Wellington Phoenix Men

R17 vs CCM | Sat 30th Jan | 7:15pm | AMI Stadium + Spectators

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about 10 years ago

Mainland FC wrote:

martinb wrote:

that would be 8.5k then :)

Not so depressing

Not sure how it sounded fromp anyone down there, but the crowd sounded like the man of the match to me. They kept singing when we were down.

Thanks to all the guys and gals that made the trip.

Chanting in our sector never stopped through the game.


Well done i certainly wouldnt have felt like chanting.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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about 10 years ago

foal30 wrote:

Boro4eva wrote:

only good thing was seeing McGarry on..talent coming through.

Rest was blindingly obvious as an outcome from pre season or early season.

Everyone hopes and talks it up but we just don't have enough quality players.

Really?

Ive watched McGarry play a few times and am still waiting to see why he is even in the squad!  What is this fascination with sons of 'all whites'. To many of these boys get in because of their Dad not because they are good enough. Copy Ridenton and Rufer as well

McGarry is already a good player

I'd have him starting every match given we have blown the playoffs. 

He is definitly top 3 of most promising Phoenix players. And he is not picked because his Dad and Uncle were good players. 

Um... I can't remember a single thing McGarry did last night.

cant say I did either

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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about 10 years ago

Hmmm, pretty clear to me mcgarry played well when he got the park.   He seems to have a great head on his shoulders for a very young fellah....

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about 10 years ago

FFS people. he is 17. Give him a chance. 

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about 10 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

FFS people. he is 17. Give him a chance. 

Rooney was only 16 when he made his premier league debut, mind you, at the end of the day you can't win it with kids, etc, etc

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about 10 years ago

At the game Mcgarry was hugely impressive, like what i wish ridenton could be. Simple but effective link play, i think a midfield of him and rufer could be one for the future.

yung thug

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about 10 years ago · edited about 10 years ago · History

ForteanTimes wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

FFS people. he is 17. Give him a chance. 

Rooney was only 16 when he made his premier league debut, mind you, at the end of the day you can't win it with kids, etc, etc

Pele debuted for Brazil when he was 16. 

McGarry's behind the curve

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 10 years ago · edited about 10 years ago · History

Double post

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 10 years ago

ForteanTimes wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

FFS people. he is 17. Give him a chance. 

Rooney was only 16 when he made his premier league debut, mind you, at the end of the day you can't win it with kids, etc, etc

Pele debuted for Brazil when he was 16. 

McGarry's behind the curve

I was 16 when I didn't achieve shark.  I was miles behind the curve.

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about 10 years ago

At least your behind the bloody curve i am the curve.

Love the way the youngsters have been given a chance but they are kidding themselves if they think they are the basis for a competitive team.


GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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about 10 years ago

Two of the goal were caused by senior players with buckets load of experience.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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about 10 years ago

He looked composed and laid off some good passes.  Anyway...

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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about 10 years ago

Quite sad seeing the death of the Phoenix being prolonged over an entire season. The end will almost be a relief. 

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about 10 years ago

Nobodies dead

We will solider on Manfully

No Surrender

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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about 10 years ago

I hope you're right but I'm definitely prepared for the worst...

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about 10 years ago

Arsenal wrote:

I hope you're right but I'm definitely prepared for the worst...

You are a plonker

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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about 10 years ago

Arsenal wrote:

I hope you're right but I'm definitely prepared for the worst...

I'm right, I'm right

Everything around me tells me I'm right

I watch TV and I see I'm right

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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about 10 years ago

ForteanTimes wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

FFS people. he is 17. Give him a chance. 

Rooney was only 16 when he made his premier league debut, mind you, at the end of the day you can't win it with kids, etc, etc

i was thinking this also . isn't martial 18 or near as well . age should make no difference . if you're  a pro you're gonna get critisised weather  17 or 30 etc

I LOVE LAMP

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about 10 years ago

If you have the talent age is not a barrier. Thinks of Gerry Francis, Paul Rideout, Norman Whiteside. Sure they were in places where the coaching was much more concentrated but everywhere around the world these guys are born and some develop. I dont buy into the argument of holding them back till they are 21 or 22. Whatever their age, they will not get any protection from the A League referees. Something that just has to be griined and beared at.I think Fox has the ability to be a stable CB for the next 10 years. I was disappointed that Fenton has not kicked on since his debut but I do acknowledge his shoulders have caused that for the most part. However running around the opposition can still be done instead of the constant cutting inside. He is becoming prefictable and the opposition defenders must be waiting for it every game.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 10 years ago

Mainland FC wrote:

martinb wrote:

that would be 8.5k then :)

Not so depressing

Not sure how it sounded fromp anyone down there, but the crowd sounded like the man of the match to me. They kept singing when we were down.

Thanks to all the guys and gals that made the trip.

Chanting in our sector never stopped through the game.


Well done i certainly wouldnt have felt like chanting.

