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— Wellington Phoenix 🔥 (@WgtnPhoenixFC) September 5, 2024
Tickets are on sale for Aotearoa's first-ever professional football derby! 🙌
Back your Phoenix men on Saturday November 2, as we take on Auckland FC in the Kiwi Clasico 🐦🔥
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As much as I think it would be a better name, I couldn't imagine trying to get Australian commentators to say Te Ika-a-Māui
Then why not just stick with the "New Zealand Derby"?
It works, sounds alright, and I doubt any Aussie commentators would be stumbling over their words tryna say it
It works, sounds alright, and I doubt any Aussie commentators would be stumbling over their words tryna say it
El Sheep Shaggio seems to be the popular name in the a-leagues instagram comments.
El Sheep Shaggio seems to be the popular name in the a-leagues instagram comments.
I prefer this to kiwi Classico.
I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological.
God I hope Kiwi Clasico is a placeholder name
Sadly it appears to be what they are officially running with. A few Fever Elites were pushing the 'Te Ika Derby' name, if you want an unofficial alternative.
The Fish Derby is infinitely worse than Kiwi Classico
God I hope Kiwi Clasico is a placeholder name
Sadly it appears to be what they are officially running with. A few Fever Elites were pushing the 'Te Ika Derby' name, if you want an unofficial alternative.
The Fish Derby is infinitely worse than Kiwi Classico
Marketing 101. Keep it short, simple and easy to remember for the general populace. Kiwi Clasico it will likely be on the billboards and TV ads (especially yes in Oz).
Te Ika-a-Māui Shield not a bad trophy name, up for grabs with every derby game. Though I'd like some silverware with a Rufer family link.
Wynton (Ngāti Porou) is NZ's greatest ever footballer, and in our typical understated Kiwi way that hasn't been celebrated nearly enough. He captained Auckland's pro football team version 1. Plus his nephew is now a confirmed Nix legend. Get Wynton to at least hand over the Te Ika-a-Māui trophy to the victorious captain after each derby game. Draws the holder retains it.
Te Ika-a-Māui Shield not a bad trophy name, up for grabs with every derby game. Though I'd like some silverware with a Rufer family link.
Wynton (Ngāti Porou) is NZ's greatest ever footballer, and in our typical understated Kiwi way that hasn't been celebrated nearly enough. He captained Auckland's pro football team version 1. Plus his nephew is now a confirmed Nix legend. Get Wynton to at least hand over the Te Ika-a-Māui trophy to the victorious captain after each derby game. Draws the holder retains it.
Kiwi Clasico announced as the "official" name. God forbid we name it something that isn't a cringe inducing, direct rip off of another football game.
Hope no one except the clubs ever call it that. I won't be.
Hope no one except the clubs ever call it that. I won't be.
If you look Stateside. Lots of the MLS derbies have a variation on the Clasico moniker
Kiwi Clasico announced as the "official" name. God forbid we name it something that isn't a cringe inducing, direct rip off of another football game.
Hope no one except the clubs ever call it that. I won't be.
Hope no one except the clubs ever call it that. I won't be.
If you look Stateside. Lots of the MLS derbies have a variation on the Clasico moniker
There are a lot of Mexican (spanish speaking) links in the US/MLS though. Feels unnatural in this part of the world.
Kiwi Clasico announced as the "official" name. God forbid we name it something that isn't a cringe inducing, direct rip off of another football game.
Hope no one except the clubs ever call it that. I won't be.
Hope no one except the clubs ever call it that. I won't be.
If you look Stateside. Lots of the MLS derbies have a variation on the Clasico moniker
Embarrassing, isn't it?
Valley FC til I die?
Yeah "kiwi clasico" is such an awful name. Did the phoenix unilaterally call it that? I haven't seen anything from AFC calling it that
Kiwi Classico to appeal to the casuals.
Sure it’s kinda dumb, and there’s no Aussie Ranfurly Shield etc etc, but it’s punchy and up beat for new fans.
It does preclude it making its own kind of identity, but if the football rises above the name it won’t matter.
