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about 11 years ago · edited about 11 years ago · History

I am quite happy about that. Its a change I wanted to see anyway.

Edit: not the injury. Poor guy, but the football change.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 11 years ago

C-Diddy wrote:

Fever the Fever

Let Burns know its Pizza time again...

I see where I went wrong :-)

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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about 11 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Brain Spasm wrote:

I think its time we changes things up a bit to keep teams guessing. Fenton to left wing and Boyd to right wing with burns through the centre would certainly not be something any team would expect + would give us a chance to see what Fenton can do in his preferred position + using boxalls height from set pieces. Appiah and krishna to come off the bench and add even more explosiveness in the second half

Since when has Fenton ever been a left footed player? When has Ernie ever shown an inclination to play him forward other than maybe a 10 min burst. He gets forward as a winger now on the right hand side so whats the difference.

Stick with your name.

Inverted wingers?

This is the 21st century

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about 11 years ago

Will Siggie be in a Hannibal Lecter mask?

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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about 11 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Brain Spasm wrote:

I think its time we changes things up a bit to keep teams guessing. Fenton to left wing and Boyd to right wing with burns through the centre would certainly not be something any team would expect + would give us a chance to see what Fenton can do in his preferred position + using boxalls height from set pieces. Appiah and krishna to come off the bench and add even more explosiveness in the second half

Since when has Fenton ever been a left footed player? When has Ernie ever shown an inclination to play him forward other than maybe a 10 min burst. He gets forward as a winger now on the right hand side so whats the difference.

Stick with your name.

Is Krishna left footed?

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about 11 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

Will Siggie be in a Hannibal Lecter mask?

Ready-made -

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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about 11 years ago

I get that, but its not his preferred position.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 11 years ago

Nice to see some sensible management of Louis' head injury (am assuming thats what it was) after the incident and for this weekend too.   He's in the wars that boy...

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about 11 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

I am quite happy about that. Its a change I wanted to see anyway.

Edit: not the injury. Poor guy, but the football change.

Why is that? Boxall is good coming on for 20 mins every now and then, but he isn't a full-back. He doesn't get behind defences, and he is easily outpaced. Fenton is a big loss, which most people likely wont recognise until after the game.

a.haak

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about 11 years ago · edited about 11 years ago · History

valeo wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

I am quite happy about that. Its a change I wanted to see anyway.

Edit: not the injury. Poor guy, but the football change.

Why is that? Boxall is good coming on for 20 mins every now and then, but he isn't a full-back. He doesn't get behind defences, and he is easily outpaced. Fenton is a big loss, which most people likely wont recognise until after the game.

From last season:

Merrick said Boxall was the fastest in the squad over 20m

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/9575274/Michael-Boxall-to-replace-injured-Fenton-at-back

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about 11 years ago

Must....resist....

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 11 years ago

valeo wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

I am quite happy about that. Its a change I wanted to see anyway.

Edit: not the injury. Poor guy, but the football change.

Why is that? Boxall is good coming on for 20 mins every now and then, but he isn't a full-back. He doesn't get behind defences, and he is easily outpaced. Fenton is a big loss, which most people likely wont recognise until after the game.

I think Fenton struggles more with quicker players than Boxall has ever done. Boxall is deceptive because he never looks like he's at full pace.

Previously when Fenton has been out Manny has attacked on the left, so I assume that's what we'll see this week. Whether it's a loss depends more on our front players finishing their chances.

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about 11 years ago

Referee: Kris Griffiths-Jones

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about 11 years ago

Bullion wrote:

valeo wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

I am quite happy about that. Its a change I wanted to see anyway.

Edit: not the injury. Poor guy, but the football change.

Why is that? Boxall is good coming on for 20 mins every now and then, but he isn't a full-back. He doesn't get behind defences, and he is easily outpaced. Fenton is a big loss, which most people likely wont recognise until after the game.

From last season:

Merrick said Boxall was the fastest in the squad over 20m

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/9575274/Michael-Boxall-to-replace-injured-Fenton-at-back

Fastest in the team, likely strongest in the team, yet can't get a centre half spot over Sigmund and Durante. Boxall in my mind given time would make a better centre half than either of them. You all have a go at him when he has a poor game there (which he's had what 3 over 3 seasons?) yet for Durante and Sigmund to conced a league high 100 goals over the last two seasons gets next to no hate. Don't get it. He's younger too, so will last longer. They both get caught out for being poor in the air and too slow so...

