I missed him, was he up front with Terry ?
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Phoenix put millions in Wellington's coffers
By DAVE BURGESS - The Dominion Post
Last updated 05:00 28/05/2010
Football's Wellington Phoenix are the best supported sports team in the capital this year � and their success is having a big impact on the local economy.
The Phoenix played five A-League games at Westpac Stadium this year, including two knock-out semifinals, attracting more than 87,000 fans � an average of about 17,400 supporters for each match.
The Hurricanes averaged 15,188 during their five home games.
From August to February, the Phoenix played 13 games in Wellington with an average crowd of 11,100 � about 60 more per game than the Wellington Lions managed last year.
A new economic-impact study, by Economic Solutions, shows that last season, but not including the two big playoff games in February, the Phoenix home fixtures pumped $7.9 million into the local economy. They also generated the equivalent of 68 full-time jobs in the region.
Phoenix chief executive Tony Pignata said that although attendance levels had increased by 62 percent on the previous season, the sport remained a "sleeping giant".
"There is also no doubt that the night against Bahrain [at Westpac Stadium when the All Whites qualified for the World Cup] stoked the fire of people who may have gone to a football game for the first time.
"We are hoping to build on that with fans coming through the gate."
Mr Pignata said the report was commissioned "to see what we brought to the city not just in entertainment value but commercial value."
John Morrison, Wellington City Council's sports portfolio leader, said Phoenix's success should be a warning to rugby officials.
"The fans have always been very important to football. That's a yardstick around the world ... The rugby union is going to have to address what the fans want, otherwise the numbers of followers will continue to drop off."
Wellington Rugby chief executive Greg Peters said falling rugby attendance was a national problem but law changes this season had seen the game become more exciting to watch and easier to understand.
"Hopefully that will re-energise fans to the game."
Former All White David Chote said the Phoenix provided a good alternative to sports fans with rugby fatigue.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/football/3747961/Phoenix-put-millions-in-Wellingtons-coffers
By DAVE BURGESS - The Dominion Post
Last updated 05:00 28/05/2010
Football's Wellington Phoenix are the best supported sports team in the capital this year � and their success is having a big impact on the local economy.
The Phoenix played five A-League games at Westpac Stadium this year, including two knock-out semifinals, attracting more than 87,000 fans � an average of about 17,400 supporters for each match.
The Hurricanes averaged 15,188 during their five home games.
From August to February, the Phoenix played 13 games in Wellington with an average crowd of 11,100 � about 60 more per game than the Wellington Lions managed last year.
A new economic-impact study, by Economic Solutions, shows that last season, but not including the two big playoff games in February, the Phoenix home fixtures pumped $7.9 million into the local economy. They also generated the equivalent of 68 full-time jobs in the region.
Phoenix chief executive Tony Pignata said that although attendance levels had increased by 62 percent on the previous season, the sport remained a "sleeping giant".
"There is also no doubt that the night against Bahrain [at Westpac Stadium when the All Whites qualified for the World Cup] stoked the fire of people who may have gone to a football game for the first time.
"We are hoping to build on that with fans coming through the gate."
Mr Pignata said the report was commissioned "to see what we brought to the city not just in entertainment value but commercial value."
John Morrison, Wellington City Council's sports portfolio leader, said Phoenix's success should be a warning to rugby officials.
"The fans have always been very important to football. That's a yardstick around the world ... The rugby union is going to have to address what the fans want, otherwise the numbers of followers will continue to drop off."
Wellington Rugby chief executive Greg Peters said falling rugby attendance was a national problem but law changes this season had seen the game become more exciting to watch and easier to understand.
"Hopefully that will re-energise fans to the game."
Former All White David Chote said the Phoenix provided a good alternative to sports fans with rugby fatigue.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/football/3747961/Phoenix-put-millions-in-Wellingtons-coffers
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Radio claiming NZ Football coming to Wellington for crisis meetings on the Phoenix' future,
Or theyre making a contingency plan in case sometime in the future it does happen.
Massive beat up 
Allegedly
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Phoenix put millions in Wellington's coffers
By DAVE BURGESS - The Dominion Post
Last updated 05:00 28/05/2010
Football's Wellington Phoenix are the best supported sports team in the capital this year � and their success is having a big impact on the local economy.
The Phoenix played five A-League games at Westpac Stadium this year, including two knock-out semifinals, attracting more than 87,000 fans � an average of about 17,400 supporters for each match.
