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2017/18 Transfer Speculation

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about 8 years ago · edited about 8 years ago · History

RR wrote:

Guy that told me about AK9 says another Serbian is on the way.

Worked out a name from hints from a YF Elite & my Twitter sauce confirms it.

Spoiler Alert

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about 8 years ago

[/quote] Did the ol' snoop around Transfermarkt, found a guy called Anton Postupalenko. He's a central midfielder who can play DM, CM and CAM. 29 years old, played his whole career in the Ukrainian Leagues. His contract technically ends on Jan 1, however he posted a goodbye to his club FC Olimpik Donetsk and left the club officially on the December 12 ( 4 days after Finkler left). Very next day when asked about what was next for his future he said he was happy to leave Ukraine to play overseas. 

So ahh... its 100% not him

You've followed the wrong rabbit, Neo

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 8 years ago

RR wrote:

RR wrote:

Guy that told me about AK9 says another Serbian is on the way.

Worked out a name from hints from a YF Elite & my Twitter sauce confirms it.

Spoiler Alert

Was released by his club on 1st December.




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Wibblebutt wrote:

RR wrote:

RR wrote:

Guy that told me about AK9 says another Serbian is on the way.

Worked out a name from hints from a YF Elite & my Twitter sauce confirms it.

Spoiler Alert

Was released by his club on 1st December.

Played in the same team as Kaludjerovic, and he looks decent from this video, plus he's young. But the Lithuanian league isn't the best standard in the world, probably around the Handy. He's going to have to have bossed the league in his time there (like Kalu did - 20 in 19) to stand out for us. 

My main gripe is this - we've had del Piero, David Villa, and most recently guys like Cahill, Maccarone and McCormack come into the league - why are we resorting to players released from Lithuania? Every other team in the league this season has brought in at least one player who's been starring in a top league recently, and could easily foot it in a top 5 league. Can't really say the same for us.

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mrsmiis wrote:

Wibblebutt wrote:

RR wrote:

RR wrote:

Guy that told me about AK9 says another Serbian is on the way.

Worked out a name from hints from a YF Elite & my Twitter sauce confirms it.

Spoiler Alert

Was released by his club on 1st December.

Played in the same team as Kaludjerovic, and he looks decent from this video, plus he's young. But the Lithuanian league isn't the best standard in the world, probably around the Handy. He's going to have to have bossed the league in his time there (like Kalu did - 20 in 19) to stand out for us. 

My main gripe is this - we've had del Piero, David Villa, and most recently guys like Cahill, Maccarone and McCormack come into the league - why are we resorting to players released from Lithuania? Every other team in the league this season has brought in at least one player who's been starring in a top league recently, and could easily foot it in a top 5 league. Can't really say the same for us.

Because we don't have as much money as City or Sydney. Brisbane aren't flush with cash but Maccarone is a pensioner. Big stars don't always look great at A League level anyway. Yorke, Fowler, Heskey, Romario - some of them had their moments but overall none made a massive difference to their teams when they were here for instance.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 8 years ago

Wibblebutt wrote:

RR wrote:

RR wrote:

Guy that told me about AK9 says another Serbian is on the way.

Worked out a name from hints from a YF Elite & my Twitter sauce confirms it.

Spoiler Alert

Was released by his club on 1st December.

Lets hope we see some of this in January 

http://darksta.com/post/1368364988289003284_1160670888

Annual finals disappointment enthusiast.

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about 8 years ago

Wibblebutt wrote:

Someone put some fangs on him. Looks vampiric.

also seems more of a Vidosic replacement than a central midfield partner for Paracki. Plays mostly as an attacking midfielder or left wing. Although he's 6ft and can play CM so perhaps he can do a job defensively. Maybe Paracki/Ridenton will do the dirty work and he'll be a deep lying playmaker pulling the strings. Sort of like McGlinchey, except hopefully with more physical presence than that of an U-12 academy player so he can make the odd tackle and help the other two out.
Annual finals disappointment enthusiast.

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about 8 years ago · edited about 8 years ago · History

mrsmiis wrote:

Wibblebutt wrote:

RR wrote:

RR wrote:

Guy that told me about AK9 says another Serbian is on the way.

Worked out a name from hints from a YF Elite & my Twitter sauce confirms it.

