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Feverish wrote:
Phoenix fans doubtful WGA will save Terry

Fans of Terry Serepisos� football team the Wellington Phoenix have reacted with dismay to the future of the club appearing to hinge on a loan deal with Western Gulf Advisory.

The National Business Review broke the news Mr Serepisos was seeking a loan from WGA a fortnight ago, and today the troubled property developer publicly confirmed this news as well as his plans to sell half of the Phoenix to WGA founder Ahsan Ali Syed.

But contributors to the Phoenix�s internet forum Yellow Fever this morning were skeptical the deal would save Mr Serepisos or his football team.

�Whitehartlane� questioned why anyone would lend Mr Serepisos money: �Why would this foreign guy get involved in a string of companies debt ridden, ($9 million at last count) and losing money hand over fist?

"Coupled with Terry obviously having little or no equity in his properties, hence needing offshore financial help to bail him out, it would be the worst investment around. I don't get it and it worries me.�

�James Dean� expressed concern the Phoenix were being conflated with Mr Serepisos� business woes: �The more I think about this the more worried/annoyed I get. There is absolutely no reason for this guy [Mr Ali], who is being brought in to recapitalise Terry�s business need to take a stake in the Phoenix.�

'Ard Righ' was more blunt: "Terry is in deep sh*t if he has to restructure everything to someone in Zurich."

Meanwhile some were hopeful a tie-in with Spanish La Liga team Racing Santander, which Mr took control over last month, would boost performance on the pitch.

�Luis Garcia� said: �Let�s hope they give us some loan players. Spanish right-back and striker please.�

�Leyton Orient� said: �While it�s not unusual for the rest of Europe to have to bail out the Greeks, I never expected salvation to come from Spain.�

Another poster, in reply, said: �It hasn�t.�


Good lord - was that in print or just on their website?

Normo's coming home

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james dean wrote:
If the club fails, his rep is damaged more than ever. [/QUOTE]
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What rep?
--> whatever rep you think it is and then smash it to pieces.
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[QUOTE=AllWhitebelievr] I give him reasonable doubt as long as the club is supported and looked after, we have little choice but to give it support.
You're right here...but I still think we can at least try and answer the hard questions about what is actually going on
--> fair enough, it a painful wait to see the light (or darkness) at the end of the tunnel. We probably wouldn't get into the fine details but certain strategies would have to be shown sooner or later and hopefully for the fans there is some transparence and confidence building for the fans unlike to what happen to the NZ Knights franchise.
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james dean wrote:

Good lord - was that in print or just on their website?


Dunno, I'm just still shock that Feverish subscribed to NBR to get that info.

But that is very sad that they have to pull off post on this website especially for the angst and then paint a bleak naysay info to create confusion and feed the doubt to the masses. We are just a bunch of fans querying about it and they turn it around to scaremonger the poor ill-informed masses. Isn't it bad enough that we ourselves are poorly informed and re-quoted like we are local experts. We are not that classy.
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My quote made it into the NBR? Bahahahahahahahaha.

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I hope that article made it to print although even by the NBR's standards I suspect it is a tad too amateur.

You can quote me on that too NBR, although please attribute it to Arsenal this time, instead of (the very humorous) Leyton Orient. Arsenal2011-02-24 08:02:41

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Sooo if this is all has farkin dodgy as it seems and all turns to custard, are there many other esteemed New Zealand businessmen/women who'd try their hand at owning the Phoenix?

You'll never beat The Salmon!

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ashby wrote:
Sooo if this is all has farkin dodgy as it seems and all turns to custard, are there many other esteemed New Zealand businessmen/women who'd try their hand at owning the Phoenix?
 
The Mongrel Mob are very wealthy. Not sure where their money comes from, but if they can stump up cash to save the club ...
 
Perhaps someone should talk to their leader. 
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scribbler wrote:
 
ashby wrote:
Sooo if this is all has farkin dodgy as it seems and all turns to custard, are there many other esteemed New Zealand businessmen/women who'd try their hand at owning the Phoenix?
 
The Mongrel Mob are very wealthy. Not sure where their money comes from, but if they can stump up cash to save the club ...
 
Perhaps someone should talk to their leader. 
 
 
Oooooh. I can see that one going straight into the next NBR article.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Jag wrote:
scribbler wrote:
 
ashby wrote:
Sooo if this is all has farkin dodgy as it seems and all turns to custard, are there many other esteemed New Zealand businessmen/women who'd try their hand at owning the Phoenix?
 
The Mongrel Mob are very wealthy. Not sure where their money comes from, but if they can stump up cash to save the club ...
 
Perhaps someone should talk to their leader. 
 
 
Oooooh. I can see that one going straight into the next NBR article.


