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Phoenix City - Farewell

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over 6 years ago

Right, cutting off questions there too give us time to prep. Thanks everyone! 


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over 6 years ago

Ask him what his forum name is



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over 6 years ago

martinb wrote:

Ask him what his forum name is

The Domestar. But don't think he's posted for a long, long time.

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over 6 years ago · edited over 6 years ago · History

el grapadura wrote:

martinb wrote:

Ask him what his forum name is

The Domestar. But don't think he's posted for a long, long time.

Yeah, but Rudan had (at least) 2 twitter accounts, so...

Valley FC til I die?

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over 6 years ago

Thanks guys.

a.haak

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over 6 years ago

TBH this was a very disappointing interview, the only hard question Domey got was right at the end by Dave and even then Patrick tried to shut him down.

Think you guys missed a trick and should have got Dave to ask the questions as he is very good at playing devils advocate, Patrick, I'm sorry just didn't seem to think Domey could do any wrong and every time someone challenged him he shot them down to a point you may as well call him Patrick Brown Nose!

This may be unfair on Pat and had the Nix PR person not been there he may have acted different. It says a HUGE amount about the Nix that they can't let their GM talk to some fans doing a pod cast without their "bouncer" being there - players I can understand, but a GM???? really

Always like the fever because thought they were independent of the main organisation, but after this, they are pretty much the same :-(


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over 6 years ago

I thought it was good actually, they got more than I expected. There were some veiled stabs at Judan but the most important info was around the license, recruitment, and the fine.

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over 6 years ago

I know I only listen to Phoenix City for their hard hitting interviews. 

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over 6 years ago

TBH this was a very disappointing interview, the only hard question Domey got was right at the end by Dave and even then Patrick tried to shut him down.

Think you guys missed a trick and should have got Dave to ask the questions as he is very good at playing devils advocate, Patrick, I'm sorry just didn't seem to think Domey could do any wrong and every time someone challenged him he shot them down to a point you may as well call him Patrick Brown Nose!

This may be unfair on Pat and had the Nix PR person not been there he may have acted different. It says a HUGE amount about the Nix that they can't let their GM talk to some fans doing a pod cast without their "bouncer" being there - players I can understand, but a GM???? really

Always like the fever because thought they were independent of the main organisation, but after this, they are pretty much the same :-(


Form your own Podcast them, Ask Domey on and ask those questions and see if he comes back. You forget that Patrick Etc. have to still have a relationship with the club in order to do things like get players on, get the GM on etc. the moment you start publicly attacking him is the moment he says no thanks. I Don't doubt for a second off air they have probably hit him hard on some things, but unfortunately sometimes you need to think about the future, the fever has a good relationship with the club unlike some other fan groups and its not worth risking that. 

These lads put in a shark load of effort behind the scene's to make sure we have a forum, a atmosphere, and a fan group and i dont think its fair (for Patrick in particular) that they seem to get attacked at every corner, they aren't paid for this shark, they do it out of love for footy and the team.

Please do a Podcast though get him on and ask the questions you think are missing as I would be genuinely interested in the responses.

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over 6 years ago · edited over 6 years ago · History

Or just ask him on twitter.

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over 6 years ago

RoriM6 wrote:

TBH this was a very disappointing interview, the only hard question Domey got was right at the end by Dave and even then Patrick tried to shut him down.

Think you guys missed a trick and should have got Dave to ask the questions as he is very good at playing devils advocate, Patrick, I'm sorry just didn't seem to think Domey could do any wrong and every time someone challenged him he shot them down to a point you may as well call him Patrick Brown Nose!

This may be unfair on Pat and had the Nix PR person not been there he may have acted different. It says a HUGE amount about the Nix that they can't let their GM talk to some fans doing a pod cast without their "bouncer" being there - players I can understand, but a GM???? really

Always like the fever because thought they were independent of the main organisation, but after this, they are pretty much the same :-(


Form your own Podcast them, Ask Domey on and ask those questions and see if he comes back. You forget that Patrick Etc. have to still have a relationship with the club in order to do things like get players on, get the GM on etc. the moment you start publicly attacking him is the moment he says no thanks. I Don't doubt for a second off air they have probably hit him hard on some things, but unfortunately sometimes you need to think about the future, the fever has a good relationship with the club unlike some other fan groups and its not worth risking that. 

These lads put in a shark load of effort behind the scene's to make sure we have a forum, a atmosphere, and a fan group and i dont think its fair (for Patrick in particular) that they seem to get attacked at every corner, they aren't paid for this shark, they do it out of love for footy and the team.

Please do a Podcast though get him on and ask the questions you think are missing as I would be genuinely interested in the responses.

I think this is a harsh reaction. Dave was asking some good questions that were illiciting some good answers and discussion and it seem that Patrick was trying to cut these off. It sounded like he was trying to run strictly to a script. 

In saying all of that, it was a good pod, learned plenty and i’d suggest the pod team really have a good discussion before such guest visits, agree on go to and no go areas they will traverse and stick to it. It’s only an organisational problem I think.

