Then you give him a yellow for the tackle and a yellow for inciting a confrontation. Although to be fair, it was Hearfield looking for Brosque after he got up not Brosque looking for Hearfield.
No red there.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
valeo wrote:
Yes, but we were going along alright before Hearfield got sent off. If he had not got sent off ,we would not have lost imo.
 
Absolutely agree.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
valeo wrote:
C-Diddy wrote:
valeo wrote:
Yes, but we were going along alright before Hearfield got sent off. If he had not got sent off ,we would not have lost imo.
 
 
The Mythbusters would only be able to rate that myth as plausible but inconclusive!


Obviously it's not definite but that is my opinion.
 
hoenstly...we were not doing too much when we were attacking....we had the same amount of missed chances as sydney...i thought a draw would have been a fair result
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
TBH the Phoenix did SFA tonight knowing the desired outcome that was needed for us to push for a top 4 spot. There is no point blaming anyone for this loss as the team never pulled together and played as a team. You could tell in the first 15-20 minutes that they were looking a little sluggish and just didn't have that extra urgency in them but at the end of the day you have got to take the good and the bad in football..
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
You dumb c**ts blaming Hearfield for that loss are doing nothing more than proving you have the brains of 3 year olds, we loss because we couldn't finish, we lacked imagination, Sydney scored a good goal and we got some tough decisions. Not because Troy got sent off, grow the f**k up you stupid c**ts! f**k I can't wait for school to start again so you lot can get back to Mummy making your lunches and people wiping your ass for ya!

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
We lost that in the first twenty.  With a bunch of kids we needed to assert ourselves (like we did last time against Sydney) and they would have crumbled.  Instead we let them get more and more confidence so by the time of the sending off and Danning coming on the only results were a draw or them winning.


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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If....  If..... If....If Smeltz hadnt missed the open goal early...if the ref hadnt missed their early handball in the penalty area...if Gan had been penalised for pushing Smeltz in the box... If...

The reason we lost is...

It happens in football, we couldnt finish our chances and gave them some, and one too many in the end...




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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
jamesnz wrote:

I completely blame Hearfield for that. Sure it was a soft send off but it could have easily been avoided if he'd just taken the free kick instead of being a t**ser. Cost us a spot in the finals. w**ker.



f**k off mate..wake up..smell the roses..he was the only playing well..is smeltz could finish..differnt story..
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
C-Diddy wrote:
Donutta wrote:
I'm not usually one to do this, but I completely blame Heartfield for this loss. He didn't need to do what he did, he should have just walked away, and we wouldn't be a man down. After he was sent off Sydney ran us all over the pitch and just made us look like amateurs. Well, I guess there's only one game left worth watching (and I doubt we'll do well in that). Can't be bothered watching us play Melbourne as we've got no chance and our playoff chances are finished.

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Blaming Hearfield is like England blaming Beckham for losing to Argentina in 1998. Complete and utter crap! THE WHOLE TEAM LOST NOT JUST HEARFIELD!!!


No it's not. When you're playing the most important match of the season, you do not do something so utterly retarded as to give the other team a major advantage. All Heartfield needed to do was walk away, but instead he had to get all macho. You could see it on his face when the camera showed him off pitch that he knew he cost his team the game.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
bopman wrote:
You dumb c**ts blaming Hearfield for that loss are doing nothing more than proving you have the brains of 3 year olds, we loss because we couldn't finish, we lacked imagination, Sydney scored a good goal and we got some tough decisions. Not because Troy got sent off, grow the f**k up you stupid c**ts! f**k I can't wait for school to start again so you lot can get back to Mummy making your lunches and people wiping your ass for ya!


True or False
Hearfield being sent off was the major incident in the game (before the goal) which had an effect on how the rest of the game would be played by Wellington.

I have a day job thanks, Don't need your mummy.... again.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Rickie was quoted as saying we are getting 4 imports for next season.....bring it on. With Smeltz gone we need a clean out of our attacking players . Super leo would be the only one I would leave...hearfield in the squad probably. As has been pointed out we lack pace, creativity and vision. Get rid of the journeymen....we need some class.

Saying that this team has achieved close to its maximum. We have got by on guts and a never say die attitude. That will get you only so far....skill and class will get you into the top 4
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
bopman wrote:
You dumb c**ts blaming Hearfield for that loss are doing nothing more than proving you have the brains of 3 year olds, we loss because we couldn't finish, we lacked imagination, Sydney scored a good goal and we got some tough decisions. Not because Troy got sent off, grow the f**k up you stupid c**ts! f**k I can't wait for school to start again so you lot can get back to Mummy making your lunches and people wiping your ass for ya!
 
