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R22 vs Brisbane | Sun 22 Mar | 7:00pm | SS5

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almost 11 years ago · edited almost 11 years ago · History

I wonder if it depends on the bet? My missus made two bets for Phoenix to win outright, (one at the start, and one when we went down) won both, and was paid out for both.

Maybe things like first scorer or score prediction have terms that the game must last 90mins or something?

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almost 11 years ago

james dean wrote:

predicting this will be very pleasing

VERY PLEASING!!!!

Normo's coming home

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almost 11 years ago

Phoenix to win was paid out, as was Burns or WeeMac to score.

Any combo bets using these were not paid, and anything mentioning fulltime wouldn't be paid, so a fulltime score, or HT/FT doubles etc should be refunded.

By the letter of their rules they think they should've refunded Phoenix Win bets as well, they did refund Brisbane & Draw bets.

I got a collect on my Nix win bet, also had one put on Bet365 when it went 1-0 for Nix to win, that has been refunded, and it looks like they have refunded everything.

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almost 11 years ago

Brisbane are really sounding like sore losers here.  So much angst against the result.  No doubt the FFA will have to rush a change to  that rule 22.22.  For ferks sake,  I understand they are angry but going so far to say the competition isn't fair and turning their back on their team and sport is disgraceful.  If the game had been an hour earlier, we wouldn't be having the conversation.  And who knows how the match would have ended if we'd play to the full 90.  Perhaps we'd have scored again. 

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almost 11 years ago

Brisbane are really sounding like sore losers here.  So much angst against the result.  No doubt the FFA will have to rush a change to  that rule 22.22. 

To what? "Replay or 0-0 draw if the game doesn't go the full 90"?


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almost 11 years ago

Doloras wrote:

Brisbane are really sounding like sore losers here.  So much angst against the result.  No doubt the FFA will have to rush a change to  that rule 22.22. 

To what? "Replay or 0-0 draw if the game doesn't go the full 90"?

Replay probably.  

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almost 11 years ago

We never complain.

A fan is a fan.

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almost 11 years ago

Here is an objective question to those moaners from Brisbane:

If they were up 2-1, would they be out there complaining that the competition is not honest and its not fair and advocating on behalf of the Phoenix? Fudge off they would. They are just crying cause they dropped their bowl of cereal on the floor and its mums fault for not vacuuming the carpet  Their bitch is not about a fair competition and all they want is to point the finger at someone else rather than look at the fact that they were outplayed for the majority of the match.

"Ooohhh but we had a free-kick!" Really? How did the other ones work out for you? If they looked at the tape objectively, they would know that the result is more than fair.

The end.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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almost 11 years ago

If the shoe was on the other foot I would feel some degree of frustration, no doubt, but especially if Brisbane were looking likely to win anyway I would've just shrugged and moved on to the next game. 

a.haak

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almost 11 years ago

valeo wrote:

If the shoe was on the other foot I would feel some degree of frustration, no doubt, but especially if Brisbane were looking likely to win anyway I would've just shrugged and moved on to the next game. 

I think that is the main thrust of it. As a fan collective (once you filter through the angst on here sometimes), I think we are pretty good at knowing if we deserved a victory, did not deserve one or got robbed. If we had been under the pump to them and this happened, most of us would go 'well we were not winning and not likely to win so onwards to next week'. Its not like we are the RBB and go "ITZ NOT FARE!! YOUSE CUNTS FUCT US SO WE'S GONNA RIOT" and get all stabby.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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almost 11 years ago

I wonder what the Roar fans' reaction would have been if the game had played on, the score had stayed the same, but they lost a key player or 2 to season-ending injuries because of the conditions?

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almost 11 years ago

Doloras wrote:

Brisbane are really sounding like sore losers here.  So much angst against the result.  No doubt the FFA will have to rush a change to  that rule 22.22. 

To what? "Replay or 0-0 draw if the game doesn't go the full 90"?

Replay probably.  

Brisbane coach wanted to replay 2nd half only. So come back and play another 45 starting at 2-1 I guess.

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almost 11 years ago

Brisbane fans are pissed off because they were going through a period of ascendancy in the eb and flows of the match.

They were only starting to become dominant because the standing water was affecting our ability to pass the ball in the midfield.

