we need a goalscorer

^^^ just to add to that....if one of the island boys made it into the nix.....the fanbase would go up bigtime

yarn.

How come getting a good striker seem such a mission for us since season II....sigh...

Yarn not yawn.

Bring back Dadi!

This. Although he hasn't been playing for at least a season now.

There are currently more PI players in the Premier League than there are Kiwis ie Cahill at Everton whereas Nelsen hasn't played all season. No relevance, just a useless fact.

And a PI player has won both a World Cup winners medal and a Champion's League winners medal too. Maybe the Pacific Islands should be helping New Zealand football develop!

correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't tim cahill spend a large chunk of his early childhood in auckland?  clutching at straws i know..

If only Tim Cahill played for Samoa...

Agree. But considering Australia is in the Asian federation, it seems like they lean towards that more. Especially with that Asian import slot.

BRING BACK G**!!!!

The best two players at this level is Mulligan, who had his chance and was not good enough and Vicelich who is not interested in playing in Wellington.The rest has been mentioned but I'll thrown out another name that has not been mentioned, and is not good enough, Allan Pearce. Jeff Vader2011-11-10 16:18:27

Jeff Vader2011-11-10 16:20:48

and look at the number of professionals from other random  leagues who have trialled here but not made the grade. there's so many professional footballers in the world that anyone playing as an amateur is just realistically not going to be good enough for the a-league. There's a few kiwi lads playing in random leagues around the world (Kris Bright, Greg Draper etc) that probably aren't good enough for the a-league either. sad but true

Well, look at the number of players who play in A league for a number of years and also aren't good enough. They train , twice a day, 5 days a week, they have 12-14 preseason matches (ASB season for 6 clubs lasts only 14 games) + all season and still perform poorly week by week.
We already know that, in the past, Nix were not particularly interested in developing NZ players. If Nix are not interested,  young kiwi's must fight for one of the five foreign spots in any other A league team. Of course, their chances of getting one of those spots are very slim. The reason being  every club has expectations that these 5 players will be driving force of the team.Therefore as anonymous young players from  NZ, they don't have many options.

P.S. Unless Krishna has serious personality problem, and that is the reason why he wasn't signed, I would see him much better attacking (wide) option then Leo.

P.S.S. Interesting rule that Nix can sign as many Aussies as they like, but the rest of A league can't sign kiwis...NZFF surely must lobby for this rule to change.That would an excellent window of opportunities for young kiwis.

Whitby boy2011-11-10 18:33:48

When did the ACFC thread move over to the Nix forum?
Junior822011-11-10 19:20:22

Sarcasm want help. I wish Nix to be successful as much as you do, just don't like boring style of football which they currently play.

cheers J82

I don't think they have played boring football in the first three games.

Boring as hell.  There was the Newcastle display which was as dominant a display as any side outside Brisbane have had this season.

Then there was going to Perth and playing the leagues biggest spenders off the Park.

Then there was the game against the leagues biggest names in the Victory which we could easily have won.

Owesome clearly watched the 2nd half of Gold Coast and the Central Coast match and that is it.

Amusing that the Knights played under rules where there were no restrictions on kiwis for the other sides and they had f**k all of them.  Now the Phoenix exist and that rule is in place there are many more kiwis in the A-League.
Hard News2011-11-10 20:29:23

WB, I am aware  that a number of kiwi players have trained and trialled with the Nix.

 What I am saying is: we would benefit much more if the Nix had for a year or two, any of the promising young kiwi players  rather then Toto, Diego, MacAlistair, Kwasnik and so many other so called "professional players".
This sentence is used to often  "NZ players  are not good enough". Who is to say that there are no players in New Zealand good enough to play in A league? I can agree that there is no money in NZ football, Infrastructure, govt support, fan base in each city, but can't agree that there is no talent in NZ (maybe we don't know how to develop raw talent?).

Remember that, at the beginning of his career, while still unknown, Ronaldo (the Brazilian) was rejected by three professional clubs in Brazil, only to be successful in his fourth attempt. The difference is he had several clubs to go to, unlike young kiwi.

Being hamstrung by being an NZ team in an A league set up sounds like blackmail to me. On the other hand, if you are happy to be just an additional market to AFF and still grateful to be in such a position, fair enough...
I thought, with the Nix and AW being relatively successful over the last few years there would be some room for negotiation, but I could be wrong.

Greetings to all. Nothing wrong to have different opinion...

You forget that a number of good NZ players go overseas before the Nix have a chance and plenty go to US Colleges as well.  Those players may be the ones who are A-League quality but choose other paths.

Do you know how often a New Zealander has won the Golden boot in NZ domestic football in the last dozen years?  Two.  Smeltz, and Pearce last year yet you can name a better option to score 8 goals as a target man for an A-League side in the ASB Premiership born in New Zealand than MacAlister?

The NZ rule isn't going to change because the Aus sides have to be compliant with Asian Champions League rules, therefore New Zealanders will remain imports.  This changed when they moved to Asia.

Derek Riordan has apparently been released from the Chinese team he was at, and as a free agent is able to sign outside of the transfer window.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Riordan

Phoenix should try, but do we even have such a thing as a 'scout' at the moment or are we relying on Ricki searching for players while playing Football Manager on his laptop?

HN, I hope I didn't upset you with my comments.

You mentioned MacAlister: how many games he played in A league and how many goals he scored? What is the ratio?

What about all other players signed by Nix who were not really success?

By chance I know a few players who went to US Colleges, but were never approached by the Nix. Why?
The key word for target man is "DEVELOP". What you are talking about is finished product. Well, if there is such a player in NZ, he would not be patient to wait for the Nix call.

Would it be better for NZ football to move to Asia too...

saw Kosta at wgtn airport....

Just saying....

So as a young player needing/wanting to "develop" and progress your fledgling career... would you see the opportunity to do that at the Phoenix with very limited playing opportunities; and any you do get likely to be the odd 45 minute burst against an NZFC team and preseason games against local clubs; or - playing regularly in a "professional" set up in the US or in the lower leagues of Europe?
I know what my choice would be, and I know where most young kids parents/coaches, etc would probably push them toward also - and I wouldn't think it's Newtown. Understandably.
If we at least had a Youth League team a lot of that changes, and perhaps in the next few seasons it will. But in the meantime... we haven't a lot to offer any kid with "potential" until such time as they are at a level where they can push for a starting spot. And as we've seen - it's easy for an Aussie club to cherry pick them as they can guarantee that playing time, whether in the 1st XI or Yoofs.

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I know what my choice would be, and I know where most young kids parents/coaches, etc would probably push them toward also - and I wouldn't think it's Newtown. Understandably.
If we at least had a Youth League team a lot of that changes, and perhaps in the next few seasons it will. But in the meantime... we haven't a lot to offer any kid with "potential" until such time as they are at a level where they can push for a starting spot. And as we've seen - it's easy for an Aussie club to cherry pick them as they can guarantee that playing time, whether in the 1st XI or Yoofs.[/QUOTE]

I couldn't agree more...

Coming in on loan i hope !!

so he can sit on the bench again?

Bolo Zenden has just been released by Celtic - he'll want some game time - bring him to the Nix!

There's an All White who scores quite a few goals from the midfield. Currently in contract, but I hear Ricki knows his manager quite well.