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loyalgunner wrote:
                                   Vukovic

                     North      Siggy     Durante

                              Muscat

        Bertos          Brown      Ward        Daniel

                         Pavlovic        MacAllister

Subs: Paston, Hearfield, Greenacre, Ifill

Daniel and Bertos will need to do a lot of running to help the defence out.  Also Ward really needs to stop dicking around with the ball.  It seems he often has the option to make an easy pass or try to be fancy and invariably lose it and he always opts for the latter - horrible to watch players doing that.
Is Pavlovic back from his Aussie duty...???????
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Whitby boy wrote:
I think we need a shake up - formation and players.
 
Formation; 4-3-3 has failed - created bugger all chances and exposed our WBs neither of who are too flash.
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Disagree.  Our two best games have been under a 4-3-3 formation.  Yes we played bad in the weekend, but not convinced it was the formation that was the problem.

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Players; Less players whose heads are still in SA or wherever and more players who are mentally here. Where is the squad depth we heard about ? Where's Toto, is Diego still part of our squad ?
 

Diego is injured.

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theprof wrote:
Does anyone actually think Herbert will drop Lochhead?
 
only if injured.....he is marginally better than siggy in the full back position.
 
Bah ha ha - even after this week someone is still defending Lochy!!
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Is Pavlovic back from his Aussie duty...???????


No.
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i'm not sure of 3 at the back, but if we do, I'd like:

                      Vukovich
        North Sigmund   Durante
Bertos   Manny       Brown        Lochhead
                         Ward
             Greenacre Ifill


Effectively same team as last week except different formation. Maybe Brown would be more forward too?
Otherwise Lia may work better instead of brown. Or you could play Mac in there too?

I just dont think there are enough reasons to be dropping players apart from maybe a few, but changing formation, you would want lochead to be a part of the team.
Think Troy may be a quality player in this wingback role. But not sure bout his crossing?


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playwithFire wrote:
i'm not sure of 3 at the back, but if we do, I'd like:

                      Vukovich
        North Sigmund   Durante
Bertos   Manny       Brown        Lochhead
                         Ward
             Greenacre Ifill


Effectively same team as last week except different formation. Maybe Brown would be more forward too?
Otherwise Lia may work better instead of brown. Or you could play Mac in there too?

I just dont think there are enough reasons to be dropping players apart from maybe a few, but changing formation, you would want lochead to be a part of the team.
Think Troy may be a quality player in this wingback role. But not sure bout his crossing?


so probably chuck paston, troy, big mac and daniel on the bench, even lia instead of daniel or troy cos that gives us more option in midfield
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You all need PAX.  6595 as of this morning.  Pretty good crowd as at Monday...
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What else could he have done?
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Rojas on the bench this week. At least 20 mins to run at opposition defenders. Time to roll dice and see what he's got. Very different player to anyone else in the squad and hardly as if others are playing so well its not possible to squeeze him in for a week.

And Daniel to start (oh, have I said that already)
Marius Lacatus2010-09-20 22:10:29
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                       Vuko

            Sigs      North      Dura

                      Muscat    
                   
  Bertos      Ward          Brown     Lochhead

                                 Ifill
                    Greenacre

Paston
Hearfield
Daniel
Macallister

       
                      

  
You know we belong together...

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Not bad oska, but Lochead on last warning, Daniel starting somewhere and Rojas on bench, plus Paston starting over vuk (bc he hasnt done a thing wrong in 4 months)

And wait until our next away game. then its time to get really radical.
At least at home we have a pattern that has worked, so reason for not getting too risque. away there is no excuse not to really experiment.
Marius Lacatus2010-09-20 22:28:04
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Rojas on the bench this week. At least 20 mins to run at opposition defenders. Time to roll dice and see what he's got. Very different player to anyone else in the squad and hardly as if others are playing so well its not possible to squeeze him in for a week.