Don't be a t**ser. We couldn't finish and we played some very average football but you can't deny that Hearfield's sending off was uncalled for and showed complete inexperience. Brosque baited him and he took it. Stupid mistake which had massive consequences for the final result.
 
Doesn't mean I don't support the team and doesn't mean I won't be at the next game. It's just the truth of the matter, and a damn shame.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I know I won't be able to sleep tonight until I get this off my chest...

Alex Brosque is a whining, cheating little lady-boy and Troy Hearfield is his bitch.

That's better!



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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Kiwi Jambo wrote:
SiNZ wrote:
ballane wrote:
Sure hope we get some players with some football brains and some bloody passion because there arnt many among this lot who show either of those qualities.
 
Not too much passion though - that's already cost us tonight.


True we cant even head butt with conviction!!


Herbert should really campaign for a return to the pass back to the keeper rule it suits his ultra conservative style ,we needed some controlled urgency and got, well basically a Monday morning training run !!
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
veteran diamond wrote:
well said jose...we just arent good enough..no pace..no vision...and seemingly no plan...any reason why our young guys arent getting a run..no chance for draper all season in a team that cant score goals..as for dodd great stopper..damn shame he forgets who he is playing for when he passes..all in all a good solid season but we desperately need some players with a bit of spark to fire up the journeymen we possess specially with smeltz gone next year...as for the sending off well i think itll be a good learning experience for hearfield..


Good judgement comes from prior bad judgement.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
valeo wrote:
mayze88 wrote:
Agent 47 wrote:
martinb wrote:
they are talking up that crap from Brosque- it shows him moving into Hearfield and pushing him, hearfield pushing him back and Brosque going down looking for the free kick.


Dude that was a blatant cheap shot forearm to the head. Not cool regardless how you spin it. We are better than that and shouldn't lower our standards. Hearfield will be a marked man if not careful


not serious mate..brosque the w**ker obviously steps into him and hearfield just jumps out of the road..no blatant forearm..


There is no way you can justify that from Hearfield. I know you're his bum buddy but seriously.


its not a head but..he is a mate..i feel he was playing well, if brosque is sent off or carded straight after the tackle..nothing else happens..
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hearfield getting sent off was stupid and very very soft but it was not to blame for us losing

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Jose's Dog wrote:
paullt wrote:
I thought that ben Williams had a very poor game......seemend to completely ignore the fact that Flynn was blatantly handballing all game. Brosque(I never did like him was ) was bitching like a girl after the incident with hearfield even though he had managed to sucker hearfield in with the evntual sending off. i thought that lockhead and Mc Cain had very poor games today and to be honest I thought the game might peter out into a draw...alas not
neverthless rgardless of the result and my bitch about it the phoenix are my team and I will continue to take my seat with the yellowfever and hope that we can bring in a bit of fresh blood for next seasons campaign...PHOENIX PHOENIX
Shouldn't McFlynn have been booked for deliberate handball when he punched it into the goal?  If a defender had done that to save one we know what the outcome would be...


He was booked
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Agreed Bopman.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i think we have probably done as well as our aqbility will let us..that goes for both players and  coaching staff..will reserve judgement on the management until we see the results of their recruiting this summer although seeing both moss and smeltz head off is not a great look however unavoidable...did we miss siggy today..seems to me he is the dude to build the spine of the team around
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Ah well. I'm off to bed. Gutted. Bring on next week.

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Im staying off this thread for a few days.
Its making me extremely angry. (especially Michael)

Some people dont use their heads.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oh Mayze... doesn't Troy have a restraining order against you ?

f**king idiots, the pair of you.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
wellyphoenixfan wrote:
Hearfield will get a long ban I can see the Head-push and that incident in the box that brought Brosque down.

the incident in the first half was nothing..send off was soft..1 week is all..
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
mayze88 wrote:
valeo wrote:
mayze88 wrote:
Agent 47 wrote:
martinb wrote:
they are talking up that crap from Brosque- it shows him moving into Hearfield and pushing him, hearfield pushing him back and Brosque going down looking for the free kick.


Dude that was a blatant cheap shot forearm to the head. Not cool regardless how you spin it. We are better than that and shouldn't lower our standards. Hearfield will be a marked man if not careful


not serious mate..brosque the w**ker obviously steps into him and hearfield just jumps out of the road..no blatant forearm..


There is no way you can justify that from Hearfield. I know you're his bum buddy but seriously.


its not a head but..he is a mate..i feel he was playing well, if brosque is sent off or carded straight after the tackle..nothing else happens..


A headbutt is a headbutt whether it's a pussy one like tonight's or a full blooded flourish to the nut. Doesn't matter which one, the red card is the result. Dumb and immature
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
mayze88 wrote:
its not a head but..he is a mate..i feel he was playing well, if brosque is sent off or carded straight after the tackle..nothing else happens..


