Where did 2,446 fans go?????

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I think they should look at making it free for every kid under 12. They could give the tickets out at primary schools in the Wellington District.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Oceanic6 wrote:

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Oh not really a rugby fan - with or without the shield. I don't have children myself however thought it was a good idea to get more young ones along on to the games at family friendly times. Don't know if they club have tried it or not. $60 is a lot for a day out, you'd pay roughly the same to take a family to the movies I'm guessing.

$60 for a Nix game, or Te Papa for free, its wasy to see in the current financial uncertainty how easy it is for families to go do something cheaper in Welly.

Free season ticket for U12's with every adult season ticket bought maybe?

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

going to Te Papa every other week could get a bit tedious

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Oceanic6 wrote:

Junior82 wrote:

Oceanic6 wrote:

A family pass costs $60. No including the booking fee. Another drive past the ROF and saw that the Lions game allows under 14s in for free...there maybe have to have a paying adult with them but it's still a good deal.

Only if you like rugby (minus the shield)!

Doesn't this prove it's not really that much?

2 adult tickets + 2 kids tickets for $60 is a bargain in my eyes, you're basically getting the kids for $2 each!

The same 2 adults and 2 kids would cost about 60-70 pounds in Scotland, i.e. around $180. I know it's not a completely accurate comparison, but this is the SPL I am talking about, not the EPL which would of course be even more than that. The difference in salaries etc isn't a huge amount different, and certainly not enough to compensate for the massive difference in price.

Basically, in terms of ticket prices for sports in NZ, you guys have it pretty good (other than the proposed prices for the Rugby World Cup at least).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Steve-O wrote:

Oceanic6 wrote:

Oh not really a rugby fan -ï¿½with or without the shield.ï¿½ I don't have children myself however thoughtï¿½it was aï¿½good idea to get more young ones along onï¿½to theï¿½games at family friendly times.ï¿½ Don't know if they club have tried it or not.ï¿½ $60 is a lot for a day out, you'd pay roughly the same to take a family to the movies I'm guessing.

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Doesn't this prove it's not really that much?

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2 adult tickets + 2 kids tickets for $60 is a bargain in my eyes, you're basically getting the kids for $2 each!

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The same 2 adults and 2 kids would cost about 60-70 pounds in Scotland, i.e. around $180. I know it's not a completely accurate comparison, but this is the SPL I am talking about, not the EPL which would of course be even more than that. The difference inï¿½salaries etc isn't a huge amount different, and certainly not enough to compensate for the massive difference in price.

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Basically, in terms of ticket prices for sports in NZ, you guys have it pretty good (other than the proposed prices for the Rugby World Cup at least).

Movies: Cheap Tuesdays is about $45 for 2 adults and 2 kids, plus a gazillion more for popcorn and a small mortgage for car parking (unless out at skycity where it's free). Don't know what it would be for Friday- Sunday so probably not too far off $60.

For a silver family pass going to all home games bar ChCh it works out around $45-50 per game (plus a gazillion for chips and hotdogs).

Yes it's cheap Steve-O but we can still grumble can't we?!

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

Well, as resident grumbler, I suppose I'll allow it, but don't expect me to stop moaning about people moaning about prices

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Feverish wrote:

going to Te Papa every other week could get a bit tedious

Plenty of friends with kids who seem to always want to go to Te Papa!

Some would say going to see the Nix ever other week would be tedious too ;)

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Well, can have best of both worlds:

Week 1 - Nix home game ($45-60)
Week 2 - Te Papa (free)
Week 3 - Nix
Week 4 - Maritime museum
etc etc

- Sport AND Culture...only in Wgtn!

(c.f. Country AND Western - in Palmy)

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

You can also take the kids on the cable car to the Botanical Gardens, as our friends did last weekend.

Good walk/cycle around Oriental Parade on a nice day.

Do the tour of Parliament

Window shopping around Lambton Quay/Willis Street/Cuba Mall

All things you can do with a family that don't cost much.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Or yell your lungs out every two or so weeks and listen to rude words from the grown-ups and your parents won't tell you off!

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

Hmmm. Addicks for Saturday games you only have n=2 observations. Pretty unbalanced sample to draw your conclusion.

Can you show your workings and your probabiity values?

