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over 12 years ago

not lookining smooth on that counter yet... Lia skipping past players!?! winning free kicks? Whats going on? Evidence of a coach getting something out of his players that you might not expect...

perth looking much better streaming forward, we are often checking our momentum



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over 12 years ago

Carlos' free kicks since signing have been so bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 12 years ago

His shots that is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 12 years ago
martinb wrote:

not lookining smooth on that counter yet... Lia skipping past players!?! winning free kicks? Whats going on? Evidence of a coach getting something out of his players that you might not expect...

perth looking much better streaming forward, we are often checking our momentum

That last line is about right. When we are on the ball, we look pretty decent. When we are not, we are lost at sea.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago

Caira is a very poor crosser of the ball. Shouldn't be putting those behind.

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over 12 years ago

I was actually just writing that post while they scored. Didn't blame Carlos for the goal. He just doesn't look like he has the usual vision today. And he butchered that free kick.
Maybe it's because he hasn't shaved
and looks like a hobo...but he hasn't impressed me so far


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over 12 years ago

Muscat, Riera, and Lia are staying too narrow on defence IMO. In a 4-3-1-2 when the opposition attack down the wing the nearest player of that midfield 3 should slide across to provide extra support to the fullback. To be fair though, we haven't played this formation much and they're probably still getting used to the positioning.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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over 12 years ago
Steve-O wrote:

Carlos' free kicks since signing have been so bad.



Yeah, a bit frustrating, since I can remember at least two humdingers he scored against us.
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over 12 years ago

Still a bit pre-season on attack. 



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over 12 years ago

Muscat, Riera, and Lia are staying too narrow on defence IMO. In a 4-3-1-2 when the opposition attack down the wing the nearest player of that midfield 3 should slide across to provide extra support to the fullback. To be fair though, we haven't played this formation much and they're probably still getting used to the positioning.

I had a very similar thought. They don't slide very well as a unit.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:
martinb wrote:

not lookining smooth on that counter yet... Lia skipping past players!?! winning free kicks? Whats going on? Evidence of a coach getting something out of his players that you might not expect...

perth looking much better streaming forward, we are often checking our momentum

That last line is about right. When we are on the ball, we look pretty decent. When we are not, we are lost at sea.

Goals come from having a man advantage somewhere and exploiting it with quick ball movement and options that puts defenders in two minds or by beating players and dragging them out of position...Or by Brockie shooting from somewhere...
I think we've looked good moving the ball around in the middle third and in front of the box, havent created much yet and have been a bit of a worry at the back...


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over 12 years ago

What was the point of that?? 2 yards for the ref to waste 30 secs... Refs have an issue with players that time waste and then they do it themselves... GTFO

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago
martinb wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
martinb wrote:

not lookining smooth on that counter yet... Lia skipping past players!?! winning free kicks? Whats going on? Evidence of a coach getting something out of his players that you might not expect...

perth looking much better streaming forward, we are often checking our momentum

That last line is about right. When we are on the ball, we look pretty decent. When we are not, we are lost at sea.


Goals come from having a man advantage somewhere and exploiting it with quick ball movement and options that puts defenders in two minds or by beating players and dragging them out of position...Or by Brockie shooting from somewhere...

I think we've looked good moving the ball around in the middle third and in front of the box, havent created much yet and have been a bit of a worry at the back...

Moss has been the busier keeper vs Vuko.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago

Man when Perth work the flanks they create good opportunities.


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over 12 years ago

But showing the ability to hold possesion if we want to is a positive. 

Jameson > Caira or Fenton, and is getting more space and better service





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over 12 years ago

Yeah at least they are not coming through the middle this week but then we know that Caira and Fenton are WIP......

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago

1st 10 pretty good, the rest was very average -would like to see Ifill on now

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over 12 years ago

Seriously need to up the tempo here! So slow getting forward!

Very dull first half IMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 12 years ago

Not much to excited about. That's just about the quietest A League crowd I've ever heard.

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over 12 years ago

I wonder if we will see Ifill in for Carlos. He seemed to be limping towards the end of the game. Hopefully just a knock. Ideally I'd like to see them both on at the same time.


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over 12 years ago

Again, don't think Brockie and Huysegems complement each other. We lose something as a team when they play. With Hicks on for one of them we create more chances...

Would like to see us move to a one striker system with either Hicks or Kenny coming in...and at least two midfielders looking to get into the box...

perhaps they are going to prove me wrong- Come on Phoenix, Come on Christchurch!