And Daniel to start (oh, have I said that already)


Isn't Marco still injured? If he isn't he's only just getting back to fitness so it'd be silly to chuck him in

Not sure about this lineup but anything to get Lochy out at this point:

-----------Vuko-------------
Siggy---North-Dura-Manny
-----------Lia------------
--Ward----------Brown-----
-Ifill---------------------Daniel
-----------Greenie-------------

Dunno if Lia is back either. If not then Manny will have to go midfield and Lochy left back..
valeo2010-09-20 22:35:18

a.haak

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dunno, he was injured ages ago. presumed was fit again. as long as he's training hurl him in there i say. cant be any worse than 15 minutes "impact" from Hearfield or Macallister.
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Daniel really deserves a start I agree.  A large part of our revival towards the end yesterday was because of his inventiveness and passing (there was one absolute pearler of a switch to Bertos who unfortunately couldn't capitalise).
 
It seems Ricki is determined to pair North and Durante at the back whereas IMHO Sigmund should be on the inside, North playing the right back role.
 
It seems to me there is an element of scapegoating going on with Lochhead. OK he wasn't great yesterday but few were. I saw some appalling lapses of concentration, even from the normally reliable Durante who was robbed of the ball in a manner very much like Ward, but he was lucky that someone mangaged to tidy up for him.
 
StopOut2010-09-20 22:49:40
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Though Daniel was given a shot against Perth and didn't do well I think he is different at home (like the rest of the team, but eh)

a.haak

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robman75 wrote:
theprof wrote:
Does anyone actually think Herbert will drop Lochhead?

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only if injured.....he is marginally better than siggy in the full back position.

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Bah ha ha - even after this week someone is still defending Lochy!!


Whilst not defending Lochead, I thought Siggy was at least as bad.
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My two pennies

Vuk
Muscat-Siggy-Dura-North
Ifill-Lia-Ward-Daniel
Green-Pav

Good old 442

No room for Bertos until he rediscovers ability to beat a man and produce a decent cross.
No room for Brown as need to do a lot more than pop up occasionally in the box.
No room for Hearfield full stop.

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Geez what did Paston do wrong?

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Got injured at the wrong time. I feel for the guy but Ricki's not going to drop Vukovic now unless he stuffs up in a big way.
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I DEMAND VICTORY ON FRIDAY NIGHT.  OR THERE'S GONNA BE f**kING TROUBLE IN A BIG WAY.  NO MORE GUN SHY sh*t IN THE BOX.  PULL f**kING FINGER.  10-0 TO THE PHOENIX VS THE PIG f**kERS FROM SWEATY JOCKSTRAPSVILLE.  OR ELSE.  sh*t WILL FLY.
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Having a bad day, Stevo?

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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valeo wrote:
Though Daniel was given a shot against Perth and didn't do well I think he is different at home (like the rest of the team, but eh)
 
bar Paston, I thought Daniel was our best player in Perth - and then got dropped. Gets his one chance (others can play weeks without doing anything in particular) in the toughest fixture of the season (arguably), does at least as well as anyone else but then gets the chop when we get to come back home to the Ring.
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Azevo wrote:
Easy 3 points I reckon. Am gonna put a bet on this one eh?


Way to jinx sh*t.
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Blame me if we lose, I am a martyr for our kin.

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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CboZ2010-09-21 11:21:21
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CboZ wrote:
From Facebook
 
Wellington Phoenix FC Bring your membership card or match-day ticket to Dockside from 5pm this Friday and get TWO Export 33's for free
 
Great deal that. So any chance of seeing toto starting or on bench this w/e if not then Riki just confirms my assumptions from looking at him pre season. That he was sh*t house.
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Ard Righ wrote:
Azevo wrote:
Easy 3 points I reckon. Am gonna put a bet on this one eh?


Way to jinx sh*t.
 
I got a bad feeling about this game...

Allegedly

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Jynxing should be a ban until after the game tbh.

Allegedly

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Whitby boy wrote:
I think we need a shake up - formation and players.
 
Formation; 4-3-3 has failed - created bugger all chances and exposed our WBs neither of who are too flash.
 