Maybe this type of chanting:

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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about 10 years ago

NHpeter wrote:

Warwick Hunt wrote:

So looking forward to that friendly Cantab greeting "Sit down!" :-)

Let me know if it is worse than Auckland



Managed to get thru game without one "Sit Down!, but wasn't in the back row of the "standing choir" :-) 

However, there were a few young locals (made an assumption)  behaving how they think football fans should behave in the Fever Zone. 

Tickets? Tickets? We talkin’ about tickets?

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about 10 years ago

martinb wrote:

If we can't score against these guys who keep passing to the sideline...is Ridenton injured?

Eye infection. Didn't travel.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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about 10 years ago

I enjoyed the atmosphere with the lively crowd, chants etc.

Many of the local kids and youths were getting pretty raucous and displayed a lot of enthusiasm - some very excited five to eighteen year-olds wearing Phoenix shirts in the crowd made a lot of noise and generated their own amusing banter.

Makes me think there's hope for the future and not all Cantabs will grow up to be rugby-head farming types.

Otherwise the most fun we get down here is doing something radical like putting an unexpected item in the bagging area at the supermarket:

Joe Wilkinson, "Eight Out of Ten Cats":

"Occasionally I like to put an unexpected item in the bagging area - just...just... to hear a woman's voice..."

25 mins in:

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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about 10 years ago

FWIW 8,500 is not terrible for Christchurch given the form of the Phoenix. Can't help but think VBase charging $30 is a little bit much though.

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about 10 years ago

I reckon the crowd was bigger. That stand was full and the one opposite was 3/4 full. I reckon more like 11k - 12k imho

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 10 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

I reckon the crowd was bigger. That stand was full and the one opposite was 3/4 full. I reckon more like 11k - 12k imho

No way with our #Metrics we would have under quoted the crowd number that turned up.

I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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about 10 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

I reckon the crowd was bigger. That stand was full and the one opposite was 3/4 full. I reckon more like 11k - 12k imho

If anything, the opposite applies. 

Seats in the AMI Members area are presold (= counted) but were sparsely used as it was not rugby. Couple of my local acquaintances turned up in those seats and told me later that they simply came in for the novelty value. They did not mind that we lost (and would not have cared if we had won), said they were happy we scored a consolation goal and that we "played well" (???).

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 10 years ago

They don't count sales though, or at least shouldn't. That is why the actual attendance at westpac is usually a k or two below pax.

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about 10 years ago

Ryan wrote:

They don't count sales though, or at least shouldn't. That is why the actual attendance at westpac is usually a k or two below pax.

I thought its also because people buy but don't turn up, season ticket holders that miss a game or 2 etc.

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about 10 years ago

Yes that's what I meant. Pax includes stadium passes, corporate tickets, and season passes at the start.

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about 10 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Yes that's what I meant. Pax includes stadium passes, corporate tickets, and season passes at the start.

Oh sorry, my bad.  Carry on.

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about 10 years ago · edited about 10 years ago · History

http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/a-league/76447...

Words fail me...

I guess at a basic level, comparing season-long crowds in Wellington with one off crowds in Chch is clearly bollocks. And did Dome really whinge that much? And as for the Nix being a Wellington businessmen's plaything... I just.... I....

......Agh!

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 10 years ago

Nothing sensible from Tony Smith has come for a long, long time.

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about 10 years ago

These are the quotes from Thunder. Hardly a whinge.

"I think if we had got 10 or 11 [thousand], it would have been a no-brainer [to come back]," Dome said.

"It was slightly below expectations I would say."

Christchurch City Council's events company Vbase paid the Phoenix a fee to bring a game to the stadium and required about 6000 paying spectators to break even.

Dome said they needed to crunch the numbers, but did not expect the match to generate a deficit.

"We have a business model between us and Vbase. We hope it's a win-win situation for both organisations.

"We certainly don't want to see Vbase or us losing money on these sort of exercises."

Dome said taking the team around the country was important for the Phoenix, but it had to be viable financially.

"We'll have to look into it and have a good think about it and whether it makes sense to [return to Christchurch].

"It will be a case of weighing up the best [financial] model for us."

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about 10 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

These are the quotes from Thunder. Hardly a whinge.

"I think if we had got 10 or 11 [thousand], it would have been a no-brainer [to come back]," Dome said.

"It was slightly below expectations I would say."

Christchurch City Council's events company Vbase paid the Phoenix a fee to bring a game to the stadium and required about 6000 paying spectators to break even.

Dome said they needed to crunch the numbers, but did not expect the match to generate a deficit.

"We have a business model between us and Vbase. We hope it's a win-win situation for both organisations.

"We certainly don't want to see Vbase or us losing money on these sort of exercises."

Dome said taking the team around the country was important for the Phoenix, but it had to be viable financially.

"We'll have to look into it and have a good think about it and whether it makes sense to [return to Christchurch].

"It will be a case of weighing up the best [financial] model for us."

Cheers. I actually had no idea what Dome had said but had assumed that if it was a proper whinge I would have heard about it on here!