Spoiler Alert

Was released by his club on 1st December.

Played in the same team as Kaludjerovic, and he looks decent from this video, plus he's young. But the Lithuanian league isn't the best standard in the world, probably around the Handy. He's going to have to have bossed the league in his time there (like Kalu did - 20 in 19) to stand out for us. 

My main gripe is this - we've had del Piero, David Villa, and most recently guys like Cahill, Maccarone and McCormack come into the league - why are we resorting to players released from Lithuania? Every other team in the league this season has brought in at least one player who's been starring in a top league recently, and could easily foot it in a top 5 league. Can't really say the same for us.

Because we don't have as much money as City or Sydney. Brisbane aren't flush with cash but Maccarone is a pensioner. Big stars don't always look great at A League level anyway. Yorke, Fowler, Heskey, Romario - some of them had their moments but overall none made a massive difference to their teams when they were here for instance.

Definitely true that we don't have the cash for truly huge names, but in the course of our history perhaps the biggest player we have ever signed was Huysegems, and by that time he too was a pensioner and living out his days at Lierse, a Belgian relegation-threatened side (1 in 18 btw). Compare that to other sides in the league even just this season - CCM signing established Eredivisie midfielders, WSW bringing in two La Liga regulars, Brisbane signing a striker who captained + banged them in for his Serie A side for the past few seasons as well as a Greek international. Not saying we have to sign Ozil when his contract expires, and I definitely agree with you that reputation =/= results, but maybe we should be aiming higher that Lithuanian rejects? Not to mention a big name could equal bums on seats.

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about 8 years ago · edited about 8 years ago · History

mrsmiis wrote:

mrsmiis wrote:

Wibblebutt wrote:

RR wrote:

RR wrote:

Guy that told me about AK9 says another Serbian is on the way.

Worked out a name from hints from a YF Elite & my Twitter sauce confirms it.

Spoiler Alert

Was released by his club on 1st December.

Played in the same team as Kaludjerovic, and he looks decent from this video, plus he's young. But the Lithuanian league isn't the best standard in the world, probably around the Handy. He's going to have to have bossed the league in his time there (like Kalu did - 20 in 19) to stand out for us. 

My main gripe is this - we've had del Piero, David Villa, and most recently guys like Cahill, Maccarone and McCormack come into the league - why are we resorting to players released from Lithuania? Every other team in the league this season has brought in at least one player who's been starring in a top league recently, and could easily foot it in a top 5 league. Can't really say the same for us.

Because we don't have as much money as City or Sydney. Brisbane aren't flush with cash but Maccarone is a pensioner. Big stars don't always look great at A League level anyway. Yorke, Fowler, Heskey, Romario - some of them had their moments but overall none made a massive difference to their teams when they were here for instance.

Definitely true that we don't have the cash for truly huge names, but in the course of our history perhaps the biggest player we have ever signed was Huysegems, and by that time he too was a pensioner and living out his days at Lierse, a Belgian relegation-threatened side (1 in 18 btw). Compare that to other sides in the league even just this season - CCM signing established Eredivisie midfielders, WSW bringing in two La Liga regulars, Brisbane signing a striker who captained + banged them in for his Serie A side for the past few seasons as well as a Greek international. Not saying we have to sign Ozil when his contract expires, and I definitely agree with you that reputation =/= results, but maybe we should be aiming higher that Lithuanian rejects? Not to mention a big name could equal bums on seats.

Ifill had played Premier League. Roly had been a regular in the Eredivisie. And, um Rossi played Serie A too, and for Italy's U21s, and he's here right now. 

Sarpong had played in La Liga and Eredivisie and he was terrible for us, but Krishna, Riera and Sigmund all came from NZ football and were great for us.

Yeah a big name could equal bums on seats but it would have to be a really big name, and we can't afford a really big name.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 8 years ago

mrsmiis wrote:

mrsmiis wrote:

Wibblebutt wrote:

RR wrote:

RR wrote:

Guy that told me about AK9 says another Serbian is on the way.

Worked out a name from hints from a YF Elite & my Twitter sauce confirms it.

Spoiler Alert

Was released by his club on 1st December.