Players; Less players whose heads are still in SA or wherever and more players who are mentally here. Where is the squad depth we heard about ? Where's Toto, is Diego still part of our squad ?
 
Exceptions; Dura, North, Manny and Vuko / Paston
 
Forgiven; Ward (despite f**k up yesterday has made a big difference) and Greenie (set up as lone ranger - gets the short straw just about every game).
 
Rest; Nowhere near good enough.
 
Herbert - of course we don't want to over react but make things happen instead of hoping they'll happen.
 
Disclaimer; Angst is dissipating slowly after yesterday but some remains.
 
 
 
Not forgiven by me- did the same dumb sh*t against both Melbourne teams in front of goal. We are lucky Victory are not their former selves. Sure he can pass (Which is probably why Brown is short on passes), but seriously dumb showboating in front of goal twice in a row. For me won a game and lost a game. Not forgiven.


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Not bad oska, but Lochead on last warning, Daniel starting somewhere and Rojas on bench, plus Paston starting over vuk (bc he hasnt done a thing wrong in 4 months)

And wait until our next away game. then its time to get really radical.
At least at home we have a pattern that has worked, so reason for not getting too risque. away there is no excuse not to really experiment.
 
yeh I'd swap Daniel and Bertos.
And not real keen on Big Mac on the bench...would prefer Pavolva or....???????
 
Big Mac is a start or nothing for me.
 
Vuc holds starting spot. Incumbency is Ricki's default policy I think, and has been a good one.


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Yeh- There's only one Daniel Cortes, One Daniel Cortes!
 
And the man can hit a cross. Now we just need a striker who can bury the results or who can work together with a few good runs...Sometimes I thought Lochy/Smeltz or Smeltz/Daniel had one mind between them
 
 
edit: my first ROF goal was Daniel chipping to Smeltz from the edge of the box...magic!
martinb2010-09-21 14:30:01


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martinb wrote:
Yeh- There's only one Daniel Cortes, One Daniel Cortes!
 
And the man can hit a cross. Now we just need a striker who can bury the results or who can work together with a few good runs...Sometimes I thought Lochy/Smeltz or Smeltz/Daniel had one mind between them
 
what happened to his fan club.  I don't recall seeing the banner this season?
 
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Tegal wrote:
Jynxing should be a ban until after the game tbh.
 
^ as above
 
NO JINXING!
 
Us thinking we'd get 3 points from the Heart was our undoing.  If we underestimate the Fury, they will make us pay.
 
Come on Nix, we're behind you!
 
 
 
Oceanic62010-09-21 14:21:06
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Marco! Marco!
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Tegal wrote:
Ard Righ wrote:
Azevo wrote:
Easy 3 points I reckon. Am gonna put a bet on this one eh?


Way to jinx sh*t.
 
I got a bad feeling about this game...
 
We will lose again.  After bossing them for most of the qame they will slip in a late equaliser and then WELL into stoppage time (like much much after the minimum time) they will win a free kick just outside the penalty area and some unmarked furry will head home the winner.
 
Daniel will start but will probably miss a simple walk-in/tap-in goal.
 
Gawd I'm depressed already.
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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keen for marco, wonder how fit he is though?


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Can't make this, can someone send me regular enough text updates?

PM me.
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          Vukovic
Sigmund Dura North
           Muscat
Bertos Brown Ward Daniel
          Ifill Greenie

reserves
Paston
Lochhead
Toto/Rojas
Macallister
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How long is Pavlovic away? Just this one more game? Pity as he was starting to push for a start IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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whitby fever wrote:
robman75 wrote:
theprof wrote:
Does anyone actually think Herbert will drop Lochhead?

 

only if injured.....he is marginally better than siggy in the full back position.

 

Bah ha ha - even after this week someone is still defending Lochy!!


Whilst not defending Lochead, I thought Siggy was at least as bad.
 
Yeah - but Siggy has turned up more that 3 times in the last 3 seasons!
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Really wanna see marco
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