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WPM R4 vs Newcastle Jets | Fri 10th December | 9:45pm | SS7

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over 4 years ago
That was coming tbh 
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over 4 years ago
So poor.


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over 4 years ago
FFS - is this gonna be the story of our season, playing teams into form?
so much space given to their wide men, Reno putting no effort in to hep his defender out, just poor.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 4 years ago · edited over 4 years ago · History
Clearly 2nd best so far. McGarry caught out again. Guys a liability, has no football brain.

a.haak

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over 4 years ago
It had to come, playing really well or our we playing like shark
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over 4 years ago
Felt like we were doing desperate defence for too long.

Definitely felt like it was coming.
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over 4 years ago
theprof
FFS - is this gonna be the story of our season, playing teams into form?
so much space given to their wide men, Reno putting no effort in to hep his defender out, just poor.
 Renos been poor in general honestly. Not really sure what's going wrong with him.
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over 4 years ago
Hooper and Ball's passing and touches are amateur.


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over 4 years ago
theprof
I've said it before, but I'll say it again, Im really not happy with Rufer being one of our starting CM's, he is so slow on the ball, takes so long to look for a pass, which inevitably results in him passing back to the defence. If he was just half a second quicker with his decision making he'd see Ball and Hooper in better positions to receive the ball.
Neither Rufer or Lewis should be starting CMs, if we're being honest.

a.haak

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over 4 years ago
A long way behind the 8-ball at the minute. Can't say that wasn't coming...
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over 4 years ago
This is a tough fudgeing watch
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over 4 years ago
We're playing like we're 1-0 up in the 90th minute.


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over 4 years ago
valeo
theprof
I've said it before, but I'll say it again, Im really not happy with Rufer being one of our starting CM's, he is so slow on the ball, takes so long to look for a pass, which inevitably results in him passing back to the defence. If he was just half a second quicker with his decision making he'd see Ball and Hooper in better positions to receive the ball.
Neither Rufer or Lewis should be starting CMs, if we're being honest.
 totally agree, I just think Lewis offers more and we have one other option in Pennington, who I think should be starting ahead of Rufer, until Jan when the Mexican arrives.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 4 years ago
Monto
theprof
FFS - is this gonna be the story of our season, playing teams into form?
so much space given to their wide men, Reno putting no effort in to hep his defender out, just poor.
 Renos been poor in general honestly. Not really sure what's going wrong with him.
 It's not hard to figure out - when Davila was playing, it gave Piscopo space. He doesn't have that anymore. He's not good enough to bring a whole team with him like Davila is.

a.haak

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over 4 years ago
yeah, he's been given the responsibility to be the "Davilla" player, maybe he's too green to be that right now? He has the ability but maybe not the confidence to do the job right now?

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 4 years ago
valeo
theprof
I've said it before, but I'll say it again, Im really not happy with Rufer being one of our starting CM's, he is so slow on the ball, takes so long to look for a pass, which inevitably results in him passing back to the defence. If he was just half a second quicker with his decision making he'd see Ball and Hooper in better positions to receive the ball.
Neither Rufer or Lewis should be starting CMs, if we're being honest.
 Especially Rufer. I'd like to see Pennington given a chance to see what's he's got.
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over 4 years ago
theprof
yeah, he's been given the responsibility to be the "Davilla" player, maybe he's too green to be that right now? He has the ability but maybe not the confidence to do the job right now?
 He has the confidence but not the consistent ability imo

a.haak

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over 4 years ago
that's probably fair.
We are just standing around watching the jets right now!!!

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 4 years ago
theprof
yeah, he's been given the responsibility to be the "Davilla" player, maybe he's too green to be that right now? He has the ability but maybe not the confidence to do the job right now?
Other way around, his confidence seems higher than his ability.
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over 4 years ago · edited over 4 years ago · History
theprof
that's probably fair.
We are just standing around watching the jets right now!!!
This is what I thought would happen this season. It's easy for all of this to go stale without an injection of real quality, which we do not have yet and won't have until January.

