Once more with feeling: we needed new owners who understood how to run a football club. All indications are that Welnix don't. Wouldn't be surprised if Iffy et al. get poached in the next couple of months.
after being wrong for 6 month on every single issue facing the club you still see fit to make pronouncements regarding the running of the club. a reminder, if we'd had your way we'd have a bankrupt owner. You're in no position to lecture anyone
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That's a completely unnecessary post JD, just a straight up personal attack.
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Let me put it this way then - is it a surprise that the 2 people most critical of the new owners are the ones who were most resistant to the change of ownership? It's fairly transparent...
If you were genuinely looking at the issues without the baggage of the past 6 months then fine, but you're not, and that to me makes your posts on this issue irrelevant. Doloras and you are engaging in a bit of cheap points scoring against the new owners which none of us need.
We know what the issues are, they know what the issues are - it's being dealt with and it's going to take a bit of time to set up an off field structure and a governance structure to take the club forward. Once that is completed your criticisms will be valid, and I am sure I will have my own.
Let's not forget that we are in this situation because St Terry held on until a week before the season started.
Normo's coming home
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World class striker and Jap/Korean babes FTW!
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As a mod I sy no tits. My 'friend' says yay (in joke).
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Let me put it this way then - is it a surprise that the 2 people most critical of the new owners are the ones who were most resistant to the change of ownership? It's fairly transparent...
If you were genuinely looking at the issues without the baggage of the past 6 months then fine, but you're not, and that to me makes your posts on this issue irrelevant. Doloras and you are engaging in a bit of cheap points scoring against the new owners which none of us need.
If you were genuinely looking at the issues without the baggage of the past 6 months then fine, but you're not, and that to me makes your posts on this issue irrelevant. Doloras and you are engaging in a bit of cheap points scoring against the new owners which none of us need.
Jesus JD, you really know how to hold a grudge.
Listen, if I am one of the "2 people most critical of the new owners" then they are basically copping it sweet 'cause I'm not even being that critical. Buy a striker. Get some staff. Oh yeah, that's some tough love right there. Hope I don't make Gareth cry.
You, however, are just a persistently aggressive and rude person, consistently making personal attacks in order to reinforce your views. But that's cool. Each to his own. I still want to shoot the sh*t with you.
Let's get back to talking about the actual issues with a couple of questions. Are you happy that 6 weeks after having taken over the new owners still haven't taken the simple step of getting in a goalkeeping coach? Do you think it was reasonable of Mark Paston to make this complaint through the media or was he out of line?
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@Hiring a Goalkeeper Coach. Wouldn't that be Ricki's department?
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Contracts in front of 3 european strikers? How would we have paid for that? I'd believe it when I saw it.
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Let me put it this way then - is it a surprise that the 2 people most critical of the new owners are the ones who were most resistant to the change of ownership? It's fairly transparent...
If you were genuinely looking at the issues without the baggage of the past 6 months then fine, but you're not, and that to me makes your posts on this issue irrelevant. Doloras and you are engaging in a bit of cheap points scoring against the new owners which none of us need.
If you were genuinely looking at the issues without the baggage of the past 6 months then fine, but you're not, and that to me makes your posts on this issue irrelevant. Doloras and you are engaging in a bit of cheap points scoring against the new owners which none of us need.
Jesus JD, you really know how to hold a grudge.
Listen, if I am one of the "2 people most critical of the new owners" then they are basically copping it sweet 'cause I'm not even being that critical. Buy a striker. Get some staff. Oh yeah, that's some tough love right there. Hope I don't make Gareth cry.
You, however, are just a persistently aggressive and rude person, consistently making personal attacks in order to reinforce your views. But that's cool. Each to his own. I still want to shoot the sh*t with you.
Let's get back to talking about the actual issues with a couple of questions. Are you happy that 6 weeks after having taken over the new owners still haven't taken the simple step of getting in a goalkeeping coach? Do you think it was reasonable of Mark Paston to make this complaint through the media or was he out of line?
Oh harden the f**k up and stop whinging. Boo hoo JD said this and that. If you read your posts, you are not above making personal attacks either. You'd be whinging if Terry was still the owner and we were in the same predicament and you are whinging now because the new owners are trying to assess whats going on so that can make improvement yet the position we are in has not changed. At least the new owners want to build the club. Terry spent the last year dismantling it (by comparison) and before you say otherwise, the new owners didn't inherit a healthy club.
At least have some brains to give them time to get their feet under the desk.
Jeff Vader2011-11-03 22:20:38
Grumpy old bastard alert
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The mods need to take control. Start booking posters who roll about on the board faking injured feelings!