Northern Soul Derby? Coffee Country Derby (Mojo, Havana v Allpress, Atomic)? The Lawless Wood Derby? Battle of the Bays?
Sure it’s kinda dumb, and there’s no Aussie Ranfurly Shield etc etc, but it’s punchy and up beat for new fans.
It does preclude it making its own kind of identity, but if the football rises above the name it won’t matter.
Northern Soul Derby? Coffee Country Derby (Mojo, Havana v Allpress, Atomic)? The Lawless Wood Derby? Battle of the Bays?
I don't know why we have to name it anything, just let it do it's thing organically and don't force it.
The official name for the derby between @WgtnPhoenixFC and @fc_auckland is here and it’s brilliant 🇳🇿🤩
— Isuzu UTE A-League (@aleaguemen) September 5, 2024
Tickets are on sale NOW for the first-ever Kiwi Clasico. Get yours now 👉 https://t.co/eLAGbGvXUG pic.twitter.com/f42axqrCrI
Domey says over half the cheap tickets are sold already.
Could it sell out?
Regardless these games (especially this season), are going to be like nothing seen on the NZ sporting landscape before.
The rugby community & media, are going to be in for quite a shock I reckon.
Domey says over half the cheap tickets are sold already.
Could it sell out?
Regardless these games (especially this season), are going to be like nothing seen on the NZ sporting landscape before.
The rugby community & media, are going to be in for quite a shock I reckon.
Only 4 bays (24U, 24C, 25U, 25C) have the $15 tickets. Domey didn't give a total number for how many tickets were available, so maybe they just leave it on until they fill those bays.
They were gonna be available for 72 hours but I doubt it lasts that long.
Not fussed by using Clasico as a word but Kiwi Clasico has a certain ring to it. I can see the casuals and media getting behind it.
Kiwi Derby doesn’t work….IMO. Derby to me is an Aussie expression.
I had the pleasure of watching the real El Clasico in a bar in Barcelona earlier this year. The whole of Spain shuts down to watch Barca vs Real. I think the Kiwi Clasico is going to become a huge part of the NZ sporting landscape.
Kiwi Derby doesn’t work….IMO. Derby to me is an Aussie expression.
I had the pleasure of watching the real El Clasico in a bar in Barcelona earlier this year. The whole of Spain shuts down to watch Barca vs Real. I think the Kiwi Clasico is going to become a huge part of the NZ sporting landscape.
Kiwi Clasico announced as the "official" name. God forbid we name it something that isn't a cringe inducing, direct rip off of another football game.
Hope no one except the clubs ever call it that. I won't be.
Hope no one except the clubs ever call it that. I won't be.
If you look Stateside. Lots of the MLS derbies have a variation on the Clasico moniker
Embarrassing, isn't it?
El Trafico has to be the worst. The literal translation is "The Traffic".
Three for me, and two for them.
"Kiwi Clasico" is cringe a.f. and is a marketing slogan chosen from above, but so is "The P0rt" and that seems to have stuck
Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
Don’t shoot me down! But do we need to lift our game in the active zone? I see a lot of noise coming from the port already. Banners, Flags, chants, away trips planned. Do we need to have a rethink on how to take the active zone forward? Or are we happy as it is? Friendly thoughts team.
Let me know when they come up with a chant as good as "we've got the ball!"...... Let alone "We've lost the ball!"
Don’t shoot me down! But do we need to lift our game in the active zone? I see a lot of noise coming from the port already. Banners, Flags, chants, away trips planned. Do we need to have a rethink on how to take the active zone forward? Or are we happy as it is? Friendly thoughts team.
Each to their own I'd say. Get the feeling from afar that the Port is an older demographic on average than the Yellow Fever, with plenty of middle aged Englishmen. So hence the love of making up a flag and draping it from a stand.
But hey that's want you want some differences, and the Away fans at these derby games making their presence felt.
On the derby name thing, I must be an out of touch dinosaur as I don't find Kiwi Clasico hugely cringe. But then I've never been adverse to cringe as a rule. To me it's a bit take the piss. Like Flight of the Conchords was sort of modelled off Kiwi kitsch.