The Hurricanes averaged 15,188 during their five home games.
From August to February, the Phoenix played 13 games in Wellington with an average crowd of 11,100 � about 60 more per game than the Wellington Lions managed last year.
A new economic-impact study, by Economic Solutions, shows that last season, but not including the two big playoff games in February, the Phoenix home fixtures pumped $7.9 million into the local economy. They also generated the equivalent of 68 full-time jobs in the region.
Phoenix chief executive Tony Pignata said that although attendance levels had increased by 62 percent on the previous season, the sport remained a "sleeping giant".
"There is also no doubt that the night against Bahrain [at Westpac Stadium when the All Whites qualified for the World Cup] stoked the fire of people who may have gone to a football game for the first time.
"We are hoping to build on that with fans coming through the gate."
Mr Pignata said the report was commissioned "to see what we brought to the city not just in entertainment value but commercial value."
John Morrison, Wellington City Council's sports portfolio leader, said Phoenix's success should be a warning to rugby officials.
"The fans have always been very important to football. That's a yardstick around the world ... The rugby union is going to have to address what the fans want, otherwise the numbers of followers will continue to drop off."
Wellington Rugby chief executive Greg Peters said falling rugby attendance was a national problem but law changes this season had seen the game become more exciting to watch and easier to understand.
"Hopefully that will re-energise fans to the game."
Former All White David Chote said the Phoenix provided a good alternative to sports fans with rugby fatigue.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/football/3747961/Phoenix-put-millions-in-Wellingtons-coffers
By DAVE BURGESS - The Dominion Post
Last updated 05:00 28/05/2010
Football's Wellington Phoenix are the best supported sports team in the capital this year � and their success is having a big impact on the local economy.
The Phoenix played five A-League games at Westpac Stadium this year, including two knock-out semifinals, attracting more than 87,000 fans � an average of about 17,400 supporters for each match.
The Hurricanes averaged 15,188 during their five home games.
From August to February, the Phoenix played 13 games in Wellington with an average crowd of 11,100 � about 60 more per game than the Wellington Lions managed last year.
A new economic-impact study, by Economic Solutions, shows that last season, but not including the two big playoff games in February, the Phoenix home fixtures pumped $7.9 million into the local economy. They also generated the equivalent of 68 full-time jobs in the region.
Phoenix chief executive Tony Pignata said that although attendance levels had increased by 62 percent on the previous season, the sport remained a "sleeping giant".
"There is also no doubt that the night against Bahrain [at Westpac Stadium when the All Whites qualified for the World Cup] stoked the fire of people who may have gone to a football game for the first time.
"We are hoping to build on that with fans coming through the gate."
Mr Pignata said the report was commissioned "to see what we brought to the city not just in entertainment value but commercial value."
John Morrison, Wellington City Council's sports portfolio leader, said Phoenix's success should be a warning to rugby officials.
"The fans have always been very important to football. That's a yardstick around the world ... The rugby union is going to have to address what the fans want, otherwise the numbers of followers will continue to drop off."
Wellington Rugby chief executive Greg Peters said falling rugby attendance was a national problem but law changes this season had seen the game become more exciting to watch and easier to understand.
"Hopefully that will re-energise fans to the game."
Former All White David Chote said the Phoenix provided a good alternative to sports fans with rugby fatigue.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/football/3747961/Phoenix-put-millions-in-Wellingtons-coffers
No fan of egg-ball but again this seems to try and make it a p!ssing contest between the two codes which thankfully neither Tony P or Greg Peters bought into.
Nix is still new (3 seasons old) so the support base is still building. As long as the club doesn't get arrogant with success and still considers value for the fans, it should keep a core base of supporters.
So far it's been doing things very well.
Another meet the players day pre-season would be nice.
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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"A new economic-impact study, by Economic Solutions, shows that last season, but not including the two big playoff games in February, the Phoenix home fixtures pumped $7.9 million into the local economy. They also generated the equivalent of 68 full-time jobs in the region."
Little episode in the last semi-final that I didn't bother to post but am reminded about now.
Sitting in our non-season seats, sometime in the second half with the scores locked up and no result coming, some young doris* behind me yells out "we don't pay your wages so you can play like sh!t" to the team.
I let it go but was quite tempted to turn around and say "No you don't pay their wages as none of the revenue from this match goes to the Nix".
(f#cking bandwagoners!)
*a couple of rows back. Not the nice lasses in Toon vomit yellow strips.
