Wellington Phoenix Men

R25 vs Melbourne City | Mon 28th Mar | 9:30pm | SS4

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almost 10 years ago

Soooo sick of us.

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almost 10 years ago

This is painful

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almost 10 years ago

james dean wrote:

We have done the same thing for three years ad the only time it has looked any good is when we had the best player in the league.  I am dubious about Merrick

So we're trying to buy better players. Having better players than the opposition does tend to help. What should we be doing?



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almost 10 years ago

Well this is rubbish. Again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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almost 10 years ago

hepatitis wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Hep, please read Martins message after yours.

I did  

I don't have much experience of them in that league. 

I am saying we are out here in the Pacific, with one professional league. I don't have high expectations.

They make some classic stuff ups and we get some poor calls

But it isn't really making any difference in our results actually, we are poor on the field.

Yep, there are some (very few) games they change the result of.  This isn't one of them.

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almost 10 years ago

Commentator - "The Nix second half has been an absolute catastrophe this season".

The other commentator - "Well, they've lost to CCM twice this season!"

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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almost 10 years ago

martinb wrote:

james dean wrote:

We have done the same thing for three years ad the only time it has looked any good is when we had the best player in the league.  I am dubious about Merrick

So we're trying to buy better players. Having better players than the opposition does tend to help. What should we be doing?

A different plan?  

Normo's coming home

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almost 10 years ago

Don't understand why Roly would want to stick around - he must be sick of getting smashed every week.

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almost 10 years ago

Even if Beath was a decent referee we would still be getting shat on 

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almost 10 years ago

Jesus lil Mac is terrible.



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almost 10 years ago

martinb wrote:

james dean wrote:

We have done the same thing for three years ad the only time it has looked any good is when we had the best player in the league.  I am dubious about Merrick

So we're trying to buy better players. Having better players than the opposition does tend to help. What should we be doing?

So we have worse players than every other club in the league, other than CCM who we can't beat?

I think James is stating that we always play the same way. And he's right. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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almost 10 years ago · edited almost 10 years ago · History

aitkenmike wrote:

hepatitis wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Hep, please read Martins message after yours.

I did  

I don't have much experience of them in that league. 

I am saying we are out here in the Pacific, with one professional league. I don't have high expectations.

They make some classic stuff ups and we get some poor calls

But it isn't really making any difference in our results actually, we are poor on the field.

Yep, there are some (very few) games they change the result of.  This isn't one of them.

If Garruchio was on a yellow early in the first half we'd be able to put much more pressure on him. With Krishna on the park to do it.



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almost 10 years ago

martinb wrote:

james dean wrote:

We have done the same thing for three years ad the only time it has looked any good is when we had the best player in the league.  I am dubious about Merrick

So we're trying to buy better players. Having better players than the opposition does tend to help. What should we be doing?

But seriously, when you look at the state of our squad right now you wonder with the surely limited cap space we have available, what we can actually do even with 3-4 new players.  We are a class below teams

Normo's coming home

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almost 10 years ago

aitkenmike wrote:

Don't understand why Roly would want to stick around - he must be sick of getting smashed every week.

Has a contract, doesn't have much choice.

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almost 10 years ago

It's frustrating to watch, we have no width going forward, I'm not sure if it's the full backs fault for not getting forward quickly enough or if it's just bad tactics. By not using our width we're making the pitch smaller for ourselves which is easier for the defending team. We beat this very same team a few weeks ago 5-1 even with Mooy. Looking forward to the off-season so I can  attempt to mentally recover from this season.  

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almost 10 years ago

Just fudge. Fudge fudge fudge.

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almost 10 years ago · edited almost 10 years ago · History

james dean wrote:

martinb wrote:

james dean wrote:

We have done the same thing for three years ad the only time it has looked any good is when we had the best player in the league.  I am dubious about Merrick

So we're trying to buy better players. Having better players than the opposition does tend to help. What should we be doing?