Here in Aussie, home of 'The Big Blue' I don't doubt it will catch on as the moniker for NZ's derby. This isn't Europe with serious proper club rivalries going back over 100 years, and football by far the dominant sport in town. Like the MLS we have start up franchise teams playing the code, in very competitive sports markets, where big marketing is required to win a fan's hard earned dollar. If Clasico sales pitch help grab the casuals attention so be it.
Actually I think the NZ derbies will garner a bit of interest here in Oztraylia. Novelty not seen in other comps with NZ teams like the NRL and NBL. Two Aussie coaches, some well known Oz players at AFC, mid afternoon AEDT kick offs with likely not much else on the telly, except some horses running around in circles, and the Baggy Greens thrashing whoever.
Let me know when they come up with a chant as good as "we've got the ball!"...... Let alone "We've lost the ball!"
Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
Let me know when they come up with a chant as good as "we've got the ball!"...... Let alone "We've lost the ball!"
Let me know when they come up with a chant as good as "we've got the ball!"...... Let alone "We've lost the ball!"
Super left-wing ultras who want Auckland fc support to be similar to St. Pauli ultras. They made this big post on reddit a bit ago laying out their ideas of being super left-wing. One thing they apparently hated was capitalism and mega-rich dudes which is hilarious when they're owned by a foreign billionaire with stakes in 3 other clubs in Europe
Let me know when they come up with a chant as good as "we've got the ball!"...... Let alone "We've lost the ball!"
Chants against apartheid which isnt a thing in NZ and never really has been......ooook
Queenslander 3x a year.
Let me know when they come up with a chant as good as "we've got the ball!"...... Let alone "We've lost the ball!"
Super left-wing ultras who want Auckland fc support to be similar to St. Pauli ultras. They made this big post on reddit a bit ago laying out their ideas of being super left-wing. One thing they apparently hated was capitalism and mega-rich dudes which is hilarious when they're owned by a foreign billionaire with stakes in 3 other clubs in Europe
Let me know when they come up with a chant as good as "we've got the ball!"...... Let alone "We've lost the ball!"
Not gonna lie, I absolutely love this chant. I have a blast every time.
Wish we had it during some of the rougher seasons when there were some hard watch games. Sure we had always look on the bright side of life and singing some queen, but we've got the ball... we've lost the ball goes for longer and makes me giggle.
New chant then: Our owners are more woke than yours.
Infratil mentions decarbonisation repeatedly as part of their investment starategy as well as healthcare and elder care. When Gareth had a political party he ran on a platform of Universal Basic Income and getting rid of cats.
Infratil mentions decarbonisation repeatedly as part of their investment starategy as well as healthcare and elder care. When Gareth had a political party he ran on a platform of Universal Basic Income and getting rid of cats.
Only 20 seats left in 25C when I looked just before. Would be nice if we could get 1 bay sold out in this promo.
New chant then: Our owners are more woke than yours.
Infratil mentions decarbonisation repeatedly as part of their investment starategy as well as healthcare and elder care. When Gareth had a political party he ran on a platform of Universal Basic Income and getting rid of cats.
Infratil mentions decarbonisation repeatedly as part of their investment starategy as well as healthcare and elder care. When Gareth had a political party he ran on a platform of Universal Basic Income and getting rid of cats.
What I liked best about Lloyd Morrison was his laudable goal, to try stop NZ's decline down the OECD wealth rankings, ie make Aotearoa a richer country. He knew from that, the country could then have better education, better healthcare, less crime, improved infrastructure etc etc. Sadly that turnaround ain't happening soon.
Even though yeah he donated to Trump, Foley (or Bournemouth) have their own little green projects
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cjjw88jeygwo
Let me know when they come up with a chant as good as "we've got the ball!"...... Let alone "We've lost the ball!"
Chants against apartheid which isnt a thing in NZ and never really has been......ooook
… Still haven’t looked into the African Olympic boycott then?
Or looked at the changing graph of Maori land post the Maori land court?
As much fun as it is to discuss this over again…