Junior822010-05-28 12:52:07"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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Is the Herald on Sunday trying to save money by not using capital letters?
cronus2010-05-30 09:15:47
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Not sure how the article was presented in the actual paper but it actually reads in a very balanced way.
A sunday paper being more reasonable than the DomPost?
And an Akld one at that.
AWs beating Serbia 1-0.
Crazy mixed up world.
A sunday paper being more reasonable than the DomPost?
And an Akld one at that.
AWs beating Serbia 1-0.
Crazy mixed up world.
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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Is the Herald on Sunday trying to save money by not using capital letters?
I just sent him a email asking that
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Heard Nathan Rarere and Ian Smith on B-Sport this morning saying the rumours are that the Nix have asked the WCC for funding because of the dollars the Nix bring into WLG. They were doing a 'scientific' poll asking people if they were happy that their rates may be spent on the Nix.
When they signed off at 9am this morning, 67% had said no.
They also said either Terry S or Nathan Greenham would be on with them tomorrow morning to discuss...
When they signed off at 9am this morning, 67% had said no.
They also said either Terry S or Nathan Greenham would be on with them tomorrow morning to discuss...
"You can never get a bloody tradesman at Easter, it's a wonder Jesus got crucified" - Karl Pilkington
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Well the Central Coast tourism people sponsor Central Coast...
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Front page of the NBR had that story.
www.kiwifromthecouch.blogspot.com
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people only want rates spent on people that directly affect them. The general public is pretty dumb sometimes
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people only want rates spent on people that directly affect them. The general public is pretty dumb sometimes
Be interesting to see what the response would be if they polled everyone on here and asked them if they minded that their rates would be spent on the Hurricanes.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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SIlly poll. Of course people would vote no,rational people would only vote yes for things that are spent on them directly. Surprised its only 60% to be honest,mustve struck a few nix fans.
Allegedly
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There's also a difference between commercial and residential rates.
You would expect that the argument that the WCC should give some funding to the Nix because of the economic benefits generated by the Nix would be more palatable to commercial ratepayers.
You would expect that the argument that the WCC should give some funding to the Nix because of the economic benefits generated by the Nix would be more palatable to commercial ratepayers.
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It might also be worth noting that due to Phoenix increasing popularity of the roundball code in the region, the All Whites had a sell-out at the RoF, and could expect much the same with games in October I reckon.
But it's hard to get City Councillors, let alone rate payers, to see passed their own noses.
But it's hard to get City Councillors, let alone rate payers, to see passed their own noses.
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There's also a difference between commercial and residential rates.You would expect that the argument that the WCC should give some funding to the Nix because of the economic benefits generated by the Nix would be more palatable to commercial ratepayers.
I bet what is being asked may be a bit less than what is being spent for THAT World Cup by the WCC. The Nix is an on going entity not a one off event never to be seen again.
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So Did Terry or Nathan front..anyone hear?
Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!
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Terry S has dug so deep to get Wellington Phoenix started and has kept it going for 3 seasons. He would have lost a truckload of cash so far in the name of putting something back into the city he loves. Philanthropist or masochist? Terry's pocket must be holy by now and he needs urgent help immediately.
More season memberships need to be sold to keep Wellington Phoenix afloat!!
How can WP be made so attractive that everyone wants to be part of it? Quality of play? Winning all the time? Win the A-League and also grandfinal? Or reduce the package price?
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Whilst I don't think Terry will ever make much from the Nix, and I understand that is not his motivation, I think there is potentially light at the end of the tunnel (i.e. we could break even or better) by;
- The stadium reducing its charges - it targets to make $2m a year to repay debt and fund capital requirements but has been making well in excess of that (based on 2009 (most recent) accounts).- Securing home playoffs - last year play-off revenue went to the FFA. I understand this year the clubs receive a share (no idea what share).
- And the obvious - win, win and keep winning. Winning = crowds ($s) = profile = sponsorship ($s)
- Lastly - we all keep doing what we do already and get as many others along as we can
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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-Securing home playoffs - last year play-off revenue went to the FFA. I understand this year the clubs receive a share (no idea what share).
Sauce?
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-Securing home playoffs - last year play-off revenue went to the FFA. I understand this year the clubs receive a share (no idea what share).
Sauce?
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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No offence, but any article bylined "Simon Plumb" doesn't count as reliable in my book. That guy makes things up and starts fights.
Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
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'sauce' is my pet hate
stop it! all of you!
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