Ill informed sources say that the fore mentioned party " would prefer to concentrate on their lucrative core business activities of pharmaceutical distribution,debt collection and neighbourhood security services and enforcement, and adult entertainment services,which are enjoying boom times. Discretionary spending on family and sports entertainment in this economic climate is at an all time low and frankly aint worth  sh*t."
You can have that  for free too   NBR.
RedGed2011-02-24 10:48:44

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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RedGed wrote:
Jag wrote:
scribbler wrote:
 
ashby wrote:
Sooo if this is all has farkin dodgy as it seems and all turns to custard, are there many other esteemed New Zealand businessmen/women who'd try their hand at owning the Phoenix?
 
The Mongrel Mob are very wealthy. Not sure where their money comes from, but if they can stump up cash to save the club ...
 
Perhaps someone should talk to their leader. 
 
 
Oooooh. I can see that one going straight into the next NBR article.


Ill informed sources say that the fore mentioned party " would prefer to concentrate on their lucrative core business activities of pharmaceutical distribution,debt collection and neighbourhood security services and enforcement, and adult entertainment services,which are enjoying boom times. Discretionary spending on family and sports entertainment in this economic climate is at an all time low and frankly aint worth  sh*t."
You can have that  for free too   NBR.
 
 
" An un-named  Club spokesman stated on the Yellow Fever website that "this a lucrative opportunity and will not only secure our financial future but will give us a foothold in markets that were not previously open to us. The fact that we will not be able to play games in Wanganui is a small price to pay..."
 
Jag2011-02-24 11:28:32

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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As long as we don't change our strip to any red sh!t.
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

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Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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Club announces new membership seating:
 
FZ will now be the patched zone
There will be no family zone
Silver membership will now be called prospects
Corporate Lounge will now be the Presidents Lounge
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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Junior82 wrote:
 
There will be no family zone
 
Child Youth and Family Zone.
 
Too far?

Fuck this stupid game

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Half time refreshments, shall we go there?
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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Junior82 wrote:
As long as we don't change our strip to any red sh!t.
 
 
 
Dont play for Tawa then?
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Play???

Have enough trouble keeping up with 10 yo Jnr Jnr (and he's no speedster)
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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Junior82 wrote:
As long as we don't change our strip to any red sh!t.

 
 


Go Redder!!! whoops ....wrong thread!
'ere.Kop a loada that  ^ What's wrong with Red then??
RedGed2011-02-24 14:05:10

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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Scouse red is OK.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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Funny how the headlines in the Doom post were " 50% of the Nix to be sold to....." When you read the last paragraph in the article the RS guy says something like " I would like to help Terry out by introduce some liquidity into the club, which could be in terms of sponsorship or if that was not an option then a part ownership maybe another option"
So as it stands part ownership is only an option. Which is completely different from the heading of the article. You can see why journalists are widely regarded by the public as one step up from child molestors and parking meter attendents.
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Jag wrote:
RedGed wrote:
Jag wrote:
scribbler wrote:
 
ashby wrote:
Sooo if this is all has farkin dodgy as it seems and all turns to custard, are there many other esteemed New Zealand businessmen/women who'd try their hand at owning the Phoenix?
 
The Mongrel Mob are very wealthy. Not sure where their money comes from, but if they can stump up cash to save the club ...
 
Perhaps someone should talk to their leader. 
 
 
Oooooh. I can see that one going straight into the next NBR article.


Ill informed sources say that the fore mentioned party " would prefer to concentrate on their lucrative core business activities of pharmaceutical distribution,debt collection and neighbourhood security services and enforcement, and adult entertainment services,which are enjoying boom times. Discretionary spending on family and sports entertainment in this economic climate is at an all time low and frankly aint worth  sh*t."
You can have that  for free too   NBR.
 
 
" An un-named  Club spokesman stated on the Yellow Fever website that "this a lucrative opportunity and will not only secure our financial future but will give us a foothold in markets that were not previously open to us. The fact that we will not be able to play games in Wanganui is a small price to pay..."
 
 
Whanganui, bro. Whanganui.
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Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I just posted the article!

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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nice comment at the bottom

WGA agrees on debt repayment plan with Spanish government

The man Terry Serepisos is turning to bail out his property empire and football team, Western Gulf Advisory founder Ahsan Ali Syed, has begun paying off debt related to his purchase of La Liga team Racing Santander.

Mr Ali took control of an insolvent Racing Santander in late January, assuming 13 million euros in debt the club holds with the Spanish Treasury, AFP reported.

He "has faced up to Racing's debts with the Treasury and paid part of the debt that was urgent to avoid a seizure of the club," said the finance minister of the northern region of Cantabria, Angel Agudo.

He said Mr Ali had paid around two million euros, and had agreed on a schedule of payments to cover the rest of the debt.