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over 12 years ago
Munk wrote:

1st 10 pretty good, the rest was very average -would like to see Ifill on now



Said the same thing myself. In fact the first 20 mins was one of the most boring starts to any game.(apart from the 1-0)

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 12 years ago


Have to say Ernie's getting more out of Lia than Herbert has for last 2 years. But will be glad when this WC things over. Nothing changes. Can't judge till they've got their "pre-season" over, and back at Westpac. Can win this game though. Get a few players on who aren't on the jet to LA tonight. 

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over 12 years ago
Leggy wrote:
Munk wrote:

1st 10 pretty good, the rest was very average -would like to see Ifill on now



Said the same thing myself. In fact the first 20 mins was one of the most boring starts to any game.(apart from the 1-0)


Is this the same Leggy that said Ifill was finished or are you talking about the first 20 mins of the game?

With such a slow defense and open midfield it's completely suited to Ifill.


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over 12 years ago
Leggy wrote:
Munk wrote:

1st 10 pretty good, the rest was very average -would like to see Ifill on now



Said the same thing myself. In fact the first 20 mins was one of the most boring starts to any game.(apart from the 1-0)


Is this the same Leggy that said Ifill was finished or are you talking about the first 20 mins of the game?

With such a slow defense and open midfield it's completely suited to Ifill.


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over 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:

How is that goal the fault of Lia or Carlos' passing????? People need to watch whats going on and ditch these preconceived ideas.


Fenton got caught out of position (again)


Fenton was out of position because he was forced to push up on Jamieson as no one else was marking him. Terrible defending by Sigmund. Sciola was going nowhere if Sigmund had just held his ground rather than pushing up.
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over 12 years ago

Sitting behind Nix goal I have to say Fenton gets confused too often who to mark. Too many successful plays for Perth from his side of of the field.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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over 12 years ago
RichieRich wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

How is that goal the fault of Lia or Carlos' passing????? People need to watch whats going on and ditch these preconceived ideas.


Fenton got caught out of position (again)


Fenton was out of position because he was forced to push up on Jamieson as no one else was marking him. Terrible defending by Sigmund. Sciola was going nowhere if Sigmund had just held his ground rather than pushing up.



Whatever it is we are getting murdered down that flank.

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over 12 years ago
RichieRich wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

How is that goal the fault of Lia or Carlos' passing????? People need to watch whats going on and ditch these preconceived ideas.


Fenton got caught out of position (again)


Fenton was out of position because he was forced to push up on Jamieson as no one else was marking him. Terrible defending by Sigmund. Sciola was going nowhere if Sigmund had just held his ground rather than pushing up.

You cannot hold Sigmund responsible for that as he got dragged out of position himself to cover Fenton and is not noted for his foot speed. Should have slide in though and left his feet in the box which is amateur.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago

Fenton needed to get dragged. Good sub to make.

Lia has contributed well I thought.

I say again. We look decent with the ball, without it, clueless. The sub should help.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago

Hope we a up the tempo a bit this 2nd half. We need to win this game if we have any serious pretensions to making the top 6.

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over 12 years ago
ForteanTimes wrote:
RichieRich wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

How is that goal the fault of Lia or Carlos' passing????? People need to watch whats going on and ditch these preconceived ideas.


Fenton got caught out of position (again)


Fenton was out of position because he was forced to push up on Jamieson as no one else was marking him. Terrible defending by Sigmund. Sciola was going nowhere if Sigmund had just held his ground rather than pushing up.



Whatever it is we are getting murdered down that flank.
Down both flanks but more importantly, its the second week on the trot that Fenton has looked lost at RB. That could be harsh coming back from injury but there is no room for sentiment in professional football.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago
martinb wrote:

Again, don't think Brockie and Huysegems complement each other. We lose something as a team when they play. With Hicks on for one of them we create more chances...

Would like to see us move to a one striker system with either Hicks or Kenny coming in...and at least two midfielders looking to get into the box...

perhaps they are going to prove me wrong- Come on Phoenix, Come on Christchurch!

Kenny not on bench today.

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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over 12 years ago

Lia. Not even once.

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over 12 years ago
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Kenny at the beach today.

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over 12 years ago

who did Hicks replace?

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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over 12 years ago

Lia is still horrendous IMO. That terrible effort before summing up his capabilities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 12 years ago

Can't believe they are doing the way to go chant... apalling.

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over 12 years ago

god i like hicks


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over 12 years ago
Boro4eva wrote:

who did Hicks replace?



Fenton
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