But seriously, when you look at the state of our squad right now you wonder with the surely limited cap space we have available, what we can actually do even with 3-4 new players.  We are a class below teams

Fornaroli is under the cap. We are signing Gui, a player who has been found out in the A-League already and isn't as good as he used to be (post major injury), as our import marquee. It's a bit worrying, really.

a.haak

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almost 10 years ago

I think if anything our penetration was particularly poor today, apart from the excellent play by Mb City up front (Novillo actually better than Fornarolli tbh)

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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almost 10 years ago · edited almost 10 years ago · History

martinb wrote:

aitkenmike wrote:

hepatitis wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Hep, please read Martins message after yours.

I did  

I don't have much experience of them in that league. 

I am saying we are out here in the Pacific, with one professional league. I don't have high expectations.

They make some classic stuff ups and we get some poor calls

But it isn't really making any difference in our results actually, we are poor on the field.

Yep, there are some (very few) games they change the result of.  This isn't one of them.

If Garruchio was on a yellow early in the first half we'd be able to put much more pressure on him. With Krishna on the park to do it.

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almost 10 years ago

We have lacked width all year (and last year) which has not helped.

I think our biggest issue though has been our inability to hit the final pass, we always seem to over hit it and the chance goes away. Hopefully Finkler will solve that.

We do get in good positions, but then nothing happens.

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almost 10 years ago

Fornarolli is just tooooo good. That was an amazing strike

To be fair Muscat got done all ends up by Fitzgerald in the build up. Love the fact that the crowd were giving him a bit of stick though - Do they even realise he'll be there next season?

Great strike by Fornaroli, he's a class above anyone else in this league at the moment. That's the type of striker we need...

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almost 10 years ago

Well, for all I hoped he would become a class above, I think we need someone better than Fenton at right back, considering how much we are using him to start attacks.

Tough to play in Melbourne against this team with deep pockets and resources at 9:30 at night.



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almost 10 years ago

surely if that's no foul it's a yellow for diving in the box?



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almost 10 years ago

When we do the EOY review on players I think I some of the "awards" are so clear cut.

Biggest Underperformer: McGlinchey

AWOL Award:McGlinchey

Worst beard: McGlinchey

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almost 10 years ago

valeo wrote:

james dean wrote:

martinb wrote:

james dean wrote:

We have done the same thing for three years ad the only time it has looked any good is when we had the best player in the league.  I am dubious about Merrick

So we're trying to buy better players. Having better players than the opposition does tend to help. What should we be doing?

But seriously, when you look at the state of our squad right now you wonder with the surely limited cap space we have available, what we can actually do even with 3-4 new players.  We are a class below teams

Fornaroli is under the cap. We are signing Gui, a player who has been found out in the A-League already and isn't as good as he used to be (post major injury), as our import marquee. It's a bit worrying, really.

Fornaroli has kind of blown up out of nowhere.  But players we are expecting to be part of a starting XI next year like Fenton, Durante Rodriguez, Riera, Powell, Doyle - they just don't look up to it.

Normo's coming home

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almost 10 years ago

Fornaroli -Hamish Watson -Grand Canyon 

The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.

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almost 10 years ago

Finkler and Kosta will help, but we're sorely lacking in other areas.

Durante is possibly past it, Muscat going, Fenton just not good enough, Riera on a downward spiral, McGlinchey a total passenger and the likes of Powell and Watson just not good enough either.

Some of our defeats have been embarrassing this season, that was another one. They've completely given up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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almost 10 years ago

4 day week guys! Go watch Jamie Vardy's goal against Germany



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almost 10 years ago

1 shot on target in 180 minutes of football... 

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almost 10 years ago · edited almost 10 years ago · History

james dean wrote:

We have done the same thing for three years ad the only time it has looked any good is when we had the best player in the league.  I am dubious about Merrick

Ernie Merrick adamant Wellington Phoenix will make A-League finals

Coach Ernie Merrick calls this 'the best' Wellington Phoenix squad he's had

Founder

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almost 10 years ago

There is no point bitching about the salary cap, its a known quantity.