The reality is if the game continued it would just be a lottery, with a puddle of water catching out a defender, or the ball slipping out of a goal keepers hands, any further scoring would not be down to the merits of either team.

Brisbane fans also think that the Roar is the best finishing team in the league, I'd like to see a comparison between goals in the last twenty between them and the nix. The fact that they have had severe fixture congestion makes me believe that we were more likely to finish stronger.

This situation is never going to be fair - but it is as fair as it can be.

The real blame should be levelled at Suncorps ground staff, the pitch looked dreadful even before the game started.

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almost 11 years ago

I can't recall this final free kick but was it a result of the bad playing surface and/or conditions? I saw a few bad fouls and the like attributable to the conditions

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almost 11 years ago

It would be ridiculous to change it.  Imagine being 6-0 up with 5 minutes to play and it becomes unplayable (say the lights go out).  Do you then demand a replay?

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almost 11 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

valeo wrote:

If the shoe was on the other foot I would feel some degree of frustration, no doubt, but especially if Brisbane were looking likely to win anyway I would've just shrugged and moved on to the next game. 

I think that is the main thrust of it. As a fan collective (once you filter through the angst on here sometimes), I think we are pretty good at knowing if we deserved a victory, did not deserve one or got robbed. If we had been under the pump to them and this happened, most of us would go 'well we were not winning and not likely to win so onwards to next week'. Its not like we are the RBB and go "ITZ NOT FARE!! YOUSE CUNTS FUCT US SO WE'S GONNA RIOT" and get all stabby.

Come on JV you cant be serious.Not sure what you have seen on these forums to convince you of that. Had the result been the other way i have no doubt that the forums would have gone nuclear and one can only imagine the number of conspiracy theories that would be about.LOL 

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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almost 11 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Brisbane fans are pissed off because they were going through a period of ascendancy in the eb and flows of the match.

They were only starting to become dominant because the standing water was affecting our ability to pass the ball in the midfield.

The reality is if the game continued it would just be a lottery, with a puddle of water catching out a defender, or the ball slipping out of a goal keepers hands, any further scoring would not be down to the merits of either team.

Brisbane fans also think that the Roar is the best finishing team in the league, I'd like to see a comparison between goals in the last twenty between them and the nix. The fact that they have had severe fixture congestion makes me believe that we were more likely to finish stronger.

This situation is never going to be fair - but it is as fair as it can be.

The real blame should be levelled at Suncorps ground staff, the pitch looked dreadful even before the game started.

Fact is there had been heavy rain a few hours before the game and you could have rowed a boat across it. That drained away well and then to have another 80  mls dumped on it in an hour made it unplayable. There was also a NRL game on it the night before.

I think you are being a bit unfair on the  ground staff.TBF we would have been pissed off had  the positions been reversed.

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almost 11 years ago

hepatitis wrote:

Their drains must have been clogged!

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almost 11 years ago

I wonder what the Roar fans reaction would be if it was any other team but the Phoenix. It's "not fair" if FFA rules benefit those sheep-shagging Nux who shouldn't be in their dinkum Aussie competition anyway. If they'd lost to Adelaide, that'd be all right.


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almost 11 years ago

Brisbane are really sounding like sore losers here.  So much angst against the result.  No doubt the FFA will have to rush a change to  that rule 22.22.  For ferks sake,  I understand they are angry but going so far to say the competition isn't fair and turning their back on their team and sport is disgraceful.  If the game had been an hour earlier, we wouldn't be having the conversation.  And who knows how the match would have ended if we'd play to the full 90.  Perhaps we'd have scored again. 

Didn't Ernie have to sit in the stands for a game and cop a fine for saying something about the refs

lols

I wonder what happens when you slag off the competition rules and the league?

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almost 11 years ago

nomeans wrote:

Well ive been on the phone to TAB all morning. Looks like they arent going to pay out and are just going to refund some bets and not others even though it clearly states in their terms and conditions that they should be paying out.

15.13 Football (a) Match betting is conducted according to Normal Time unless otherwise stated. If a match is abandoned, bets will be Void **unless a result has already been determined.** http://static.tab.co.nz/content/pdf_form/tab_rule...

and in the acttab terms and conditions also owned by Tabcorp:

10.1.8.2 If a soccer match is officially called off prior to its scheduled conclusion and **an official match result is declared by the relevant recognised governing body, relevant bets will be determined on that result.** 

https://www.acttab.com.au/sites/default/files/Tabc...