Mr Ali was described in the reports as an "Indian billionaire".

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Thats where Terrys application money went.

Anonoymous | Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 4:46pm

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Feverish wrote:

nice comment at the bottom

WGA agrees on debt repayment plan with Spanish government

The man Terry Serepisos is turning to bail out his property empire and football team, Western Gulf Advisory founder Ahsan Ali Syed, has begun paying off debt related to his purchase of La Liga team Racing Santander.

Mr Ali took control of an insolvent Racing Santander in late January, assuming 13 million euros in debt the club holds with the Spanish Treasury, AFP reported.

He "has faced up to Racing's debts with the Treasury and paid part of the debt that was urgent to avoid a seizure of the club," said the finance minister of the northern region of Cantabria, Angel Agudo.

He said Mr Ali had paid around two million euros, and had agreed on a schedule of payments to cover the rest of the debt.

Mr Ali was described in the reports as an "Indian billionaire".

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Thats where Terrys application money went.

Anonoymous | Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 4:46pm

 
I want to tell my very best new friends, Yellow Beaver, that I am very happy to be buying your very famous football team, Salamander Penix.
 
It will be a very happy marriage between me and my very best new friend, Tenny Verrypeesos.
Oh, we will have lots of food and dancing and jolly Bollywood singing.
 
When that is finished my jolly good cheque will be coming in your very esteemed mail.
 
Salami.
 
 
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http://twitter.com/5LInvestigates/status/40404874176761857

On the Rovers board, BRFCS.com, that tweet was pointed out in the thread about Ali Syed buying Racing Santander. Its from Adrian Goldberg, a journo for BBC 5Live Investigates. Im guessing its about us, so might be something in the papers soon.
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Junior82 wrote:
As long as we don't change our strip to any red sh!t. 
 
New Phoenix Away Kit revealed!
 
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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Great. We can get the other Muscat out of retirement and maybe entice Grella over as well - they suit the playing style of that strip.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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Junior82 wrote:
Great. We can get the other Muscat out of retirement and maybe entice Grella over as well - they suit the playing style of that strip.
 
 
And Vinnie Jones can be an Assistant Coach with Paul Gascoine driving the team bus!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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http://twitter.com/5LInvestigates/status/40404874176761857

On the Rovers board, BRFCS.com, that tweet was pointed out in the thread about Ali Syed buying Racing Santander. Its from Adrian Goldberg, a journo for BBC 5Live Investigates. Im guessing its about us, so might be something in the papers soon.
 
Telfer just interviewed him on Radio Sport. Bottom line seems to be that there are a load of question marks about Ali Sayed and a few stories which don't seem to ring true, but nothing definitive to say he's a crook.
 
Goldberg's biggest issue was why Blackburn knocked him back and then agreed a deal with somebody else for a lot less dosh. Kept describing what the 5 Live investigation turned up as 'curious' and described him as 'shadowy'!
 
Said that we should investigate him very thoroughly, and if we're satisfied then go for it. (By 'we' I don't mean Yellow fever, by the way)

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Kept describing what the 5 Live investigation turned up as 'curious' and described him as 'shadowy'!
 
So.  Nothing like the current ownership.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Hard News wrote:
Kept describing what the 5 Live investigation turned up as 'curious' and described him as 'shadowy'!
 
So.  Nothing like the current ownership.
 
Strangely enough, that's exactly what I was thinking when I was listening to it.
 
"plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose"
Jag2011-02-25 09:54:19

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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"There's nowt as queer as folk"

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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Jag wrote:
Hard News wrote:
Kept describing what the 5 Live investigation turned up as 'curious' and described him as 'shadowy'!
 
So.  Nothing like the current ownership.
 
Strangely enough, that's exactly what I was thinking when I was listening to it.
 
"plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose"


*Singing to myself*

"She will always carry on..."(the Wellington Phoenix??)

"Something is lost .." (Rojas??)..."Something is found..."(who???)

da de da de da......

"Some things change, Some stay the same"

Christchurch rocked.Wellington Phoenix too.Head hurts. Need a lie down. Soothe me Chrissie.....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWUfD_32SmY



  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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RG - you're special, so special.
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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Thanks Precious..er, Junior82.With you I know its sincere, not like some of these other pretenders.. RedGed2011-02-25 11:53:47

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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Absolutely RG - you know I'll Stand By You.
 
Don't Get Me Wrong, this isn't a cyber flirt like with Elsie Tanner, I would Never Do That, since we're all red-blooded manly type people. It's just that... hey RG, what's wrong?  Please Stop Your Sobbing...
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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There's just no Middle Of The Road with you? Is there, Kid?

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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It's a thin line between love and hate

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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