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Your big break up with Skippy is still the Talk of The Town, anyway

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Jesus wept, is the whole off season going to be like this?
 
Mods - take control!
 

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terminator_x wrote:
Jesus wept, is the whole off season going to be like this?
 
Mods - take control!
 
 
Oh relax, ffs.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Yeah.
 
Chill (eat em up Jag).
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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Yeah, get the Mods in here. T-X is killing the vibe.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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T-X: "Mods- Shut em down!"

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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By the heck as like
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It's like The Great Transfer Conjecture Thread Hijack of 08, all over again. Disgraceful

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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terminator_x wrote:
Jesus wept, is the whole off season going to be like this?  <snip> 
 
 
Hopefully.
 
 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Jag wrote:
terminator_x wrote:
Jesus wept, is the whole off season going to be like this?  <snip> 
 
 
Hopefully.
 
 
 
Don't Believe the Hype
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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Junior82 wrote:
Jag wrote:
terminator_x wrote:
Jesus wept, is the whole off season going to be like this?  <snip> 
 
 
Hopefully.
 
 
 
Don't Believe the Hype
 
 
 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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ok enough's enough, go play in off topic.  Thread locked until more information surfaces

Normo's coming home

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locked my threaobvoiusly the yellow fever dont want  a fundraiser the way they just d

I LOVE LAMP

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chefmivec wrote:
locked my threaobvoiusly the yellow fever dont want� a fundraiser the way they just d


GET OVER IT
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chefmivec wrote:
locked my threaobvoiusly the yellow fever dont want  a fundraiser the way they just d

... the fuck?
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I'm banking that Terry thinks he can sign up rojas and then flick him on the next day for a few million to pay this guys 20 per cent interest rates. Better sign him up fast Ricki!!

Auckland will rise once more

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You know you really are a terrible troll.
 
 

Allegedly

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AucklandPhoenix wrote:
I'm banking that Terry thinks he can sign up rojas and then flick him on the next day for a few million to pay this guys 20 per cent interest rates. Better sign him up fast Ricki!!
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That is hugely worrying...and is exactly the situation that the NBR alluded to

Normo's coming home

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I wonder if this issue has any bearing on Rojas leaving or not?
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WGA have added the following to their site:

WGA STRONGLY REFUTES FALSE AND DEFAMATORY ALLEGATIONS POSTED BY FRAUDSTERS

Western Gulf Advisory Asset and Wealth Management, Western Gulf Advisory AG based in Zug, Switzerland and their founder and President Mr Ahsan Ali Syed strongly refute allegations about their businesses being propagated by the fraudsters.

The source of these serious allegations is known. They are manifestly false and defamatory.

Western Gulf Advisory Asset and Wealth Management, Western Gulf Advisory AG and their founder and President Mr Ahsan Ali Syed have initiated legal proceedings in this matter.

Furthermore, Western Gulf Advisory Asset and Wealth Management, Western Gulf Advisory AG and Mr Ahsan Ali Syed reserve their rights against authors, editors, publishers, distributers and printers who repeat these allegations in any form; and they expressly reserve their rights against any person or entity which repeats any of the erroneous allegations contained on the website.

www.westerngulfadvisory.com


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Let me be first to say, f**k you you bunch of out and out fraudsters, WGA.
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oh dear. not sounding good    =(


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It's not a good look if there are legal threats as a visual popup on your 'corporate portal', which have misspellings, no.

I really do have to say... If people are paying advance fees to people, and paying these fees not to trust or escrow accounts- then I don't think they should be running football clubs.

Living in hope for a  rescue/new owner.
zonknz2011-03-03 08:17:00
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All the above notwithstanding, if this dude is such a massive and well known crook, how was he allowed to grab a piece of a Spanish club. I would have thought that Santander and the Spanish FA just might have thoroughly checked him out beforehand.
 
To repeat what the 5 Live dude said on the radio last week, there are a lot of question marks about Ali Sayed but no concrete evidence that he is dodgy. Much like our present owner, I suspect.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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I think you mean there is no concrete evidence that WGA have settled any promised/paid for Loans in Australia. There are empty threats from WGA, but no actual legal action.

There is plenty of evidence in the public domain from the BBC, India TV & others of a history of failed companies, incomplete audits, and Flight from debts in Ali's history.

I'm certainly not saying anything about our current owner being dodgy or not - merely that he seems to have been taken for a ride.
zonknz2011-03-03 10:08:35
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Nothing particularly major emerged from BBC 5 Live's investigation on him, according to the 5 Live guy who was interviewed on Radio Sport last week.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Jag wrote:
All the above notwithstanding, if this dude is such a massive and well known crook, how was he allowed to grab a piece of a Spanish club. I would have thought that Santander and the Spanish FA just might have thoroughly checked him out beforehand.
 