We simply lost too many good players. Hooper seems like a guy about 2 months away from retirement.

a.haak

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over 4 years ago
Hope we see some Pennington, Waine  - and I can't believe I'm saying it - Sotirio in the second half. We are lacking skill, but also energy.
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over 4 years ago
Feel like this game could use a bit if Waine. Inject a bit of dynamic pace up front.
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over 4 years ago
finally a yellow card - been a fair few agricultural tackles from both sides that have been let go.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 4 years ago
We need to get Sutton in for McGarry asap. His season has mirrored the last, started well going forward but found out in defence repeatedly.

a.haak

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over 4 years ago
We don't like scoring in the first half do we?
Bang average in all departments and all positions. As mentioned above, the squad is lacking quality and it shows.
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over 4 years ago
Rufer still hasn't learned how to do short passes

a.haak

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over 4 years ago
That was awful from Rufer. Terrible pass meaning Lewis had to foul the man to stop the Jets attack and cop a yellow for it.
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over 4 years ago · edited over 4 years ago · History
well that was a pretty average half of footy from us, we let them run all over us, nothing really moving forward (Lewis and Rufer have to take the flak for that). McGarry being worked really hard but not helped by the lack of any defensive work by Piscopo. The lads need a rocket!
I'd get Piscopo off, maybe bring Sotirio on for him, or Waine and move ball to the wing. Would be good to see Sutton on at some point too.
I reckon we'll see Pennington on for Rufer pretty quickly.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 4 years ago
We should be down more.
Can see us conceeding a couple more and scoring none next half.
Jest playing all the football, looking really scary too
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over 4 years ago · edited over 4 years ago · History
I would take Old off, bring Ball back, push Sotirio up with Hooper, Pennington on for Rufer and Sutton on for McGarry

Ball is never that good as one of the front 2 imo. He's better at being a link player. I also think pretty much all of Newcastle's attacks have looked threatening because McGarry is having a tea and a nap.

a.haak

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over 4 years ago
We are deservedly losing, but it’s hard watching us play against 12 players again. Would love to see a replay of the elbow to balls face, wonder why it wasn’t reviewed by VAR
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over 4 years ago
Puh, totally outplayed. Poor passing. Let‘s see if the break bring some change for us, otherwise this will end bad.
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over 4 years ago
siac
theprof
yeah, he's been given the responsibility to be the "Davilla" player, maybe he's too green to be that right now? He has the ability but maybe not the confidence to do the job right now?
Other way around, his confidence seems higher than his ability.

Honestly think he’s good enough but trying to hard at the moment and can’t find his rhythm 


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over 4 years ago
34% possession, yikes.

a.haak

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over 4 years ago
Don't know why McGarry is getting grief for the goal, he didn't allow his man to escape and get a shot off under no pressure.

Could he have stopped the cross, probably not, he's having to play tighter with Piscopo awol on D.

No control of the ball. Neither Lewis or Rufer doing anything of note.
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over 4 years ago
theprof
valeo
theprof
I've said it before, but I'll say it again, Im really not happy with Rufer being one of our starting CM's, he is so slow on the ball, takes so long to look for a pass, which inevitably results in him passing back to the defence. If he was just half a second quicker with his decision making he'd see Ball and Hooper in better positions to receive the ball.
Neither Rufer or Lewis should be starting CMs, if we're being honest.
 totally agree, I just think Lewis offers more and we have one other option in Pennington, who I think should be starting ahead of Rufer, until Jan when the Mexican arrives.
Sandoval is a winger not a 6.
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over 4 years ago · edited over 4 years ago · History
Interesting that Uffie stated pre-match that these were going to be our tactics. He knows a bit more than me about tactics but clearly the plan isn't working so far. 

We look sluggish, sitting too deep and keep giving away possession. 
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over 4 years ago

Piscopo is just not a team player. When does he ever look to play someone in? Get him off. Sotirio gives more options, pull Ball back.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 4 years ago
maynardf
We are deservedly losing, but it’s hard watching us play against 12 players again. Would love to see a replay of the elbow to balls face, wonder why it wasn’t reviewed by VAR
 
Can’t review yellows. 


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over 4 years ago
Oi Oi Edgecumbe

Piscopo is just not a team player. When does he ever look to play someone in? Get him off. Sotirio gives more options, pull Ball back.


Trying to take responsibility. Hooper was yelling at Lewis to shoot, not loft it to the back stick. It’s an instruction?


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