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Smeltz saga - now with added hypocrisy.

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Why does it have nothing to do with Tony P?
 
He is a contracted Phoenix player until March 31st. He is ours until he goes to GCU when that contract starts so I would suggest that yes, Tony P has everything to do with it. Put it this way, GCU aren't going to say 'Here ya go Turkey, take the players voted best player and Golden Boot winner' now are they??
 
If Smeltz only has a letter of intent with GCU and no contract, well.......
 
I would add that I wouldn't believe everything that comes out of Bleibergs mouth either. Miron the Mouth, remember? I'm waiting for Tony P to deny this until I let it rest. Doesn't have to confirm it, but can deny it...
 
 
Agent 472009-02-03 12:44:11
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Listening to what Bleiberg says it effectively sounds like Palmer tried to guilt him last night talking about the community and the sponsors and the club. No real talk of legal obligations.
If GCU only got him with a letter of intent and then went and trumpeted the club based on that then thats there own stupidity

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
This is the interesting part
"The transfer, believed to be worth $400,000 will see the bulk of the fee go to A-League newcomers Gold Coast United, who signed Smeltz as one of the key recruits for their debut season"
 
Me thinks the left and right foot of GCU dont know what each other is doing

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
 I thought the reason for leaving Wellington was to go back home for lifestyle, good for kids etc. Now he's off to Ankara. I don't get it.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
bopman wrote:
This is the interesting part
"The transfer, believed to be worth $400,000 will see the bulk of the fee go to A-League newcomers Gold Coast United, who signed Smeltz as one of the key recruits for their debut season"
 
Me thinks the left and right foot of GCU dont know what each other is doing


Me thinks the owner of GCU can't even see his left or right feet
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sanday wrote:
 I thought the reason for leaving Wellington was to go back home for lifestyle, good for kids etc. Now he's off to Ankara. I don't get it.
 
$s
 
Playing in a league on the radar of European clubs
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Shame Phoenix didnt get any of the fee due to the intermediate step to GCU...it will be tough "me thinks" over there. 

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah. I was being sarcastic.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4836835a1823.html

Stuff just broke it. I'm happy.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Agent 47 wrote:
http://www.ajansspor.com/futbol/superlig/h/20090202/hacettepeye_yeni_zelandali_golcu.html
Anyone speak.... well gobbledy gook?


It basically says "Fark GCU for messing with Welli Phoenix, Fark Clive Palmer for being a flashy showy git, Fark Miron the Mouth for being a gobsh*te and long live King Smeltz......."

Made my day this piece of news........in your farken face Gold Coast United....innit!!!

Grinning from ear to ear.......great news for Smeltzy!!!!


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sanday wrote:
 I thought the reason for leaving Wellington was to go back home for lifestyle, good for kids etc. Now he's off to Ankara. I don't get it.
 
If he really has a shot at playing in Turkey, then, at least from a footballing perspective, it's a no brainer.  I imagine the lifestyle won't be too bad either for a few years.  I guess I have some doubts about whether he's up to it, particularly starting off in Europe at a fairly 'old' age for a footballer.  But obviously the Turkish club must have seen enough, and if it does go belly up, Smeltz knows he will be in high demand in the A-League.  He should take the challenge, as the risk is pretty low for him - at worst he ends up back in the A-League.
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Boro4eva wrote:
Shame Phoenix didnt get any of the fee due to the intermediate step to GCU...it will be tough "me thinks" over there. 


We did get $$ by all accounts.

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
Boro4eva wrote:
Shame Phoenix didnt get any of the fee due to the intermediate step to GCU...it will be tough "me thinks" over there. 


We did get $$ by all accounts.
 
Then a bonus - good result all round.  And the transfer money should help if we're looking for a marquee player.
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Hard News wrote:
Boro4eva wrote:
Shame Phoenix didnt get any of the fee due to the intermediate step to GCU...it will be tough "me thinks" over there. 


We did get $$ by all accounts.
 
That's good news - nice for Terry to get transfer $s coming in - a few more $s for a marquee striker
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
So much for the wife likes the beaches and the lifestyle of being back in Aus etc, clearly the money and being in Europe counts more.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The stuff story was just picked up from the SMH, still no official confirmation from anyone.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
axmfc wrote:
sanday wrote:
 I thought the reason for leaving Wellington was to go back home for lifestyle, good for kids etc. Now he's off to Ankara. I don't get it.
 
If he really has a shot at playing in Turkey, then, at least from a footballing perspective, it's a no brainer.  I imagine the lifestyle won't be too bad either for a few years.  I guess I have some doubts about whether he's up to it, particularly starting off in Europe at a fairly 'old' age for a footballer.  But obviously the Turkish club must have seen enough, and if it does go belly up, Smeltz knows he will be in high demand in the A-League.  He should take the challenge, as the risk is pretty low for him - at worst he ends up back in the A-League.

Don't disagree with you. Maybe if it doesn't work out he will be back at the Phoenix. I imagine GCU will be rather annoyed with him.
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sanday wrote:
axmfc wrote:
sanday wrote:
 I thought the reason for leaving Wellington was to go back home for lifestyle, good for kids etc. Now he's off to Ankara. I don't get it.
 
If he really has a shot at playing in Turkey, then, at least from a footballing perspective, it's a no brainer.  I imagine the lifestyle won't be too bad either for a few years.  I guess I have some doubts about whether he's up to it, particularly starting off in Europe at a fairly 'old' age for a footballer.  But obviously the Turkish club must have seen enough, and if it does go belly up, Smeltz knows he will be in high demand in the A-League.  He should take the challenge, as the risk is pretty low for him - at worst he ends up back in the A-League.

Don't disagree with you. Maybe if it doesn't work out he will be back at the Phoenix. I imagine GCU will be rather annoyed with him.
 
 'Apart from that, Mrs Lincoln. What did you think of the play.."

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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From what I have read you lot say about Miron and from what I have read and heard about Palmer I dont think all this is going to be mess free, hope it is for Smeltzy but have a bad feeling

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Miron won't care, he'll have another 18 strikers lined up anyway!

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
What an absolute mess, this is going to get very interesting...
Shane or his agent are going to have to come out and clear the air with the truth at some stage.
News tonight perhaps.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I read on one of the Aus forums that the official word from the Phoenix is that he's not our player, talk to the Gold Coast.

I doubt the Phoenix have any comment to make other than that they have an offer for a player and have accepted it (as would any club).

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
someone ask Matheson

Founder

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Feverish wrote:
someone ask Matheson
Did Matheson not write about this 3 months ago? He is the oracle of NZ football news, my confidence in him will be forever dented

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yes..some contract law issues floating around in here viz a vie timing of tsf Phoenix to GCU (off one contract and onto another?), level of commitment in that contract and whose property he now is.....lol. 

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Torne wrote:
Hard News wrote:
He cares, updated story is here:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4836835a1823.html

He's denying it.


Grrr. I think Phoenix club management should clear this up sooner rather than later IMO
 
I think it's a certain S. Smeltz who should be doing the clearing up.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Strange events. Can he even go? The transfer window is closed, is it not?

On one hand i'd rather him go there than the GC but the Turkish club are sure to be relegated. Does he really want to be in the 2nd Turkish division?
valeo2009-02-03 14:51:01

a.haak

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If he signed on Monday (as the Turkish reports say) and the bid was accepted by the Phoenix I guess it occured in the transfer window so possibly yes ?

The speedbump is the Gold Coast agreement in whatever form it took.

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
To be honest I wouldn't f**k with the richest man in Australia.

a.haak

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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
This stuff is a Contract Lawyers wet dream!

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