Ill be closing my account and taking my money elsewhere.

(Still im happy enough with just the win though)

Helps if you look at the right TAB i.e. not Australia's TAB.


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almost 11 years ago

mjp2 wrote:

Brisbane are really sounding like sore losers here.  So much angst against the result.  No doubt the FFA will have to rush a change to  that rule 22.22.  For ferks sake,  I understand they are angry but going so far to say the competition isn't fair and turning their back on their team and sport is disgraceful.  If the game had been an hour earlier, we wouldn't be having the conversation.  And who knows how the match would have ended if we'd play to the full 90.  Perhaps we'd have scored again. 

Didn't Ernie have to sit in the stands for a game and cop a fine for saying something about the refs

lols

I wonder what happens when you slag off the competition rules and the league?

I was thinking this myself after watching the sports news tonight.  Surely they will have to fine him.

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almost 11 years ago

I think that this is all part of a conspiracy - it was too close to the 80th minute to be anything other than.  The FFA are obviously sick of the shirts off, having seen it too many times this season, and will do anything to stop it happening. I predict the next game we are leading in the 75th minute, the ref and both linesmen (sorry, referees assistants) will go down injured, the game will have to be abandoned and we will be awarded the points.

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Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
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almost 11 years ago

The amount of rain fall (mm per hour) was much higher than the percolation rate and I'd hazard a guess then percolation rate isn't all THAT bad at suncorp. They've had their fair share of challenges regarding the turf - going back as far as the 2010 floods and as recently as the Foo Fighters concert. I don't think you can really point the finger at the ground staff as all of these things are well out of their control not to mention most grounds won't drain that amount of water in that short time. They are due to have a full turf replacement soon I believe so they will be pleased about that.

Fuck this stupid game

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almost 11 years ago

Doloras wrote:

I wonder what the Roar fans reaction would be if it was any other team but the Phoenix. It's "not fair" if FFA rules benefit those sheep-shagging Nux who shouldn't be in their dinkum Aussie competition anyway. If they'd lost to Adelaide, that'd be all right.

Dont think this has anything to do with their angat to be honest.

a.haak

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almost 11 years ago

I want to know how many mils of rain fell during the course of the match?

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almost 11 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

I want to know how many mils fell during the course of the match?

Mick did, Kyle wobbled but stayed up.

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almost 11 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

I want to know how many mils of rain fell during the course of the match?

Lots of people do Andy. They said during the commentary that the weather station at Suncorp had died during the downpour so they didn't have accurate figures available.


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almost 11 years ago

bwtcf wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

I want to know how many mils of rain fell during the course of the match?

Lots of people do Andy. They said during the commentary that the weather station at Suncorp had died during the downpour so they didn't have accurate figures available.

I can definitely confirm that the answer is "lots"! My belt still isn't dry!

When they announced in the stadium that we had been awarded the points we still got our shirts off - and by the time I'd swung it round once is was about 16 feet long because of the amount of water in it!! :-D

And yes, the Suncorp security got sh!tty with us and didn't like shirts off!

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almost 11 years ago

Oh, and official thanks to Brandon and Patrick for not travelling, your contribution to our victory was noted!

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almost 11 years ago

I saw on a Brisbane website that 81 mm fell from Sun 9 am to Mon 9 am if that helps...

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almost 11 years ago

Add this here - 442.au forum going well on Nix hosting the final in NZ. lol

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The thing is that the only place in the country which could host AFL games is the RoF - which is one of the reasons it was built too big for the rectangular-field codes - but St Kilda are the rapey team so I should blimmin' well hope they don't move here. (Anyway, we already have a Wellington Saints.)

On the subject, though, they hold ANBL finals here, right? And there'd be nothing to prevent an NRL final at Eden Park?


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almost 11 years ago

Hard News wrote:

The A in A-League means us much as the E in EPL.

Twits.

We'll all be laughing at them when the Promotion/Relegation comes in and the second league is called the B-League (B for Brisbane?)

Thought it was the BPL? (Barclays not British :D)

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almost 11 years ago

And there's a Welsh team in the "E"PL anyway.


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