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 10 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

These are the quotes from Thunder. Hardly a whinge.

"I think if we had got 10 or 11 [thousand], it would have been a no-brainer [to come back]," Dome said.

"It was slightly below expectations I would say."

Christchurch City Council's events company Vbase paid the Phoenix a fee to bring a game to the stadium and required about 6000 paying spectators to break even.

Dome said they needed to crunch the numbers, but did not expect the match to generate a deficit.

"We have a business model between us and Vbase. We hope it's a win-win situation for both organisations.

"We certainly don't want to see Vbase or us losing money on these sort of exercises."

Dome said taking the team around the country was important for the Phoenix, but it had to be viable financially.

"We'll have to look into it and have a good think about it and whether it makes sense to [return to Christchurch].

"It will be a case of weighing up the best [financial] model for us."

Hardly an endorsement of the fans who turned up to see a below strength and underperforming team playing the bottom team. More couched in the negative stuff from Dome. Some fair comment in the article

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about 10 years ago

hepatitis wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

These are the quotes from Thunder. Hardly a whinge.

"I think if we had got 10 or 11 [thousand], it would have been a no-brainer [to come back]," Dome said.

"It was slightly below expectations I would say."

Christchurch City Council's events company Vbase paid the Phoenix a fee to bring a game to the stadium and required about 6000 paying spectators to break even.

Dome said they needed to crunch the numbers, but did not expect the match to generate a deficit.

"We have a business model between us and Vbase. We hope it's a win-win situation for both organisations.

"We certainly don't want to see Vbase or us losing money on these sort of exercises."

Dome said taking the team around the country was important for the Phoenix, but it had to be viable financially.

"We'll have to look into it and have a good think about it and whether it makes sense to [return to Christchurch].

"It will be a case of weighing up the best [financial] model for us."

Hardly an endorsement of the fans who turned up to see a below strength and underperforming team playing the bottom team. More couched in the negative stuff from Dome. Some fair comment in the article

Not sure what the problem is? He says they expected more and they don't wann loose money, everybody was happy with the crowd who was there. The attendance was a topic in the press last week so he addressed it. If he said nothing or said everything is fine people would question that. He is also not commenting the team performance because that is the coaches job, and if you saw Ernie post match interview you could see how disappointed he was. You can imagine Dome is not happy about the performance either, just makes Welnix job harder on every level.

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about 10 years ago

2k more than the break even number showed up. Atmosphere was better than most down there thus far. Locals got a bit more involved imo. Nice to see 2 Perth fans whom had come over early on a holiday, show up in their tops to watch before coming up to Wellington. The CCM fans whom had also flown over were pretty good and I believe if this kind of situation with them travelling here continues, it will do great stuff for tourism. 

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 10 years ago · edited about 10 years ago · History

number8 wrote:

hepatitis wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

These are the quotes from Thunder. Hardly a whinge.

"I think if we had got 10 or 11 [thousand], it would have been a no-brainer [to come back]," Dome said.

"It was slightly below expectations I would say."

Christchurch City Council's events company Vbase paid the Phoenix a fee to bring a game to the stadium and required about 6000 paying spectators to break even.

Dome said they needed to crunch the numbers, but did not expect the match to generate a deficit.

"We have a business model between us and Vbase. We hope it's a win-win situation for both organisations.

"We certainly don't want to see Vbase or us losing money on these sort of exercises."

Dome said taking the team around the country was important for the Phoenix, but it had to be viable financially.

"We'll have to look into it and have a good think about it and whether it makes sense to [return to Christchurch].

"It will be a case of weighing up the best [financial] model for us."

Hardly an endorsement of the fans who turned up to see a below strength and underperforming team playing the bottom team. More couched in the negative stuff from Dome. Some fair comment in the article

Not sure what the problem is? He says they expected more and they don't wann loose money, everybody was happy with the crowd who was there. The attendance was a topic in the press last week so he addressed it. If he said nothing or said everything is fine people would question that. He is also not commenting the team performance because that is the coaches job, and if you saw Ernie post match interview you could see how disappointed he was. You can imagine Dome is not happy about the performance either, just makes Welnix job harder on every level.

I dont see Dome saying that actually. Thats the point.

I'm not having a big raz about it by the way, just noting it is typical of the negative tone he uses

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about 10 years ago

I see there being 2 possible publicity strategies here; 1 where Dome tells the truth [as he has done here] and the 2nd where he should engage in a bit of spin and put emphasis on the positive rather than constantly bemoaning the fact that they are not getting the big crowd numbers and they are not making as much money as they really want. I would have thought he would have taken notice of the fact that strategy number 1 has not resulted in any great increase in crowd numbers [ any increases can probably be put down to the Save the Nix campaign, rather than fans reacting to threats of the nix not playing in their town again or the owners pulling the plug because they are not making enough money]. So why continue flogging the dead horse? They/he need to change their tune if the Nix continue, stop this constant bleating in the press and try and be more positive.

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