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R4 v Melbourne Victory | 9:15pm Monday Nov 2 | Four Kings

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over 10 years ago

Let's get together at Four Kings and watch the game on Monday night. And have a giant fudgeing group hug.

End of an era.  Vinnie - It's over.

If anyone cares for my inane babbling follow @iluvnix17 on the Twitter.

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over 10 years ago

Keen, now to convince the wife!

I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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over 10 years ago

Just realised it is on Nov 2nd. Cool.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 10 years ago

I hope the Nix come out firing for this. Red card(s) please.

Adelaide's resident Nix supporter
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over 10 years ago

I hope the Nix come out firing for this. Red card(s) please.

The FFA are pretty good at issuing red cards for no reason

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 10 years ago

Lets kill them


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over 10 years ago

I <3 Nix wrote:

Let's get together at Four Kings and watch the game on Monday night. And have a giant fudgeing group hug.

Will there be cake?

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over 10 years ago

Poss

End of an era.  Vinnie - It's over.

If anyone cares for my inane babbling follow @iluvnix17 on the Twitter.

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over 10 years ago

I'll forgo the Carlsberg for Mac Gold Monday and hope I'm not band by the Residence! 

  Supporter For Ever - Keep The Faith - Foundation Member - Never Lets FAX Get In The Way Of A Good Yarn

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over 10 years ago

I <3 Nix wrote:

Let's get together at Four Kings and watch the game on Monday night. And have a giant fudgeing group hug.

Doesnt this then diminish the Sky TV ratings?..better to all stay at home and watch individually. ;>)

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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over 10 years ago

Just killed Sky Sports this morning - read my comments on other thread.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 10 years ago

Boro4eva wrote:

I <3 Nix wrote:

Let's get together at Four Kings and watch the game on Monday night. And have a giant fudgeing group hug.

Doesnt this then diminish the Sky TV ratings?..better to all stay at home and watch individually. ;>)

Only if you have a Neilson box. There are only 500 in NZ. For all we know, the A-league ratings are much higher than what the stats currently suggest....



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over 10 years ago

Does anyone actually know of anyone having one of those? And do they move them around or is it the same 500 people all the time? 

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 10 years ago

Staggers my mind that huge decisions like this are still made based off completely antiquated technology.

a.haak

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over 10 years ago

Squatters Vs Victory, should be a good game.

Mr Positive

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over 10 years ago

Royz wrote:

Squatters Vs Victory, should be a good game.

That's how the Eureka Stockade got started

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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over 10 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

Does anyone actually know of anyone having one of those? And do they move them around or is it the same 500 people all the time? 

They move them around after a fixed period. 

Can't remember how long, either a week or a month or sth like that.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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over 10 years ago

I hope the Nix come out firing for this. Red card(s) please.

The FFA are pretty good at issuing red cards for no reason

Looks like we need some red flares from the R&B Block

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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over 10 years ago

nufc_nz wrote:

Boro4eva wrote:

I <3 Nix wrote:

Let's get together at Four Kings and watch the game on Monday night. And have a giant fudgeing group hug.

Doesnt this then diminish the Sky TV ratings?..better to all stay at home and watch individually. ;>)

Only if you have a Neilson box. There are only 500 in NZ. For all we know, the A-league ratings are much higher than what the stats currently suggest....

ahha..I thought Sky could tell how many viewers watched not just via those boxes.

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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over 10 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

Just killed Sky Sports this morning - read my comments on other thread.

Interestingly.  I've been thinking.

Sky pay more than the rumoured 180k - I've had that confirmed from reliables sources. 

Plus Sky do coverage of all the Phoenix matches at a cost of up to 40k a Game.  I reckon that means Sky are effectively paying between 800 and 900k for the rights each season, not the pittance witch Gallop and his cohorts would have you believe.

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over 10 years ago

How are the Neilson boxes setup to record viewing numbers? How do they know if someone is watching tv or has just left it on and left the room? Are they only for Sky subscribers or all households? (and if it is only Sky, does it include the Vodafone cable network? Plenty of Wellingtonians would be watching the Phoenix on that)

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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over 10 years ago

I'm pretty sure sky can tell how many people are watching a channel at any given time.

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over 10 years ago

Hard News wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Just killed Sky Sports this morning - read my comments on other thread.

Interestingly.  I've been thinking.

Sky pay more than the rumoured 180k - I've had that confirmed from reliables sources. 

Plus Sky do coverage of all the Phoenix matches at a cost of up to 40k a Game.  I reckon that means Sky are effectively paying between 800 and 900k for the rights each season, not the pittance witch Gallop and his cohorts would have you believe.

Journo, papers??



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over 10 years ago · edited over 10 years ago · History

Hard News wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Just killed Sky Sports this morning - read my comments on other thread.

Interestingly.  I've been thinking.

Sky pay more than the rumoured 180k - I've had that confirmed from reliables sources. Ok so $200k NZ dollars.

Plus Sky do coverage of all the Phoenix matches at a cost of up to 40k a Game.  I reckon that means Sky are effectively paying between 800 and 900k for the rights each season, not the pittance witch Gallop and his cohorts would have you believe.

The coverage from SKY has been cheap"O forever, What do they charge for turning on the lights $35000?. Even the Aussies wanting us to stay in the league hate the SKY coverage and can see its cheap"O. There is no way in this world SKY's total input would be close to $800k. Whoever told you that hard news is blowing wind up ya date.

But if I am wrong - Why is SKY not correcting or putting the FFA / Gallop into place??.

Mr Positive

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over 10 years ago · edited over 10 years ago · History

Bring back Dennis Katsanos! 