Played in the same team as Kaludjerovic, and he looks decent from this video, plus he's young. But the Lithuanian league isn't the best standard in the world, probably around the Handy. He's going to have to have bossed the league in his time there (like Kalu did - 20 in 19) to stand out for us. 

My main gripe is this - we've had del Piero, David Villa, and most recently guys like Cahill, Maccarone and McCormack come into the league - why are we resorting to players released from Lithuania? Every other team in the league this season has brought in at least one player who's been starring in a top league recently, and could easily foot it in a top 5 league. Can't really say the same for us.

Because we don't have as much money as City or Sydney. Brisbane aren't flush with cash but Maccarone is a pensioner. Big stars don't always look great at A League level anyway. Yorke, Fowler, Heskey, Romario - some of them had their moments but overall none made a massive difference to their teams when they were here for instance.

Definitely true that we don't have the cash for truly huge names, but in the course of our history perhaps the biggest player we have ever signed was Huysegems, and by that time he too was a pensioner and living out his days at Lierse, a Belgian relegation-threatened side (1 in 18 btw). Compare that to other sides in the league even just this season - CCM signing established Eredivisie midfielders, WSW bringing in two La Liga regulars, Brisbane signing a striker who captained + banged them in for his Serie A side for the past few seasons as well as a Greek international. Not saying we have to sign Ozil when his contract expires, and I definitely agree with you that reputation =/= results, but maybe we should be aiming higher that Lithuanian rejects? Not to mention a big name could equal bums on seats.

Ifill had played Premier League. Roly had been a regular in the Eredivisie. And, um Rossi played Serie A too, and for Italy's U21s, and he's here right now. 

Sarpong had played in La Liga and Eredivisie and he was terrible for us, but Krishna, Riera and Sigmund all came from NZ football and were great for us.

Yeah a big name could equal bums on seats but it would have to be a really big name, and we can't afford a really big name.

Who said we cant afford a big name? Isnt more a case of the owners saying we wont spend that kind of money? Not the same thing at all. That has long been a gripe of many (including myself) who say they should be spending that kind of money on the right player/s
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about 8 years ago

Exactly. The club in my opinion needs to spend money to get a big name. We need better players and we need to get bums on seats, or let’s face it, the club is likely to fold. Surely if the name was big enough we would be able to have them outside the salary cap. But I guess who is the question. This may be my Everton fandom coming through, but what’s Rooney doing next year?

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about 8 years ago

I bet new signings can't wait to fly overseas and join that lot of crap we saw last night.

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about 8 years ago

Ok , maybe our owners have deep enough pockets that they could afford to pay the millions of dollars for a genuine top tier star (because just being ex EPL or even an international for a decent country isn't enough to get bums on seats) they have shown zero willingness to spend it. Yeah that is not the same as not being able to afford it but in a practical sense it's the same thing. And from a business perspective I can see why. At best it's a 50/50 gamble you get a guy who actually lives up to the hype on the pitch (based on A League import history).

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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Ok , maybe our owners have deep enough pockets that they could afford to pay the millions of dollars for a genuine top tier star (because just being ex EPL or even an international for a decent country isn't enough to get bums on seats) they have shown zero willingness to spend it. Yeah that is not the same as not being able to afford it but in a practical sense it's the same thing. And from a business perspective I can see why. At best it's a 50/50 gamble you get a guy who actually lives up to the hype on the pitch (based on A League import history).

Or to put it another way, the owners might be able to afford it but the club can't. And the bigger crowds wouldn't be enough to offset the cost either

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 8 years ago

All reasonable points and the probably $2 million plus that you would have to pay for a marquee player is a lot (but hopefully outside the cap). At the moment I’ll say it’s a lot less than a 50 /50 chance the Phoenix are In the A-league in five years. 

But I do acknowledge this will never happen.

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about 8 years ago

Lets pretend for a moment the owners said to the coach, heres ten million dollars, go and get yourself a marque.

Who would you get and why? 

because i cant see one player being able to make enough of a difference to the team now. 

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about 8 years ago

Losing players during international windows isn't a big deal for me. I'd rather have All Whites at the club. I understand the MLS is a better league but what are the chances of making a play at Bill Tuiloma and Jake Gleeson?