To repeat what the 5 Live dude said on the radio last week, there are a lot of question marks about Ali Sayed but no concrete evidence that he is dodgy. Much like our present owner, I suspect.
 
Yeah cos football leagues and clubs the world over are known for their thorough due diligence and sound financial decision making...

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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zonknz wrote:
There is plenty of evidence in the public domain from the BBC, India TV & others of a history of failed companies, incomplete audits, and Flight from debts in Ali's history.I'm certainly not saying anything about our current owner being dodgy or not - merely that he seems to have been taken for a ride.


Well, thank goodness that a multi-millionaire property developer, being so incredibly ignorant about matters of international finance, has an anonymous poster on a football fan forum to tell him right from wrong.

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Smithy wrote:
Jag wrote:
All the above notwithstanding, if this dude is such a massive and well known crook, how was he allowed to grab a piece of a Spanish club. I would have thought that Santander and the Spanish FA just might have thoroughly checked him out beforehand.
 
To repeat what the 5 Live dude said on the radio last week, there are a lot of question marks about Ali Sayed but no concrete evidence that he is dodgy. Much like our present owner, I suspect.
 
Yeah cos football leagues and clubs the world over are known for their thorough due diligence and sound financial decision making...
 
Are they? I don't know, you obviously know more about it than me, Smithy.
 
Alright, you win. That's it, we're completely f**ked. I'll give it a month before the plug gets pulled. We'll all have to go and support bigger and more successful clubs.  (let's see the media use that!)
 
That better?
 
Jag2011-03-03 10:19:11

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Doloras wrote:


Well, thank goodness that a multi-millionaire property developer, being so incredibly ignorant about matters of international finance, has an anonymous poster on a football fan forum to tell him right from wrong.


The SMH version is a bit more bleak and specific.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/30m-gone-jetsetter-accused-of-having-a-lend-20110302-1bexw.html

Giving fees up front that don't go into escrow or a trust account is not a good way to be doing anything....
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zonknz wrote:
The SMH version is a bit more bleak and specific.


Mmm. I'm sure this all comes as a huge shock and surprise to Terry, who has clearly been bamboozled by these Nigerians from India.

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zonknz wrote:

Doloras wrote:

Well, thank goodness that a multi-millionaire property developer, being so incredibly ignorant about matters of international finance, has an anonymous poster on a football fan forum to tell him right from wrong.
The SMH version is a bit more bleak and specific.http://www.smh.com.au/business/30m-gone-jetsetter-accused-of-having-a-lend-20110302-1bexw.htmlGiving fees up front that don't go into escrow or a trust account is not a good way to be doing anything....

That was the original story I linked... not good.

Same old Aussies...
E + R + O

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Serepisos' saviour linked to loan scheme <!-- google_ad_section_end(name=storyline) -->
(THE DOMINION POST via Stuff)
 
"The man in line to buy half of the Wellington Phoenix has been linked to an international investment scheme in which prominent Australian businessmen handed over more than $40 million in fees for loans that never eventuated."
 
 
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scribbler wrote:
Serepisos' saviour linked to loan scheme <!-- google_ad_section_end(name=storyline) -->
(THE DOMINION POST via Stuff)
 
"The man in line to buy half of the Wellington Phoenix has been linked to an international investment scheme in which prominent Australian businessmen handed over more than $40 million in fees for loans that never eventuated."
 
 
 
Maybe if you'd poppped up to the first post on this page, you might have noticed this link had already been posted. Might have saved yourself some effort.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Jag wrote:
All the above notwithstanding, if this dude is such a massive and well known crook, how was he allowed to grab a piece of a Spanish club. I would have thought that Santander and the Spanish FA just might have thoroughly checked him out beforehand.

Blackburn Rovers did not accept his offer even though I think his was higher than Venky's. Not sure what their reasons for that were.Bullion2011-03-03 11:00:51
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Bullion wrote:
Jag wrote:
All the above notwithstanding, if this dude is such a massive and well known crook, how was he allowed to grab a piece of a Spanish club. I would have thought that Santander and the Spanish FA just might have thoroughly checked him out beforehand.

Blackburn Rovers did not accept his offer even though I think his was higher than Venky's. Not sure what their reasons for that were.
I recall hearing in the media (so take it with a grain of salt) that concerns over him in Britain was where he actually got his money from in the first place.
 
I'm nervous about this but not panicking yet. The club does need some certainty pretty quickly to help with recruitment. If it doesn't get here by the end of March alarm bells will start ringing. For once the media scrutiny might actually help resulting in prompt service from WGA.
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