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WPM R4 vs Newcastle Jets | Fri 10th December | 9:45pm | SS7

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over 4 years ago · edited over 4 years ago · History
Jeez, I can't believe the stuff I am reading here. Suddenly everyone is piling on our guys saying how useless they are.  In reality, the Jets are playing a surprisingly good game, and that is all. They are full of energy, are individually much faster players than us, they have reasonable skills, and some of them (Penha, and the Georgian guy) have really good skills. Their attack on the right hand side is very effective and they are simply better than us so far.
I was expecting them to slacken off after the first 15-20 minutes, but since they haven't till halftime, I expect the second half to be much of the same.  That's not a reason to start dissing every and each of our players: we simply have not been in the contest yet.
If anything, I think we are missing our creative midfield tonight.  Neither Ball nor Hooper have been able to get decent service yet, and I understand their frustration. There is a disconnect in the middle; while I am no expert and others can comment here, I have a feeling that it is the lack of connection between Lewis and Piscopo; they should be complementing each other but they seem to be competing for the same task in the middle of the field.  It could be something  that Uffie can sort out at half-time.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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over 4 years ago
Friar Tuck
theprof
valeo
theprof
I've said it before, but I'll say it again, Im really not happy with Rufer being one of our starting CM's, he is so slow on the ball, takes so long to look for a pass, which inevitably results in him passing back to the defence. If he was just half a second quicker with his decision making he'd see Ball and Hooper in better positions to receive the ball.
Neither Rufer or Lewis should be starting CMs, if we're being honest.
 totally agree, I just think Lewis offers more and we have one other option in Pennington, who I think should be starting ahead of Rufer, until Jan when the Mexican arrives.
Sandoval is a winger not a 6.

yeah so he can come on in place of Piscopo on the wing, take Rufer off and put Piscopo central as an AM.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 4 years ago
Oi Oi Edgecumbe

Piscopo is just not a team player. When does he ever look to play someone in? Get him off. Sotirio gives more options, pull Ball back.


Yeah, his decision making seems to value trying to up his goal scoring tally over the result, as evidenced by the penalty debacle with Waine 2 weeks ago. Someone in his position should be getting more assists than goals.
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over 4 years ago
Hope they rev it up a bit this half. Sotirio on.
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over 4 years ago
Sotirio on for Old?

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 4 years ago
theprof
Sotirio on for Old?

On for young or old, almost makes no difference.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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over 4 years ago
theprof
Sotirio on for Old?

Was trying to work that out too... commentators are of no use. He's the only guy I can't see, so yes.

As I write that commentator confirms...
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over 4 years ago
MetalLegNZ
Don't know why McGarry is getting grief for the goal, he didn't allow his man to escape and get a shot off under no pressure.

Could he have stopped the cross, probably not, he's having to play tighter with Piscopo awol on D.

No control of the ball. Neither Lewis or Rufer doing anything of note.
 People said the same thing before he got dropped last season. He tucked inside for no apparent reason.

a.haak

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over 4 years ago
Old has potential but his first half performance was poor
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over 4 years ago
whatever
Old has potential but his first half performance was poor
 Just got crowded out of it, no real service

a.haak

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over 4 years ago
I reckon it could have been 1 game too many, he played in the FFA cup game yeah? Maybe tired, or just being marked well.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 4 years ago
Oh for fudges sake!

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 4 years ago · edited over 4 years ago · History
Mainland FC
Jeez, I can't believe the stuff I am reading here. Suddenly everyone is piling on our guys saying how useless they are.  In reality, the Jets are playing a surprisingly good game, and that is all. They are full of energy, are individually much faster players than us, they have reasonable skills, and some of them (Penha, and the Georgian guy) have really good skills. Their attack on the right hand side is very effective and they are simply better than us so far.
I was expecting them to slacken off after the first 15-20 minutes, but since they haven't till halftime, I expect the second half to be much of the same.  That's not a reason to start dissing every and each of our players: we simply have not been in the contest yet.
If anything, I think we are missing our creative midfield tonight.  Neither Ball nor Hooper have been able to get decent service yet, and I understand their frustration. There is a disconnect in the middle; while I am no expert and others can comment here, I have a feeling that it is the lack of connection between Lewis and Piscopo; they should be complementing each other but they seem to be competing for the same task in the middle of the field.  It could be something  that Uffie can sort out at half-time.
30% possession, barely had a sniff, barely strung 2-3 passes together. I feel like it's fine to say this is a bad one so far.