Singh looked good last night. There must other talent in NZ? The first club for a player like Marco Rojas, Kosta Barbarouses or Tyler Boyd. If we aren't winning the league, can we at least develop NZ talent? Right now, we aren't doing either. 

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about 8 years ago

Brown Bear wrote:

Losing players during international windows isn't a big deal for me. I'd rather have All Whites at the club. I understand the MLS is a better league but what are the chances of making a play at Bill Tuiloma and Jake Gleeson?

Singh looked good last night. There must other talent in NZ? The first club for a player like Marco Rojas, Kosta Barbarouses or Tyler Boyd. If we aren't winning the league, can we at least develop NZ talent? Right now, we aren't doing either. 

They are contracted, MLS would want transfer fees cuz they are in their teams plans going forward.
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about 8 years ago

Bit of word that replacements for Finkler and Vidosic are just about done deals. One will surprise.

   

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about 8 years ago

Steven Naismith released from Norwich

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about 8 years ago

sthn.jeff wrote:

Steven Naismith released from Norwich

He got any Aussie/Kiwi heritage? The Serbian takes Finklers visa spot, so will need an Aussie/Kiwi to replace Dario.
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about 8 years ago

RR wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

Steven Naismith released from Norwich

He got any Aussie/Kiwi heritage? The Serbian takes Finklers visa spot, so will need an Aussie/Kiwi to replace Dario.

Full blown Scottish. Tis a shame as he would destroy most players in this division.

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Not saying I know how he plays, but if we use our international spot on Ljulic i’ll officially lose all hope. Where the fudge is the ambition in signing Lithuanian dropouts to try improve our team? (no offence to the league but it’s Handa level, Zalgiris is the ACFC of the league but still). Naismith sounds brilliant to be honest

Plus, more KIWIS! What’s the point of being the only domestic professional pathway for NZ athletes if we’re just gonna develop mid-twenties journeyman Aussies who will never be good enough for this level anyway? I appreciate Ridenton and Rufer being implemented more but i fear it’s too late for them, by 22 your development’s already slowed down a ton. Let’s just play half the Weenix for the rest of the season if we don’t have a turnaround by say February. 

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about 8 years ago

Cantrun7 wrote:

Lets pretend for a moment the owners said to the coach, heres ten million dollars, go and get yourself a marque.

Who would you get and why? 

because i cant see one player being able to make enough of a difference to the team now. 

To be honest, I'd take that money and reinvest it in the overall squad. You can have a fantastic goal scorer but if they don't get service or you're heavily shipping goals (both realistic problems for us), then there's little point if you can't address the core issues. 

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about 8 years ago

mrsmiis wrote:

Not saying I know how he plays, but if we use our international spot on Ljulic i’ll officially lose all hope. Where the fudge is the ambition in signing Lithuanian dropouts to try improve our team (no offence to the league but it’s Handa level, Zalgiris is the ACFC of the league but still).

Plus, more KIWIS! What’s the point of being the only domestic professional pathway for NZ athletes if we’re just gonna develop mid-twenties journeyman Aussies who will never be good enough for this level anyway? I appreciate Ridenton and Rufer being implemented more but it’s too late for them, by 22 your development’s already slowed down a ton. Let’s just play half the Weenix for the rest of the season if we don’t have a turnaround by say February. 

Although I agree with the sentiment, you're talking about players who aren't even close to the top of the national league. 

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TreeFiddy wrote:

mrsmiis wrote:

Not saying I know how he plays, but if we use our international spot on Ljulic i’ll officially lose all hope. Where the fudge is the ambition in signing Lithuanian dropouts to try improve our team (no offence to the league but it’s Handa level, Zalgiris is the ACFC of the league but still).

Plus, more KIWIS! What’s the point of being the only domestic professional pathway for NZ athletes if we’re just gonna develop mid-twenties journeyman Aussies who will never be good enough for this level anyway? I appreciate Ridenton and Rufer being implemented more but it’s too late for them, by 22 your development’s already slowed down a ton. Let’s just play half the Weenix for the rest of the season if we don’t have a turnaround by say February. 

Although I agree with the sentiment, you're talking about players who aren't even close to the top of the national league. 