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Yellow Fever needs more yellow card.
Grumpy old bastard alert
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AHHH!!!! Jeff Vader just injured my feelings with that post!!! I think I'm clinically depressed!!!
Well, I'm sure going to be listening to a lot of Nick Cave from now on, anyway!
Or Kylie Minogue, at least...
Well, I'm sure going to be listening to a lot of Nick Cave from now on, anyway!
Or Kylie Minogue, at least...
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@Hiring a Goalkeeper Coach. Wouldn't that be Ricki's department?
Not if no one will pay for it.
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Oh... and we only have a red card and you're all crusing for one so STFU and play nice and JD, stop being wrong.
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JD's opening salvo a page back, against Doloras, was just plain nasty
Not taking sides here - I don't agree with a lot that doloras says either, but she doesn't deserve that and she's been very PC with comments on you JD, even if through gritted teeth - the least you can do is afford her the same respect
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Arise, Sir Paulm the tardy, companion of the Ivory Brotherhood.
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Meh, we still need a goalscorer.
Prove me wrong tonight though boys! (do they sell humble pie at the RoF amongst the rancid burgers and cold chips?).
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JD & Doloras...its getting too personal. We are all entitled to an opinion, rightly or wrongly
Mods take control.....................
What is this - censorship in the name of free speech? Nobody, except for you, has explicitly asked for anyone or anything to be barred from discussion.
I never asked for anyone to be barred...read the post FFS
" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow
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Meh, we still need a goalscorer.
Prove me wrong tonight though boys! (do they sell humble pie at the RoF amongst the rancid burgers and cold chips?).
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I don't think many people deny we need a proven finisher. Its just not going to come. As Ricki himself said, the Phoenix themselves are creating the chances, its the players on the park that need to finish them
And since you said this
[QUOTE=terminator_x]If the Phoenix win on Friday it will equal our best ever start to the season (7 pts from 5 games, achieved in 10/11).
07/08 DLLWD 5 pts
08/09 DLLDL 2 pts
09/10 LWDLD 5 pts
10/11 DWLLW 7 pts
Then if this is our equal best start to the season, then why do we need to sign a goalscorer? Surely they are performing equally the best they ever have? Should that not satisfy you?
Grumpy old bastard alert
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JD & Doloras...its getting too personal. We are all entitled to an opinion, rightly or wrongly
Mods take control.....................[/QUOTE]
What is this - censorship in the name of free speech? Nobody, except for you, has explicitly asked for anyone or anything to be barred from discussion.
What is this - censorship in the name of free speech? Nobody, except for you, has explicitly asked for anyone or anything to be barred from discussion.
I never asked for anyone to be barred...read the post FFS
At times like this, I find myself wishing that I'd previously explained this difficult point upthread.
OH WAIT.
[QUOTE=Stripes]"anyone or anything" has a different meaning to "anyone". 
Saying that the discussion has gotten too (anything) and asking for moderation seems like the equivalent of asking for that line of argument to be banned.
Saying that the discussion has gotten too (anything) and asking for moderation seems like the equivalent of asking for that line of argument to be banned.Next time you're making accusations about reading, it might pay to practice what you preach. 
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Once more with feeling: we needed new owners who understood how to run a football club. All indications are that Welnix don't. Wouldn't be surprised if Iffy et al. get poached in the next couple of months.
after being wrong for 6 month on every single issue facing the club you still see fit to make pronouncements regarding the running of the club. a reminder, if we'd had your way we'd have a bankrupt owner. You're in no position to lecture anyone
That's a completely unnecessary post JD, just a straight up personal attack.
Let me put it this way then - is it a surprise that the 2 people most critical of the new owners are the ones who were most resistant to the change of ownership? It's fairly transparent...
If you were genuinely looking at the issues without the baggage of the past 6 months then fine, but you're not, and that to me makes your posts on this issue irrelevant. Doloras and you are engaging in a bit of cheap points scoring against the new owners which none of us need.
We know what the issues are, they know what the issues are - it's being dealt with and it's going to take a bit of time to set up an off field structure and a governance structure to take the club forward. Once that is completed your criticisms will be valid, and I am sure I will have my own.
Let's not forget that we are in this situation because St Terry held on until a week before the season started.
Well said JD....100% support your comments
But a word of advice......just ignore it.
People who come on here and make stupid dumb comments like " it appears Welnix appear to have no idea how to run a football club" are not worth responding to.
I thought the recent comments made by the chair of Welnix to be reasoned, sensible and totally appropriate to our current situation.
