Was - Phoenix Transfer Speculation

Yeah people usually have the wrong idea about Allsopp - he's crap as an out and out target man. He's better dropping a little deeper. Killen could play that target man role a little better id say.

Not keen on Allsop or killen for that matter...it would just encourage the long ball up field and miss out midfield altogether. I much prefer a smaller striker who is a bit more mobile

I'd prefer both.

just my opinion on this could we get allsopp now and as everyone is saying nab killen in january and have those two upfront, greenacre operationg in behind them plus ifill and sanchez, or would that possibly be over the salary cap ? ?

Woah woah wait. What's all this about Allsopp??

Isn't in 4-4-2?

Not that I know of?

Wouldn't worry about it then!

Would think the reason we are looking at him, is the lack of other options. We need another striker, who is available, proven at this level, and not an import. That doesn't leave many options.

Victory need another defender, and doubt they have the salary cap space available for the ones they want. If they can free up space by offloading him, I am sure they would jump at the chance. Stumbling point would be if Allsopp would be willing to go.

I think people may need to look at this a little objectively.

At the moment, we have Greenacre, whose goal scoring record is not prolific. He is the only striker we have that. The other goals come from Ifill and Brown. Thats all

Allsopp is proven at this level and is a prolific scorer. Why would we not take him again? When you have nothing, anything is an upgrade and Ricki is on record that they are not going to market for an overseas import. Its this 'Victory striker' or nothing. What would you choose objectively?

Easy, Allsopp

Exactly.

Got the impression both Ricki and the new owners decided to drop interest as they were happy to look at a Marquee signing instead??

Damn, Lua Lua would of taken this league to the cleaners.

So... injury replacements. Given the squad size we may well need one or two, especially if Pasty is down. Wonder If MacMaster or someone is an option there.

Yeah I am with you, Ward and Brown is not a good partnership. I think Lindsay is a good option as if I remember rightly from the past youth WC's he is a good passer of the ball which Ward and Brown are certainly not! I am still convinced that Clapham should be in the 'Nix, I think he is a tremendous player and he world add another dimension to the midfield albeit he won't be a hack like Lia or "how does my hair look" like Ward. Plus last time I saw him against Aus. he had a really f**k off beard which is awesome

Think Lindsay needs to be given a shot off the bench- same with Smith. Lindsay could get into our midfield, especially if Lia is out.
Smith as Greenacre/Sanchez cover - and I would look to use ward out wide rather than central- where he was best for us last year in my opinion

Muscat >> Downey as a right back I think is the reason. We don't leak goals with him there. though the lack of Muscat in the midfield hurt too...

Muscat will be our man this season...wish there were two or three of him

Downey probably will get a chance to prove himself against someone other than Righters...

Ricki saying he's not considering adding to the squad atm. I think that was in the article on the Official Website, or else it was on 442. Fark, you've got to be kidding me. Hopefully Smith is the goods.

Have to wait and hear on the extent of Vinnies injury and how long he is off for. But if falls out i'd imagine Chettleburgh will get the call up.

Yeah it sounds like the injuries aren't too bad, and if a couple don't come right then we might need to strengthen. Paulinho2011-10-10 16:51:26

If Ifill's out for any meaningful length of time I would hope Ricki would be re-opening negotiations with some of those European connections. Dakota Lucas ain't no Ifill.

+1

Who is he registered with for O League? He was announced today in Manawatu's team on the ASB Premiership website...

I'd heard he was off to Waitak, must have been a change.

That took 22 hours longer than people tipped.

We could have signed him, but deemed him unnecessary/ not as good as Rigters.

"I then went to Wellington Phoenix for a week but when I went there, I sort of got injured and I played in a formation which ... was a 4-5-1 and it was like me dropping onto their deepest midfielder, which doesn't really suit my style of play."

Mehmet said that when he signed for the Glory, so I dont think we would have seen the best of him anyway.

So what's happened to these rumours of a Victory player being on the radar? Seems to have gone quiet

I don't think there was ever a Victory player about to be signed. Ricki said he would look at possible players from Melbourne once it became clear which players were not getting game time. That will take a couple more weeks.

With injury replacements I highly doubt we can get outstanding quality as they are only temporary. But in terms of saying ASB premiership players are unproven it is true yet with such a depleted squad we really don't have anything to lose. Look at manny, injury replacement and now he is one of our best, Watson with Adelaide for he is now always in the squad each game. I guess all I am saying is that in our current situation ASB premiership players are not such a farfetched idea as I doubt we can get top players in the next few weeks. There is a lot of talent in new Zealand and this would be a prime time to find another manny.

I'm not anti that concept at most points but the difference here is that Ifill is one of our key players, probably the first name on the team sheet.  Cover for him needs to be a different level to what is available in the ASB Premiership.