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over 6 years ago · edited over 6 years ago · History

RoriM6 wrote:

TBH this was a very disappointing interview, the only hard question Domey got was right at the end by Dave and even then Patrick tried to shut him down.

Think you guys missed a trick and should have got Dave to ask the questions as he is very good at playing devils advocate, Patrick, I'm sorry just didn't seem to think Domey could do any wrong and every time someone challenged him he shot them down to a point you may as well call him Patrick Brown Nose!

This may be unfair on Pat and had the Nix PR person not been there he may have acted different. It says a HUGE amount about the Nix that they can't let their GM talk to some fans doing a pod cast without their "bouncer" being there - players I can understand, but a GM???? really

Always like the fever because thought they were independent of the main organisation, but after this, they are pretty much the same :-(


Form your own Podcast them, Ask Domey on and ask those questions and see if he comes back. You forget that Patrick Etc. have to still have a relationship with the club in order to do things like get players on, get the GM on etc. the moment you start publicly attacking him is the moment he says no thanks. I Don't doubt for a second off air they have probably hit him hard on some things, but unfortunately sometimes you need to think about the future, the fever has a good relationship with the club unlike some other fan groups and its not worth risking that. 

These lads put in a shark load of effort behind the scene's to make sure we have a forum, a atmosphere, and a fan group and i dont think its fair (for Patrick in particular) that they seem to get attacked at every corner, they aren't paid for this shark, they do it out of love for footy and the team.

Please do a Podcast though get him on and ask the questions you think are missing as I would be genuinely interested in the responses.

I think this is a harsh reaction. Dave was asking some good questions that were illiciting some good answers and discussion and it seem that Patrick was trying to cut these off. It sounded like he was trying to run strictly to a script. 

In saying all of that, it was a good pod, learned plenty and i’d suggest the pod team really have a good discussion before such guest visits, agree on go to and no go areas they will traverse and stick to it. It’s only an organisational problem I think.

I dont really think it is (but I respect your opinion that it is) some people have a history of hating on certain member's and what they do, all I am saying is if JourneyFan doesn't like it he should Poney up and see how far he gets rather than just criticising.

Personally I understand these limitations and appreciate the chat they had, its not hard hitting journalism but I think its unfair to expect that of people who are not journalists doing this as fans. 

That said I think we should close down this form of discussion and focus on the podcast itself as I think it was a good installment. 

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over 6 years ago · edited over 6 years ago · History

TBH this was a very disappointing interview, the only hard question Domey got was right at the end by Dave and even then Patrick tried to shut him down.

Think you guys missed a trick and should have got Dave to ask the questions as he is very good at playing devils advocate, Patrick, I'm sorry just didn't seem to think Domey could do any wrong and every time someone challenged him he shot them down to a point you may as well call him Patrick Brown Nose!

This may be unfair on Pat and had the Nix PR person not been there he may have acted different. It says a HUGE amount about the Nix that they can't let their GM talk to some fans doing a pod cast without their "bouncer" being there - players I can understand, but a GM???? really

Always like the fever because thought they were independent of the main organisation, but after this, they are pretty much the same :-(


You had a chance to put in questions, you put forward nothing. The questions that were asked were what those who sent questions in wanted to know. The people asking about Rudan were few, the people asking about the future were heaps. And it was me that collated this not Patrick, he trusted what I threw together was a reflection of the interest, so if you've a problem with the theme have a pop at me, not him. Dave doesn't do the interviews for a reason, just like I don't, it's been tried and it didn't work. You also seem to think Dome can just say whatever he wants without consequence. He's as open as he can be, we should be grateful for that

If you want to ask different things book an interview and go for it, you've got a blog so use it. Having a pop at Patrick because you're unhappy with the content produced when you've got the ability to produce your own content is poor

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over 6 years ago

Good pod guys and girls... am feeling ever so slightly less cynical about the future of our club - though I reverse the right to remain a bit skeptical 'til the right autographs are on a contract :p

E + R + O

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over 6 years ago

Good pod guys. Really enjoy listening to patrick interview people.

Calling all fans in Japan, come down and support the mighty nix in Osaka

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over 6 years ago · edited over 6 years ago · History

Disappointing to hear that the relationship with NZ Football is still strained and that NZF pretty much disowned them during the license saga. Surely the U20 world cup has shown the national body just how important having a professional club is to the country.

Also really exciting about a W League team in two seasons.

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over 6 years ago

So I'm guessing the W-League team is probably not going to be based in West Melbin.

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over 6 years ago

Good show. I thought Dome answered all the questions as reasonably could be expected.

Interested in whether the Visa signings eventuate now.

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over 6 years ago

It also feels like the club are putting Mark Rudan in the rear-view mirror. He's yesterday's news; no point dwelling too much on him. 

Although, it's a good read from Dome that we develop the (probably genuine) rivalry between Nix and WU.

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over 6 years ago

great pod guys, loving the positivity!

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 6 years ago

interview wasn't as shark as I was led to believe it was going to be form the above :)

I thought Domey had good honest answers.