Also heard Merrick has been quoted as saying he might add some bite to the midfield by replacing Rodriguez with lia, because of the way opposition teams are being a bit physical. Lia doesn't do anything except make the one bad challenge and give the ball away half a dozen times. If I was the opposition manager and knew that, I'd be telling my boys to get in there, I'd say it's a win if we get lia on. He's a weak point in the side and other teams know it.

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about 11 years ago

Djinksta wrote:
Lia doesn't do anything except make the one bad challenge and give the ball away half a dozen times. If I was the opposition manager and knew that, I'd be telling my boys to get in there, I'd say it's a win if we get lia on. He's a weak point in the side and other teams know it.


Have you got any stats to back this up? I suspect you'll find that most players give the ball away at least a half dozen times in a match, you just remember the times that Lia has done it more because you're looking out for them.

Also, he's got the same number of yellow cards (2) as Riera and Dura, and fewer  Yellow cards than Siggy, Fenton, Muscat, Rodriguez and Bonevacia. Yet is is Lia who is prone to making bad tackles?


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 11 years ago

think Lia has been a lot better this last season or so. Justifiably earning starts ahead of some of other other quality midfielders at times. 


Allegedly

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about 11 years ago

Designated Scapegoat

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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about 11 years ago

Stop trolling with yr "Scapegoat" shark....

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about 11 years ago

"Scapeshark" maybe??

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about 11 years ago

f.barisi wrote:

"Scapeshark" maybe??

 

Sharkgoat?

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 11 years ago
I'm not saying that he's the only one that's been guilty of giving the ball away. It's the fact he gives away in such dangerous areas which hurts us. Alright then so why should he be added in ahead of Rodriguez if he doesn't add that bite then? What does he add to the team???
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about 11 years ago
That is just not true. Riera has given the ball away in dangerous positions before, why does nobody attack him. Roly has done it, weemac has done it, A-rod has done it. Why add Lia, because Ernie sees something that you clearly do not, and if Ernie trusts him then you should as well.
Be obscure clearly
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about 11 years ago

EXALDEAR wrote:
That is just not true. Riera has given the ball away in dangerous positions before, why does nobody attack him. Roly has done it, weemac has done it, A-rod has done it. Why add Lia, because Ernie sees something that you clearly do not, and if Ernie trusts him then you should as well.

Because you would find that Lia does it on a regular basis. Yes he can pull out some great passes but when he screws up, he tends to really fudge up.



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about 11 years ago
There are ten other players on the field. If you are telling me that when the ball is given away, even at half way or in the front third, that none of those ten players can stop anything happening. Then you can blame Vince. However there are at least 5 players behind Vince, whose job is to make sure that if it happens nothing comes from it. Stop using him as a scapegoat, stop saying he should not be playing, stop saying that A-rod should be playing ahead of Vince. (Unless Lia purposefully kicks it in the back of our own net, in which case give him hell).
Be obscure clearly
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about 11 years ago

Enough of the Lia love. Not convinced Alex has played that badly he deserves to dropped to give Lia spot. The last game Lia played was a shocker that you would have to admit and Alex hasn't played that badly since coming in.


GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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about 11 years ago · edited about 11 years ago · History

Lia has been directly responsible for at least 2 goals this season.

Riera might give the ball away but without him we'd be stuffed. He covers for both centre backs and the amount of ground he covers is massive. How about we try vinnie instead of Albert then? What happened last season?

Thumped three to four times. Lia is a liability and none of you seem to understand that.

Also, why didn't Merricks make any subs in the melb City game? I totally didn't get that :/

All Rodriguez needs to do is get some confidence, he looked good against Melbourne I reckon. Much more composed on the ball, not afraid to dribble into space.

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about 11 years ago · edited about 11 years ago · History

I thought A-Rod played quite well last game, especially considering he hasn't had consistent game time. I thought he made a few stray passes, though, that could've cost goals (remember one bad backpass which resulted in a Siggy Spray)

I do think he has far more potential to become better than Lia does if he gets consistent game time, and at the moment I'd put A-Rod above Lia most of the time.

