Council doesn't build stadiums in other countries - Phoenix should fund a stadium with sponsors in tow. They can rent it to the Lions, team wellington, the orcas, etc..
He might have fucked up but at least Muldoon had balls. You stagnate you die. He who dares wins. etc.
yeah right, welnix would never want to spend the millions required to build a new stadium! and even if the did, where would they put it?
Queenslander 3x a year.
Council doesn't build stadiums in other countries - Phoenix should fund a stadium with sponsors in tow. They can rent it to the Lions, team wellington, the orcas, etc..
He might have fucked up but at least Muldoon had balls. You stagnate you die. He who dares wins. etc.
a purpose built stadium would have meant I wouldnt have confused Cunningham with Gulley on Sunday viewing them from "200m" away...that or a visit to Spec savers.
A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen
A perfect site for a new Phoenix stadium would be the gravel pit on the corner of Munroe and Raffles Street. Land is currently land banked for iwi settlement.
Let me emphasise that a great stadium is a piece of garbage if it's in the wrong place. Exhibit A: NHS. The only place you could fit a new stadium in Wellington proper (i.e. not the Hutt or the Coast) would be Rugby League Park.
No the issue is the typical lack of vision and small time thinking systemic in NZ.
build two new ones, then let the punters vote
Council doesn't build stadiums in other countries - Phoenix should fund a stadium with sponsors in tow. They can rent it to the Lions, team wellington, the orcas, etc..
He might have fucked up but at least Muldoon had balls. You stagnate you die. He who dares wins. etc.
yeah right, welnix would never want to spend the millions required to build a new stadium! and even if the did, where would they put it?
Wasn't that hugely misreported?
I think it was a very tentative thought from the nix, they concluded it was unfeasible, so didn't go any further with it. Which only really strengthens the argument of those who say itd be nice but isn't really a feasible option, not yours.
We're still discussing this? We'd sooner see a zombie apocalypse guys ..
Build a 15k square stadium up on top of Mount Crawford - a stadium with a view! Parking might be a struggle but........ And you wouldn't want a Vinnie Lia stadium clearance kick.
Council doesn't build stadiums in other countries - Phoenix should fund a stadium with sponsors in tow. They can rent it to the Lions, team wellington, the orcas, etc..
He might have fucked up but at least Muldoon had balls. You stagnate you die. He who dares wins. etc.
yeah right, welnix would never want to spend the millions required to build a new stadium! and even if the did, where would they put it?
Queenslander 3x a year.
Let me emphasise that a great stadium is a piece of garbage if it's in the wrong place. Exhibit A: NHS. The only place you could fit a new stadium in Wellington proper (i.e. not the Hutt or the Coast) would be Rugby League Park.
Let me emphasise that a great stadium is a piece of garbage if it's in the wrong place. Exhibit A: NHS. The only place you could fit a new stadium in Wellington proper (i.e. not the Hutt or the Coast) would be Rugby League Park.
Interesting article on how to build atmosphere into stadia here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22110898
Personally I think RoF has a great atmosphere when full, but the problem is that it's just too big for 95% of the games played there (ABs tests are the exception). I know there's no chance we'll get a smaller stadium because it just costs far too much. But having a chat about it as a hypothetical is fine. If people have a problem with that they can just not come on this thread.
To go back to something I've said a few times in the past - atmosphere is largely why people go to live sports and the Nix undeniably have a better level of crowd engagement and therefore atmosphere than any other professional sports team in the country (except maybe the Breakers but they play indoor so not comparable). Also, the more people at the game = the better the atmosphere. So why not lower prices, bring more people in, get a better atmosphere, and bring more people in again. If ticket prices were halved and attendance doubled then we'd have an almost half-full stadium every game for the same income (I know that's overly simplistic to say half price leads to twice the crowd but just for arguments sake). Bigger crowds means more merchandise sales, greater bargaining with sponsors, and so on.
Also, instead of building a new stadium can we at least start with improving the service at our existing stadium. Let's improve the concourse, get decent food and beer available, drop parking prices, and generally make the whole stadium experience less of a sh*tfest?
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
Obviously don't know what the agreement the nix has with the Stadium and Council but Gold Coast United put a cap of 5,000 supporters because that was a magic number, go over that and you have to hire more security, provide transport, etc. So it was cheaper to sell less than 5000 tickets than more.