I'd suggest you undertake a multivariate analysis and gather as much data as you can (weather on the day, other events in town, OCR, balance of payments etc). Come back in a couple of year's time when the analysis is complete and by then you'll have another two seasons of data to add in.

I could throw in a few more pretend Saturday games, but they would reflect more on my imagination than the number of people who really attended. Have I buggered it up, because those were the only Saturdays I could find.

Was just interested in days of the week as the variable factor. Wasn't as conclusive as I thought it might be - I'll go look into the weather readings from those days now eh, and whether something else was on (rugby, red bull cliptomaniacs - since Sky think it's so damn important - or boobs on bikes)

14/11/09

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

slacKers 63 wrote:

ForteanTimes wrote:

There were a few people missing, who normally sit around us, one guy I can track down when I'm back at work. A couple we used to sit with never renewed as I guess it's not trendy enough anymore - lightweights.

Wow, never been called trendy before, especially after having a season ticket for 26 straight years for an unglamorous club like Wolves, oh to relive those decadent cool hunting Tuesday nights in downtown Grimbsy and Portsmouth in the middle of winter!

Obviously all this pales into insignificance for a heavyweight, forum loving, lanyard wearing hardcore football fan like you Fortean.

Oh by the way I got made redundant in May so we couldnï¿½t justify buying season tickets for the Phoenix this season as our cat needed a new Burberry raincoat and I wanted a Mercedes Benz convertible for summer.

Miss you too. Over and out.

S63

Hey Hey you are still alive!!!! Don't get all tetchy. I'm really Sorry to hear about the job mate honestly that sucks. Good that the cat is doing well.
ForteanTimes2009-09-10 13:36:31

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

The more points Nix got on the table
The more fans come back

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

and also
If the price set up on $12-$15(Adult)

Any chance there ll be 15,000 ppl get into Westpac?

$25 x 8,000 = $200,000
$15 x 15,000=$225,000

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Compared to other sporting events, nix prices are a bargain - sure I don't have kids, nor even a girlfriend, but $60 for a family ticket does seem pretty reasonable.

A real mystery why so many stayed away, hopefully some answers will be provided by the crowd at the next game. i.e if it is sundays that get better crowds, or more of a general slump in numbers...

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Perhaps whilst some fans were at the ROF in Beer, the missing fans were there in Spirits??

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Terry wrote:

and also
If the price set up on $12-$15(Adult)

Any chance there ll be 15,000 ppl get into Westpac?

$25 x 8,000 = $200,000
$15 x 15,000=$225,000

The problem there is devauling the product. If the price goes down to $15 you may get one good crowd. If the team loses or the weather is poor for a few home games you can't just shove the price back up. You could make it $8 I suppose and hope for 25,000

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

And you'd assume those extra people turning up at a cheaper price would by other stuff / the people turning up already may be able to buy more.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I will say that beer is too expensive at ROF though, there's no denying that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Would be good if they picked one game where all kids under a certain age got in for free, or even do a buy one ticket get another adult halfprice deal, would be good to get more folks in and hopefully a few more catch the 'nix bug.

In the current financial climate the club need to be clever and make it a good offer to attract those who are maybe interested in going along to see what the fuss is all about.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

THey did 'kids go free' last year. Would imagine they will do it again when the Rugby finishes.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

If the stadium sold some decent food that wasn't a complete rip-off, that would attract more people to the stadium as well.

The prices for everything have been put up, but the food is still crap.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Steve-O wrote:

I will say that beer is too expensive at ROF though, there's no denying that!

So it's cheap to get in but expensive to drink (or eat).

Now I recall someone grumbling about grumblers about ticket prices...

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

Steve-O wrote:

I will say that beer is too expensive at ROF though, there's no denying that!

So it's cheap to get in but expensive to drink (or eat).

Now I recall someone grumbling about grumblers about ticket prices...

It is cheap to get in, yes...but I think the beer is too expensive.

As I am a bit partial to getting 4 beers at the game, that's $24 and only $4 less than I've paid for my ticket! $6 isn't too bad for a beer, but in a small plastic bottle, I think it's a bit overpriced.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I worked out that an Adult silver season pass (as part of a family) was around $15-16 per game (not incl ChCh). That almost saves you another beer.

Only flaw with that is the other adult and two kids tickets you have to get (and as a result even if you wanted too you probably couldn't afford the beers!)