I don't think Lia is the cause of all ills, but I do think he's not good enough to be starting for us most games.

a.haak

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about 11 years ago

Djinksta wrote:

Lia has been directly responsible for at least 2 goals this season.

Riera might give the ball away but without him we'd be stuffed. He covers for both centre backs and the amount of ground he covers is massive. How about we try vinnie instead of Albert then? What happened last season?

Thumped three to four times. Lia is a liability and none of you seem to understand that.

Also, why didn't Merricks make any subs in the melb City game? I totally didn't get that :/

All Rodriguez needs to do is get some confidence, he looked good against Melbourne I reckon. Much more composed on the ball, not afraid to dribble into space.

so he has pictures of Ernie with a sheep to go with the pictures he had of Ricki with the Goat then? Only explanation I can think of

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about 11 years ago

Boxall to score from a set piece header.

Boxall scoring paying $12 on CentreBet - decent odds, TAB don't offer goal scorer option.

He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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about 11 years ago
Ballane, I am just defending the man that most people here seem to pick on. The expression play the ball not the man comes to mind. Now I know Vinnie has issues, but again I iterate. If Ernie feels that Vinnie is a better choice than A-rod, then he must be the better choice on the day. Now, as to why did Ernie not make any subs. That is incorrect, as Fenton was subbed off due to concussion. You also don't sub anyone when they still have some puff in them and are working together to create chances.
Be obscure clearly
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about 11 years ago

EXALDEAR wrote:
Ballane, I am just defending the man that most people here seem to pick on. The expression play the ball not the man comes to mind. Now I know Vinnie has issues, but again I iterate. If Ernie feels that Vinnie is a better choice than A-rod, then he must be the better choice on the day.

Now, as to why did Ernie not make any subs. That is incorrect, as Fenton was subbed off due to concussion. You also don't sub anyone when they still have some puff in them and are working together to create chances.


Saying every decision Ernie makes is correct is silly; even he wouldn't say that. He took Vinnie off at half time quite recently..

a.haak

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about 11 years ago

Hard News wrote:

Set piece?  Score?  Bahahaha

Anything's possible - even Vince Lia scores one every hundred games

He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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about 11 years ago

Whitby boy wrote:

Hard News wrote:

Set piece?  Score?  Bahahaha

Anything's possible - even Vince Lia scores one every hundred games

Mossy to score the winner!

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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about 11 years ago

Whitby boy wrote:

Hard News wrote:

Set piece?  Score?  Bahahaha

Anything's possible - even Vince Lia scores one every hundred games

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about 11 years ago

EXALDEAR wrote:
Ballane, I am just defending the man that most people here seem to pick on. The expression play the ball not the man comes to mind. Now I know Vinnie has issues, but again I iterate. If Ernie feels that Vinnie is a better choice than A-rod, then he must be the better choice on the day.

Now, as to why did Ernie not make any subs. That is incorrect, as Fenton was subbed off due to concussion. You also don't sub anyone when they still have some puff in them and are working together to create chances.

Well, correct me but I meant no enforced subs. Fenton would never have stayed on. The problem was we were not making proper chances at all. You could tell the game was beginning to drift. City defended deep and got physical when they needed to. I think he should have made some subs to try something different, but when one of your best young talents can't make the squad...

Also, we should not sign Griffiths. He's passed it.

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about 11 years ago
I agree with not signing the cod. Also we were creating chances until the 90th minute, we just could not convert them. Also Boyd is our best player? Or is there someone else you are refering to who could not make the bench.
Be obscure clearly
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about 11 years ago

EXALDEAR wrote:
I agree with not signing the cod. Also we were creating chances until the 90th minute, we just could not convert them. Also Boyd is our best player? Or is there someone else you are refering to who could not make the bench.

Not clear cut chances. I'd think that substitutes may have given us a chance or two, as we were beginning to tire.

I said one of our best young talents. But then again he's up there anyway. Yes, I mean Boyd. What does he have to bluddy do?

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about 11 years ago

erm we created plenty of clear cut chances

a.haak

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