It would go along way if we replaced the Yellow seats with something that is not so obviously empty. I always thought that if I ever bothered going to the Sevens again I would go as a yellow seat, just to fit in.
No the issue is the typical lack of vision and small time thinking systemic in NZ.
The old innovation - pragmatic disconnect at work here.
Interesting that the Muldoon govt (mostly evil) initiated the Think Big projects - which turned out to be not particularly helpful due to drop in oil prices in the 1980s. However the basic premise was good (diversify the economy and build infrastucture).
why don't you build it then! *slams door and listens to Fall Out Boy in bedroom*
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
No the issue is the typical lack of vision and small time thinking systemic in NZ.
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
Obviously don't know what the agreement the nix has with the Stadium and Council but Gold Coast United put a cap of 5,000 supporters because that was a magic number, go over that and you have to hire more security, provide transport, etc. So it was cheaper to sell less than 5000 tickets than more.
It would go along way if we replaced the Yellow seats with something that is not so obviously empty. I always thought that if I ever bothered going to the Sevens again I would go as a yellow seat, just to fit in.
Fuck this stupid game
Obviously don't know what the agreement the nix has with the Stadium and Council but Gold Coast United put a cap of 5,000 supporters because that was a magic number, go over that and you have to hire more security, provide transport, etc. So it was cheaper to sell less than 5000 tickets than more.
It would go along way if we replaced the Yellow seats with something that is not so obviously empty. I always thought that if I ever bothered going to the Sevens again I would go as a yellow seat, just to fit in.
Why not just double the size of the seats at Westpac?
Not only do you get cool new comfy seats it drops the capacity from 35,000 to about 17,000, which is what everyone wants.
You won't get a Council financing a new stadium, not when they already own the biggest and brightest in town. The only way to get it done would be by private interests that would combine it with an hotel, events centre, conference centre, shopping mall etc to generate income 24/7 rather than just for a few times a year. What is likely to happen in that scenario though is that Westpac would then drop their rental prices and there would be a price war. Market forces at work I suppose but if you were an investor you'd have to be pretty confident you would win that battle. The only way you fill a Westpac is with the ABs, The Lions or Phoenix being really successful and attracting sell outs, the odd concert and cricket 20/20. Almost everything else can be accommodated quite nicely in a 15,000 or less size stadium. Reduced running costs, better atmosphere, make it rectangular and don't cater for cricket - perfect.
Why not just double the size of the seats at Westpac?
Not only do you get cool new comfy seats it drops the capacity from 35,000 to about 17,000, which is what everyone wants.
Why not just double the size of the seats at Westpac?
Not only do you get cool new comfy seats it drops the capacity from 35,000 to about 17,000, which is what everyone wants.
or just burn some of the aisles
"Yellow Fever are fantastic – I have to say that"
Well...people have said we should be more like the RBB...
OOOH! Brilliant new YF jape, when we play the Wanderers at home we all come wearing yellow and black FLARES (trousers, that is). ;)
On the subject of Flares.....I watched the PSG vs Olympic Marseille game last Sunday and there were some really cool parachute flares thrown......they floated gracefully onto the field under a little white parachute.
What was interesting was the reaction. Unlike this part of the world it was a non event. The world never ended, the sky did not fall, they did not interview the police chief on national TV afterwards, they did not have the mayor saying how terrible it was, they did not interview pointed headed academics who decried it as a sign of the end of western civilisation. No, some guy came on to the field with a bucket and took it away and the game continued.
I love Latin countries!!!!!!
Looks like the redevelopment has already started and some of the stages have already been completed according to the stadiums annual report (http://westpacstadium.co.nz/assets/Documents/WRST-AR13.pdf). Also have been reading elsewhere and the redevelopment is funded internally and no funding is coming from ratepayers!
Yesterday is history, today is a gift, tomorrow is mystery
Looks like the redevelopment has already started and some of the stages have already been completed according to the stadiums annual report (http://westpacstadium.co.nz/assets/Documents/WRST-AR13.pdf). Also have been reading elsewhere and the redevelopment is funded internally and no funding is coming from ratepayers!
Someone brings this up every fucking year. It aint gonna happen.
Thread closed.
IBTL
Why not build it on the water?
ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH