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Ard Righ wrote:

If the stadium sold some decent food that wasn't a complete rip-off, that would attract more people to the stadium as well.

The prices for everything have been put up, but the food is still crap.

well it's about TIME that SOMEONE pointed that out.

their fries are never cooked. such a shame. and their fish is probably shark.
ew.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

phoenix_luver wrote:

Ard Righ wrote:

If the stadium sold some decent food that wasn't a complete rip-off, that would attract more people to the stadium as well.

The prices for everything have been put up, but the food is still crap.

well it's about TIME that SOMEONE pointed that out.

their fries are never cooked. such a shame. and their fish is probably shark.
ew.

Actually I think LG points it out every 7.9 seconds.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I kinda liked the fish and chips, we didnt think you get them any more..?
Chicken and chips was the only thing we found last game...

But the rest of the food is rubbish. Burgers are the worst.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

you can still get the fish and chips. I love those mini donuts. The rest of the food is gross, so I take my own snacks.

As for the beer it's a tad overpriced, when I was overseas you got bigger servings but then you had to TIP! So parted with a $10er per beer! That bites.

I refuse to pay for water there too, so take a empty bottle and fill it up at the water fountains.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

phoenix_luver wrote:

Ard Righ wrote:

If the stadium sold some decent food that wasn't a complete rip-off, that would attract more people to the stadium as well.

The prices for everything have been put up, but the food is still crap.

well it's about TIME that SOMEONE pointed that out.

their fries are never cooked. such a shame. and their fish is probably shark.
ew.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flake_(fish)
Nothing wrong with that :p

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

If people go to a sporting event, its for 1 reason only. to watch sport. Food isnt the main attraction. what a load of crap. if people think like that then they are a soft as nuts!! Crowds dont want to pay to go watch a team lose. so moral of the story...

if they win...then they will COME!!

darkhorse2009-09-13 14:20:48

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

after our win today, I expect to see a vast improvement on the 7,578 9 days ago

cmon Phoenix 3 points are waiting for you...

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Only in New Zealand can you start a thread on football fans and end up discussing fish and chips!

Now back to Fever Fans and Religion, I can remember when the Pope came to town half of Wellington turned up to see him, so next week when GOD arrives in the rof I hope to see all you nix fans come and pay the big man some respect!!!

10,000 strong will be just what the lads need, c`mon the nix

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Quick scan of this round's crowds - only Jets vs Roar had modest numbers - under 7k and at the other end a whoping 17k for the Tards vs Nix.

Would be nice to get another 10k crowd but previous seasons' trends don't support this.

However, the Lord moves in mysterious ways... (sometimes crawling along the sideline with his nose pressed to the white paint).

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

I was pretty stoked that that many people are turning up in Aussie to see us play. The crowds at Brisbane and Sydney have been solid too. I think 3pm Sunday is a good time for a decent crowd, 10k would indeed be good this weekend. Weather should hold too. I just hope a course I'm on finished early enough on Sunday!

14/11/09

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Yeah here is hoping for a big crowd. but i am not so confident. Been talking up the Fowler element to my mates. Buit the response has sort of been, "Oh yeah, nah ill just watch it on TV."Im picking 7 thousand. But would absoluty loved to be proved wrong.

How many Livepool suporters in Welly.

All Aboard the Phoenix/ All Whites Bandwagon!!

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

according to my quick maths, if all the season ticket holders brought along 5 people, we'd have a crowd of over 12,000.

The WPFC website have taken away the season ticket counter. I'm assuming we have more than 2400. ie 2400 x 5 = 12000

Rockin!

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Ard Righ wrote:

If the stadium sold some decent food that wasn't a complete rip-off, that would attract more people to the stadium as well.

The prices for everything have been put up, but the food is still crap.

Child - "Dad can we go to the footy today"

Dad - " Sure son why not? O wait. the food is crap. So no we can't go"

Can't see that the quality of food would do bugger all to improve numbers to a 2 hour event.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Who goes to sports games and expects good food anyway?

a.haak

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Ard Righ wrote:

If the stadium sold some decent food that wasn't a complete rip-off, that would attract more people to the stadium as well.

The prices for everything have been put up, but the food is still crap.

Child - "Dad can we go to the footy today"

Dad - " Sure son why not? O wait. the food is crap. So no we can't go"

Might try that one next weekend and see what the reaction is!

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