My god. The first post where you have actually made sense.
Had Williams gotten in there straight away and had the card out, the rest of the stuff may not have happened
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Donutta: Footballers macho? I've yet to come across a pro whose hypothalamus doesn't rule the roost, and as for a 21 year old pro...

A horror show on many levels, TH is only part of that equation, sadly.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The first incident should have been a penalty to us, Brosque at a corner deliberately drops a shoulder in to an attacking player

How's my driving? - Whine here

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Back to basics i say. We need some form of miracle over the next 2 weeks if we are any chance in making the semis.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Agent 47 wrote:
bopman wrote:
You dumb c**ts blaming Hearfield for that loss are doing nothing more than proving you have the brains of 3 year olds, we loss because we couldn't finish, we lacked imagination, Sydney scored a good goal and we got some tough decisions. Not because Troy got sent off, grow the f**k up you stupid c**ts! f**k I can't wait for school to start again so you lot can get back to Mummy making your lunches and people wiping your ass for ya!


True or False
Hearfield being sent off was the major incident in the game (before the goal) which had an effect on how the rest of the game would be played by Wellington.

I have a day job thanks, Don't need your mummy.... again.


It could be argued that Durante off at halftime changed the game, weakened our defense and midfield all at once I thought


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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Agent 47 wrote:
mayze88 wrote:
Agent 47 wrote:
martinb wrote:
they are talking up that crap from Brosque- it shows him moving into Hearfield and pushing him, hearfield pushing him back and Brosque going down looking for the free kick.


Dude that was a blatant cheap shot forearm to the head. Not cool regardless how you spin it. We are better than that and shouldn't lower our standards. Hearfield will be a marked man if not careful


not serious mate..brosque the w**ker obviously steps into him and hearfield just jumps out of the road..no blatant forearm..


Pull your tongue out of your mates ass already. Man up and admit what your friend did was foolish REGARDLESS of being goaded or not.

As for the forearm? Seriously, I bet you though Terry McFlynns goal was legit too right?


no forearm..bull u tongue out of smeltz and bertos u w**ker..
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
The first incident should have been a penalty to us, Brosque at a corner deliberately drops a shoulder in to an attacking player
Yeah though the replay looked bad. Brosque seemed to target Hearfield.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
hepatitis wrote:
Agent 47 wrote:

True or False
Hearfield being sent off was the major incident in the game (before the goal) which had an effect on how the rest of the game would be played by Wellington.

I have a day job thanks, Don't need your mummy.... again.


It could be argued that Durante off at halftime changed the game, weakened our defense and midfield all at once I thought


Fair point you have there Hepatitis. I can see where you are coming from.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
if you are gonna be sent off for a head butt why not make it a decent one....he should have smeared Brosques nose all over his smarmy face!!!!!!!!!!!!
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
disappointed with Bertos's dead balls. Corners and free kicks hitting the first man. i think that cost us dearly. Lochy was garbage. Hearfield was looking good before he got sent off. I dont agree that he should have been. Williams was an arse to us all night. What was that drop ball all about? Durante was prob our best before he came off.
Well thats my thoughts in a nutshell

Founder

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Donutta wrote:
C-Diddy wrote:
Donutta wrote:
I'm not usually one to do this, but I completely blame Heartfield for this loss. He didn't need to do what he did, he should have just walked away, and we wouldn't be a man down. After he was sent off Sydney ran us all over the pitch and just made us look like amateurs. Well, I guess there's only one game left worth watching (and I doubt we'll do well in that). Can't be bothered watching us play Melbourne as we've got no chance and our playoff chances are finished.

 

Blaming Hearfield is like England blaming Beckham for losing to Argentina in 1998. Complete and utter crap! THE WHOLE TEAM LOST NOT JUST HEARFIELD!!!


No it's not. When you're playing the most important match of the season, you do not do something so utterly retarded as to give the other team a major advantage. All Heartfield needed to do was walk away, but instead he had to get all macho. You could see it on his face when the camera showed him off pitch that he knew he cost his team the game.


we lost coz players cant cross and finish...troy was setting up every thing in the game..we lost as a team mate..wake up
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
zinidane wrote:
if you are gonna be sent off for a head butt why not make it a decent one....he should have smeared Brosques nose all over his smarmy face!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Coming from Zinidane, that's a fair call!
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Stefan wrote:
Im staying off this thread for a few days.
Its making me extremely angry. (especially Michael)

Some people dont use their heads.


No way was it a f**king headbutt Micheal

Stevie wonder Could see that
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
boz-monaut wrote:
Oh Mayze... doesn't Troy have a restraining order against you ?

f**king idiots, the pair of you.


mate how is newcastle going this yr

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