There are better things to do in life than waste time with narrow minded people!!!
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Meoooooowww!
Jingers. As a wise man once said... arguing with people on the internet, now THERE's a good use of your time!
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.
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Calm down and just be happy people :P at the end we are all on the same boat and we are all Nix supporters :)
Also today is GAME DAY!! let's all stay positve and look forward to a big win!!
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Meoooooowww!
Jingers. As a wise man once said... arguing with people on the internet, now THERE's a good use of your time!
Tell that to the guy who burst into this thread to start a dispute, and then went passive-aggressive when people argued back.
You shouldn't have any trouble finding him.
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Meoooooowww!
Jingers. As a wise man once said... arguing with people on the internet, now THERE's a good use of your time!
Tell that to the guy who burst into this thread to start a dispute, and then went passive-aggressive when people argued back.
You shouldn't have any trouble finding him.
This
Grumpy old bastard alert
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JD & Doloras...its getting too personal. We are all entitled to an opinion, rightly or wrongly
Mods take control.....................[/QUOTE]
What is this - censorship in the name of free speech? Nobody, except for you, has explicitly asked for anyone or anything to be barred from discussion.
What is this - censorship in the name of free speech? Nobody, except for you, has explicitly asked for anyone or anything to be barred from discussion.
I never asked for anyone to be barred...read the post FFS
At times like this, I find myself wishing that I'd previously explained this difficult point upthread.
OH WAIT.
[QUOTE=Stripes]"anyone or anything" has a different meaning to "anyone". Saying that the discussion has gotten too (anything) and asking for moderation seems like the equivalent of asking for that line of argument to be banned.
Saying that the discussion has gotten too (anything) and asking for moderation seems like the equivalent of asking for that line of argument to be banned.Next time you're making accusations about reading, it might pay to practice what you preach.
Might also pay you to stop looking for an excuse to argue a point that was in essence a request for all those who post on here to respect the fact that all of us can post our thoughts without it becoming personal
you also oviously dont get the....' Mods take control'..in joke
" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow
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Stripes you are a clever little poster, for some reason I picture you as a robert christgau type, tip tapping away with a grin on your face
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Meh, we still need a goalscorer.
Now thats a good band for gamedayProve me wrong tonight though boys! (do they sell humble pie at the RoF amongst the rancid burgers and cold chips?).
COYN
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Next time you're making accusations about reading, it might pay to practice what you preach.
Might also pay you to stop looking for an excuse to argue a point that was in essence a request for all those who post on here to respect the fact that all of us can post our thoughts without it becoming personal
you also oviously dont get the....' Mods take control'..in joke
If it offends you that much, you're welcome to stop butting into arguments and making comments about the faculties of other posters. It doesn't really bother me.
It doesn't really bother me.As for 'mods take control'? It's old and busted. The cool kids are faking emotional injury today - because I was doing it yesterday. 
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Next time you're making accusations about reading, it might pay to practice what you preach.
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As for 'mods take control'?� It's old and busted.� The cool kids are faking emotional injury today - because I was doing it yesterday.
JESUS WEPT!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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JESUS WEPT!
In fairness, I think you have the power to bring that one back.
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"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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After today's game, time for these new owners to open their wallets. I wonder if Morgan actually was at the game today to see how poor we were?AucklandPhoenix2011-11-04 22:27:19
Auckland will rise once more
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More than ever, this. Apart from the goal, Greeny didn't have any chances at goal.
Yellow Fever - Misery loves company
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so it's not a goal scorer we need, its a decent midfield and solid defence! we have a goal scorer, in fact two!
Queenslander 3x a year.
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More than ever, this. Apart from the goal, Greeny didn't have any chances at goal.
Did his best to miss it as well!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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After today's game, time for these new owners to open their wallets. I wonder if Morgan actually was at the game today to see how poor we were?
There's a difference between looking at the long term and sitting here with a team of journeyman waiting for us to lose every game with the exact same match day squad.
Maybe if the squad was filled with six or seven Under-23 year-olds then we could rebuild and I'm sure they'd be better for it next year.
But is Paston, Warner, SigmUnd, Bertos, Brown, Greenacre, Ifill, Daniel, Lochhead and co going to be better in 2013???
Yes we need an academy. Yes we need to develop young players. But we need results to bring in the fans. We need coaching staff and we need more than 15 players to juggle every seven days.
Welnix seem happy to let this season be forgotten. They don't want to open their wallets for a big name. But we don't need a big name. The Roar doesn't even have a big name! We just need fresh faces, options, and someone who we can build a future squad around.
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