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over 10 years ago

What we need is more Dennis.

(all jokes aside, the bloke is gold)

a.haak

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over 10 years ago

I hope the lads win it, be a great Birthday present.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 10 years ago · edited over 10 years ago · History

Guys...it's spelled Nielsen, not Neilson?

Just the same when Dane Nielsen went to the Warriors.

Dane Neilson and Dane Neilsen. A rarity that anyone actually bothered spelling the name correctly.

(Sorry, I know it's not the end of the world, but it does my head in, especially at the moment, where it looks like my club will be gone by the end of this season)

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over 10 years ago

Drunk_Monk wrote:

I'm pretty sure sky can tell how many people are watching a channel at any given time.

Well, they might be able to tell what channel is selected on the sky box but that doesn't mean someone is watching it or even that the tv is turned on.

Unless they're sneaking spy cameras into people's houses when they're doing the installation.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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over 10 years ago

Tin Foil hats at the ready !

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 10 years ago

Drunk_Monk wrote:

I'm pretty sure sky can tell how many people are watching a channel at any given time.

Well, they might be able to tell what channel is selected on the sky box but that doesn't mean someone is watching it or even that the tv is turned on.

Unless they're sneaking spy cameras into people's houses when they're doing the installation.

Curses! I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you pesky meddling kids.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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over 10 years ago

valeo wrote:

Staggers my mind that huge decisions like this are still made based off completely antiquated technology.

I'm sure digital boxes keep track of this data and send it discreetly so I'm sure the likes of Sky NZ/UK, FOXTEL, Virgin Media etc have a good idea of what's being watched, recorded etc.

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over 10 years ago

I heard an interview with the big cheese from Sky who said they know which channel all their decoders are tuned to.  Also, they know if you have MYSky'ed a program and when you subsequently view it.  Interestingly, if you record a game/program and watch it within a week of the original air date it gets counted in the viewership figures.

I wouldn't be surprised if they can tell the difference between a decoder being on a particular channel and the tv is on or off.  I'm pretty sure if you try to change the channel on Sky when the TV is off nothing happens.  Therefore the decoder knows when the tv is on/off, therefore Sky know when the tv is on/off.  

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over 10 years ago

Rosco wrote:

I heard an interview with the big cheese from Sky who said they know which channel all their decoders are tuned to.  Also, they know if you have MYSky'ed a program and when you subsequently view it.  Interestingly, if you record a game/program and watch it within a week of the original air date it gets counted in the viewership figures.

I wouldn't be surprised if they can tell the difference between a decoder being on a particular channel and the tv is on or off.  I'm pretty sure if you try to change the channel on Sky when the TV is off nothing happens.  Therefore the decoder knows when the tv is on/off, therefore Sky know when the tv is on/off.  

You can absolutely change the channel with the TV off, just not with the decoder off.

so the decoder will probably send data when it is on, and when it is off, it stops sending data.  But most people who change to watching something form a hardrive or a 3rd party device like a chromecast and leave the decoder running will probably show up as viewers for whatever crap is playing in the background.

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over 10 years ago

danepak wrote:

Guys...it's spelled Nielsen, not Neilson?

Just the same when Dane Nielsen went to the Warriors.

Dane Neilson and Dane Neilsen. A rarity that anyone actually bothered spelling the name correctly.

(Sorry, I know it's not the end of the world, but it does my head in, especially at the moment, where it looks like my club will be gone by the end of this season)

Sorry bro.



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Drunk_Monk wrote:

Rosco wrote:

I heard an interview with the big cheese from Sky who said they know which channel all their decoders are tuned to.  Also, they know if you have MYSky'ed a program and when you subsequently view it.  Interestingly, if you record a game/program and watch it within a week of the original air date it gets counted in the viewership figures.

I wouldn't be surprised if they can tell the difference between a decoder being on a particular channel and the tv is on or off.  I'm pretty sure if you try to change the channel on Sky when the TV is off nothing happens.  Therefore the decoder knows when the tv is on/off, therefore Sky know when the tv is on/off.  

You can absolutely change the channel with the TV off, just not with the decoder off.

Really?  I thought you couldn't.  Right that's it, I'm taking the afternoon off work to go home and double check!

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over 10 years ago

Rosco wrote:

Drunk_Monk wrote:

Rosco wrote:

I heard an interview with the big cheese from Sky who said they know which channel all their decoders are tuned to.  Also, they know if you have MYSky'ed a program and when you subsequently view it.  Interestingly, if you record a game/program and watch it within a week of the original air date it gets counted in the viewership figures.

I wouldn't be surprised if they can tell the difference between a decoder being on a particular channel and the tv is on or off.  I'm pretty sure if you try to change the channel on Sky when the TV is off nothing happens.  Therefore the decoder knows when the tv is on/off, therefore Sky know when the tv is on/off.  

You can absolutely change the channel with the TV off, just not with the decoder off.

Really?  I thought you couldn't.  Right that's it, I'm taking the afternoon off work to go home and double check!


You can. I was recording something with the TV off and didn't want to turn it on coz I knew it was on the channel I was recording. My flatmate looked at me like I was nuts and said I could change it while tv was off coz the sky box was on and it has no connection to the TV itself...if that makes sense

End of an era.  Vinnie - It's over.

If anyone cares for my inane babbling follow @iluvnix17 on the Twitter.

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over 10 years ago

Might depend on what version of HDMI your TV has.

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over 10 years ago
Another way sky gets it's rating numbers is by calling up households and asking if they watched the game.

wellingtonista and benfiquista 

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over 10 years ago

That seems really scientific.

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