Yeah that’s definitely true, a lot of them sadly won’t get far. More promising ones like (imo) Tongue, Wood, Waine, Ebbinge and co. could slip into the subs or even first team as our season collapses though. Plus we should really be mopping up a lot more talent than we currently are, bringing in the best young NZ talent (McCowatt, Callan Elliott, etc.) so the Weenix can actually begin to perform, and bring players through to the first team successfully - look at Barcelona B for example, even though they can’t be promoted they’re still doing exceptionally in the Spanish second tier and bringing players such as Arnaiz and Aleña into the first team, yet Weenix would be dead last in the national league if it wasn’t for an even sharktier team. Sad to see Marowa rejected :(

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about 8 years ago

RR wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

Steven Naismith released from Norwich

He got any Aussie/Kiwi heritage? The Serbian takes Finklers visa spot, so will need an Aussie/Kiwi to replace Dario.

he played for Everton. I support Every. I am a kiwi. Does that qualify him ?
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about 8 years ago

mrsmiis wrote:

TreeFiddy wrote:

mrsmiis wrote:

Not saying I know how he plays, but if we use our international spot on Ljulic i’ll officially lose all hope. Where the fudge is the ambition in signing Lithuanian dropouts to try improve our team (no offence to the league but it’s Handa level, Zalgiris is the ACFC of the league but still).

Plus, more KIWIS! What’s the point of being the only domestic professional pathway for NZ athletes if we’re just gonna develop mid-twenties journeyman Aussies who will never be good enough for this level anyway? I appreciate Ridenton and Rufer being implemented more but it’s too late for them, by 22 your development’s already slowed down a ton. Let’s just play half the Weenix for the rest of the season if we don’t have a turnaround by say February. 

Although I agree with the sentiment, you're talking about players who aren't even close to the top of the national league. 

Yeah that’s definitely true, a lot of them sadly won’t get far. More promising ones like (imo) Tongue, Wood, Waine, Ebbinge and co. could slip into the subs or even first team as our season collapses though. Plus we should really be mopping up a lot more talent than we currently are, bringing in the best young NZ talent (McCowatt, Callan Elliott, etc.) so the Weenix can actually begin to perform, and bring players through to the first team successfully - look at Barcelona B for example, even though they can’t be promoted they’re still doing exceptionally in the Spanish second tier and bringing players such as Arnaiz and Aleña into the first team, yet Weenix would be dead last in the national league if it wasn’t for an even sharktier team. Sad to see Marowa rejected :(

Lol but that's because Barcelona has a ton of cash to spend even for teens who will play in their B side and academies everywhere to detect new talent. I also think WeeNix should be doing better but the comparison with Barca is just ridiculous

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about 8 years ago

Argie- wrote:

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Lol but that's because Barcelona has a ton of cash to spend even for teens who will play in their B side and academies everywhere to detect new talent. I also think WeeNix should be doing better but the comparison with Barca is just ridiculous

#unambitious

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 8 years ago

TreeFiddy wrote:

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To be honest, I'd take that money and reinvest it in the overall squad. You can have a fantastic goal scorer but if they don't get service or you're heavily shipping goals (both realistic problems for us), then there's little point if you can't address the core issues. 

We already have Kadjulerovic, who is just that. We may have lost Vidosic, another proven goalscorer, and we should replace him, especially that Krishna was unavailable and Singh is just too young to be a permanent fixture (but should get decent time on the park every game if possible).

I agree though that shipping goals is an issue. Having said that, apart from this game, we have not shipped that many since the game against Newcastle.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 8 years ago

They're signing an Aussie to replace Dario.

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about 8 years ago

tonya wrote:

They're signing an Aussie to replace Dario.

Surprising aussie. Cahill?

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about 8 years ago

No - but surprising Aussie yes.

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about 8 years ago


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 8 years ago

Geeez .... and I was enjoying a quiet, stress-free, post-football-where-we got-thrashed Christmas lunch, not a care in the world, and now this. I do not need this kind of unfulfilled excitement just after a Xmas roast.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 8 years ago

Hopefully it's surprising because they are really good, not surprising because they are really bad. Like, I hope it's not Pavlovic!

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about 8 years ago

Not many sequels are better.

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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about 8 years ago

So you have Burns and AK9

McGlinchey and Krishna

Paracki and Ljujic

Bye bye Ridenton finally

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 8 years ago

Mirjan Pavlović

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