Good to hear there is some actual future plans around wimmins stuff

Founder

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over 6 years ago

Photomac wrote:

TBH this was a very disappointing interview, the only hard question Domey got was right at the end by Dave and even then Patrick tried to shut him down.

Think you guys missed a trick and should have got Dave to ask the questions as he is very good at playing devils advocate, Patrick, I'm sorry just didn't seem to think Domey could do any wrong and every time someone challenged him he shot them down to a point you may as well call him Patrick Brown Nose!

This may be unfair on Pat and had the Nix PR person not been there he may have acted different. It says a HUGE amount about the Nix that they can't let their GM talk to some fans doing a pod cast without their "bouncer" being there - players I can understand, but a GM???? really

Always like the fever because thought they were independent of the main organisation, but after this, they are pretty much the same :-(


You had a chance to put in questions, you put forward nothing.

This is the only rebuttal required.

Ample opportunity was given for everyone to submit questions, anyone who chose not to cant complain about the quality of questions when they had an opportunity to submit to it.

LOVED the pod guys

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over 6 years ago

Hi all


I would like to publicly apologise for my criticism of Patrick and the Phoenix City guys in my post last night.

While I did feel they could have challenged Domey on some things a bit more, I realise they were trying to get through as much as possible and in no way deserved the criticism I made, especially the personal comments about Patrick.

As others have pointed out I didn't contribute any questions and also have my own platform which I could use to find out more of what I wanted to from Domey and I may well do that. 

I appreciate that the Phoenix City guys are all fans that do this in their own time and it does take a lot of organising and I think they do a great job. They help provide a rich vein of content of the Phoenix that we would unlikely get if we relied just on the mainstream media. 

So keep up the great work and once again I am truly sorry about my comments, especially about Patrick.

Dave

aka TheJourneyFan

https://thejourneyfan.blogspot.co.nz/

New Zealand Football Media Association Website of the year 2015 & 2016

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over 6 years ago · edited over 6 years ago · History

TBH this was a very disappointing interview, the only hard question Domey got was right at the end by Dave and even then Patrick tried to shut him down.

Think you guys missed a trick and should have got Dave to ask the questions as he is very good at playing devils advocate, Patrick, I'm sorry just didn't seem to think Domey could do any wrong and every time someone challenged him he shot them down to a point you may as well call him Patrick Brown Nose!

This may be unfair on Pat and had the Nix PR person not been there he may have acted different. It says a HUGE amount about the Nix that they can't let their GM talk to some fans doing a pod cast without their "bouncer" being there - players I can understand, but a GM???? really

Always like the fever because thought they were independent of the main organisation, but after this, they are pretty much the same :-(


What a load of crap this is.

Good pod guys. I thought you toed the line between asking softballs and asking the harder questions quite well; obviously it's always a hard thing to do as you don't want to needlessly offend but still want interesting answers.

Also this made me hyped re: VISA signings and if one of them is not Robben I will be pissed.

a.haak

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over 6 years ago

Hi all


I would like to publicly apologise for my criticism of Patrick and the Phoenix City guys in my post last night.

While I did feel they could have challenged Domey on some things a bit more, I realise they were trying to get through as much as possible and in no way deserved the criticism I made, especially the personal comments about Patrick.

As others have pointed out I didn't contribute any questions and also have my own platform which I could use to find out more of what I wanted to from Domey and I may well do that. 

I appreciate that the Phoenix City guys are all fans that do this in their own time and it does take a lot of organising and I think they do a great job. They help provide a rich vein of content of the Phoenix that we would unlikely get if we relied just on the mainstream media. 

So keep up the great work and once again I am truly sorry about my comments, especially about Patrick.

Dave

aka TheJourneyFan

Bump

  Supporter For Ever - Keep The Faith - Foundation Member - Never Lets FAX Get In The Way Of A Good Yarn

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over 6 years ago

Great pod guys, and thought that dome was relatively candid. Cautiously optimistic for the season ahead. 

Keep up the good work! 

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over 6 years ago

Building up for a hopeful first home game against WU. Domey sounds keen for revenge against Judan.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 6 years ago

Wouldn't be surprised if WU got a Round 1 home game and Round 2 away vs Nix.

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over 6 years ago

WU at home round 2 most likely I'd think, as FFA would want their very first game to be at home. 


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over 6 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

WU at home round 2 most likely I'd think, as Fox would want their very first game to be at home. 

Foxed


Allegedly

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over 6 years ago · edited over 6 years ago · History

Loved every moment of that, thanks boys. Made me want to fly to Wellington just for the WU match! ?

Adelaide's resident Nix supporter
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over 6 years ago

No new pod this week. 


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 6 years ago

Welcome to the Pleasure Dome?

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 6 years ago

Thanks for the heads up Patrick

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over 6 years ago

Excellent podcast. Very informative. Well done team.

Typhoon Tim
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over 6 years ago

Podding this week

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over 6 years ago

Photomac wrote:

Podding this week

fudge

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