And it gets worse. 2-0 Jets. 

a.haak

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over 4 years ago
Fudge
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over 4 years ago
How are we making Yule look so good, sure he's quick and has a couple of good touches but he's nothing special!

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 4 years ago
Came apart like a wet paper bag.
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over 4 years ago
theprof
How are we making Yule look so good, sure he's quick and has a couple of good touches but he's nothing special!
None of these Jets guys are special tbh.

a.haak

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over 4 years ago
theprof
How are we making Yule look so good, sure he's quick and has a couple of good touches but he's nothing special!
When he gets to run at kids, then yes that does make him look good
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over 4 years ago
This is the first time I have stopped watching a game with any more than a couple of minutes to go in years. I just cant do, maybe earlier in the evening. I'm not sacrificing tomorrow for this 'display' 
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over 4 years ago
Uffie not happy at the refs! have to say he probably has a fair reason to be unhappy, the ref has let everything go.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 4 years ago
Hooper's first touch has been disastrous 

a.haak

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over 4 years ago
It's as if one of those Royz posts came to life.
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over 4 years ago
Not a great night to be a Phoenix fan, can we sub on Alyssa Whinham?
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over 4 years ago
Rock Hopper
It's as if one of those Royz posts came to life.

I can only imagine him smiling like the cheshire cat right now.
God I hate that man!

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 4 years ago
Phoenix wont win a game until Royz in back, serve ya self right.
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over 4 years ago
Have to admit we should have played our reserves at they know how to win.
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over 4 years ago
Poco
Phoenix wont win a game until Royz in back, serve ya self right.

funny not funny Royz.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 4 years ago
we have been poor across the park so far. No bright spark as of yet.
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over 4 years ago
theprof
Rock Hopper
It's as if one of those Royz posts came to life.

I can only imagine him smiling like the cheshire cat right now.
God I hate that man!
 I mean they haven't got twelve goals on us yet and Tim Payne is yet to pull down his shorts and do a literal poo on the field but it's all on the cards at this rate.
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over 4 years ago
God that's dreadful defending....
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over 4 years ago
Callan getting destroyed this half

a.haak

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over 4 years ago
Rufer is not dynamic at all. Always passing back. We miss Devlin.


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theprof
Rock Hopper
It's as if one of those Royz posts came to life.

I can only imagine him smiling like the cheshire cat right now.
God I hate that man!
Has anyone actually meet Royz in real life? 

I'm still oscillating between him being a Troll or someone who means well but is Autistic/Mentally Ill.

And if he's a Troll I'm not sure if he's a good natured one trying to make people laugh, or an actual dickhead. I'll say one thing though, if he's a Troll he's certainly playing the long game.

Yes, we are at the point where analyzing Royz state of mind is more entertaining than the live match.



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over 4 years ago
I don't think we're giving this Newcastle side enough credit, they look like the second coming of Roarcelona. We should be down by more
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over 4 years ago
Piscopo threw in the towel about 15 min ago, I get the feeling he's done at the Nix

a.haak

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over 4 years ago
As a central midfielder, Rufer is walking 95% of the time, as a captain, he always point and ask the team to make backward passes...(because he's not running into positions to receive the ball)
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over 4 years ago
Uffie's got to make his other changes early, cant be waiting till the 75th/80th minute hoping for a hail mary.

Waine for Pisco as I type this.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 4 years ago
Well here's the thing, The Jets are not the side they were from last season and everyone on he should know that or get there head of there a$$.
Jets are playing well with great passing why'll we are just playing catchup.
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over 4 years ago
valeo
whatever
Old has potential but his first half performance was poor
 Just got crowded out of it, no real service

Played a full game midweek 


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