A great question to ask is, who the hell was Forneralli before the A League? Where do we find more players like him.

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almost 10 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

There is no point bitching about the salary cap, its a known quantity.

A great question to ask is, who the hell was Forneralli before the A League? Where do we find more players like him.

We could start by sending scouts out of Aus/NZ once in a while.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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almost 10 years ago

Prior to Melbourne he played...109 games for 23 goals.

Probably wasn't that expensive, good luck fitting him under the cap when his contract comes up for renewal.

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almost 10 years ago

james dean wrote:

Fornaroli has kind of blown up out of nowhere.  But players we are expecting to be part of a starting XI next year like Fenton, Durante Rodriguez, Riera, Powell, Doyle - they just don't look up to it.

You would be surprised how affordable Uruguayan or Argentinean players can be, as Europe is open to the best only. Manyend up in Middle East or China.

Even five - six years ago HAL had little opportunity for players with good ball-handling skills and intricate, fast passing. Hell, we even managed to get into playoffs once under Ricki Herbert!  But players like Fornarolli have far more opportunity in the A-League of today.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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almost 10 years ago

Steve-O wrote:

Finkler and Kosta will help, but we're sorely lacking in other areas.

Durante is possibly past it, Muscat going, Fenton just not good enough, Riera on a downward spiral, McGlinchey a total passenger and the likes of Powell and Watson just not good enough either.

Some of our defeats have been embarrassing this season, that was another one. They've completely given up.

I think you are almost 100% correct.

Our midfield was passable but our defense and strikers are embarrassing .

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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almost 10 years ago

valeo wrote:

james dean wrote:

martinb wrote:

james dean wrote:

We have done the same thing for three years ad the only time it has looked any good is when we had the best player in the league.  I am dubious about Merrick

So we're trying to buy better players. Having better players than the opposition does tend to help. What should we be doing?

But seriously, when you look at the state of our squad right now you wonder with the surely limited cap space we have available, what we can actually do even with 3-4 new players.  We are a class below teams

Fornaroli is under the cap. We are signing Gui, a player who has been found out in the A-League already and isn't as good as he used to be (post major injury), as our import marquee. It's a bit worrying, really.

when you here that we are around the cap, weemac maybe over it, i have to scratch my head when comparing squads. is it wgtn that needs to be overcome with a bit more money, are city's training facilities worth taking a cut in pay - same with the links to man city?
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almost 10 years ago

I know we have "contacts" in the UK, but do we have any in Sth America?

Obviously our luck with Brazilians has been hot and miss, but the potential is huge... Forneralli came in as a free and would demand at least 2 million.

And I only say that low because he's only on a 2 year contract otherwise he'd be worth a lot more.

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almost 10 years ago

Leggy wrote:

Steve-O wrote:

Finkler and Kosta will help, but we're sorely lacking in other areas.

Durante is possibly past it, Muscat going, Fenton just not good enough, Riera on a downward spiral, McGlinchey a total passenger and the likes of Powell and Watson just not good enough either.

Some of our defeats have been embarrassing this season, that was another one. They've completely given up.

I think you are almost 100% correct.

Our midfield was passable but our defense and strikers are embarrassing .

All 3 seasons under Ernie we have finished the season absolutely terribly...completely limped home

Normo's coming home

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almost 10 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

I know we have "contacts" in the UK, but do we have any in Sth America?

Obviously our luck with Brazilians has been hot and miss, but the potential is huge... Forneralli came in as a free and would demand at least 2 million.

And I only say that low because he's only on a 2 year contract otherwise he'd be worth a lot more.

Our UK contacts suggest kids from the U21 league - that's not where we need to be looking

Normo's coming home

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almost 10 years ago

Riera is struggling with the added pace this year.

Roly would be a lot more dangerous if he had wide players to hit, he turns on the ball well and looks to move it forward but can't because everyone is bunched in the middle. I really hope Kosta brings a shift in how we play.

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