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Yellow Fury vs NQ Fury (Match Fred)

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Royal wrote:

It just stupid that people makes huge assumptions and thinks that the coaching staff are totally inept.

Also, do people have problems with Chinese players on the whole in this country or what? Or is it because of Leilei G** behaviour with the club. Previously we were all happy for Leilei G** to join after what he did for the NZKnights but things just didn't work out for him and us.

Heck get over it.
Hope that ain't aimed at me. I didn't say anything about Chen or Chinese players. I said management have seen him play so I presume he's up to it


It wasn't aimed at you, it was basically the general absurd observation of what some of the people has said in the forum since Chen was under our radar. Chen is a youth player as much as Roja and Costas with plenty of potential and already people have decided his fate without seeing him. That is plain wrong.
 
not sure what you are on about here. I am shocked by the amount of people (almost everyone) who are saying let's play Chen. Contrary to your argument -he is 23yrs of age (hardly youth), is on loan, and plays a position we are flush with.

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Feverish, people just  hoping someone/anyone will be that that missing link to turn our team from try hards to winners.
 
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Feverish wrote:
Royal wrote:

It just stupid that people makes huge assumptions and thinks that the coaching staff are totally inept.

Also, do people have problems with Chinese players on the whole in this country or what? Or is it because of Leilei G** behaviour with the club. Previously we were all happy for Leilei G** to join after what he did for the NZKnights but things just didn't work out for him and us.

Heck get over it.
Hope that ain't aimed at me. I didn't say anything about Chen or Chinese players. I said management have seen him play so I presume he's up to it


It wasn't aimed at you, it was basically the general absurd observation of what some of the people has said in the forum since Chen was under our radar. Chen is a youth player as much as Roja and Costas with plenty of potential and already people have decided his fate without seeing him. That is plain wrong.
 
not sure what you are on about here. I am shocked by the amount of people (almost everyone) who are saying let's play Chen. Contrary to your argument -he is 23yrs of age (hardly youth), is on loan, and plays a position we are flush with.

Exactly right, Feverish.

And AllWhitebelievr, the people you are calling "stupid" HAVE actually seen him in action, even if it was just training; however it's more than the vast majority of us have seen.

As cultured as Che Bunce's left foot and as profilic as John Lammers

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our referee is Peter Green
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Heard Tony P on Radio Sport this morning saying hes expecting a crowd of 8 or 9 thousand.  Would be good to get over 10k.
 
Have put some $ down on the Nix for a win.  A Draw WILL NOT do.
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I feel bad that I can't make it. 1st game of the season I can't watch. Really hope we dominate so that sitting through a replay will be enjoyable.

Would love to see Caceres come on for 20 and really outclass the Fury. I still wouldn't jump him straight to a starter next week, But if he does hit form, what will our ideal midfield be?
         Lia/ Brown/ McKain
Bertos        Caceres               Daniel
??
I know McKain isn't availiable, but when he is then it will throw up heaps of selection choices. Looking forward to it.
then if you played Jon att CB, then one of Muscat/ sigmund / Durante will miss out.


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Great news.
You know we belong together...

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Brilliant, he's their key play maker.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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yeah really good for us. Wonder if that means Agius will be in the mix??


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I heard Agius was injured too
 
btw I doubt Chen will be very good but he is just there for cover behind Greenacre and Ifill.

a.haak

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robbwatson wrote:
Ufuk Talay ruled out for NQ

Sauce - http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2009/09/19/80421_sport.html



New YF Banner for tomorrow:

              Waddaya mean...Ufuk Talay????
             
              We didn't touch him!





  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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we've scored 33 goals so far at the RoF...i'd love to see the 34th, 35th, 36th etc tomorrow afternoon
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Feverish wrote:
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not sure what you are on about here. I am shocked by the amount of people (almost everyone) who are saying let's play Chen. Contrary to your argument -he is 23yrs of age (hardly youth), is on loan, and plays a position we are flush with.


Really?? I thought he was a striker, where we've been light for at least a season. If he's yet another creative/attacking midfelder, then fair call.

Responding to Barnes10. Yes, I remember my first root, but I don't have a picture of her above the bed where I f***  make love to my wife.

I agree with the sentiment expressed by auskiwi and others that any bum on a seat at the ROF is a good one, and if Robbie Fowler brings them in, then great.

However, I would rather they had a pleasant experience, enjoyed themselves, saw a Phoenix win, and wanted to come back, rather than be put off by the abuse they might cop from an inebriated/die-hard Phoenix fan in the FZ. Admittedly this could happen anywhere in the ROF, but it's most likely in the Zone.

Therefore, Hard News' advice to for Liverpool kit wearing fans to sit elsewhere is sensible. Obviously, you'd hope a 10 year-old kid wouldn't get slagged for such a transgression, but with alcohol and passion involved, who knows. Hopefully common sense prevails on the day.



wolfman2009-09-19 21:18:02


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                                    Phoenix   7-2   Fury
Greenacre x3, Ifill x2, Daniel x2              Griffiths, Fowler
You know we belong together...

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anyone else see three news tonight.  They were interviewing Infil re fowler.  He said, when I'm 34, slow and fat, and banging in goals like Fowler is then I'd be happy.

I heart Ifill
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   Ifill, our go-to man for quotes
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http://www.3news.co.nz/Video/3Sport/tabid/317/articleID/121838/cat/70/Default.aspx

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wolfman wrote:
Feverish wrote:
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not sure what you are on about here. I am shocked by the amount of people (almost everyone) who are saying let's play Chen. Contrary to your argument -he is 23yrs of age (hardly youth), is on loan, and plays a position we are flush with.


Really?? I thought he was a striker, where we've been light for at least a season. If he's yet another creative/attacking midfelder, then fair call.



 
 
well as far as I know he is a stiker- and Ifill and Greenacre seem to be doing well imo. You might think otherwise?

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Feverish wrote:
wolfman wrote:
Feverish wrote:
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not sure what you are on about here. I am shocked by the amount of people (almost everyone) who are saying let's play Chen. Contrary to your argument -he is 23yrs of age (hardly youth), is on loan, and plays a position we are flush with.


Really?? I thought he was a striker, where we've been light for at least a season. If he's yet another creative/attacking midfelder, then fair call.



 
 
well as far as I know he is a stiker- and Ifill and Greenacre seem to be doing well imo. You might think otherwise?
Not at all - I  simply don't feel we've got a lot of cover. I'm not crying out for him to start, but it would be nice if he had some time off the bench, so if Greenacre or Ifill gets injured, he's not coming in cold.


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so you rate him then? Feverish2009-09-19 21:59:59

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I was at the rugby tonight and spoke to a few out-of-towners who said they were going to the football tomorrow so expect crowd numbers to be up as there were quite a few people who had travelled to Wellington to watch the game. My guess, 10-11K.
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No idea what he's like, but if we've gone to the trouble of getting him on loan, it must have been with a view to playing him.
 
It's not as though we're developing local talent by having him in the squad.
 
Edit - (Chen discussiion with Feverish)
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I agree that he should be given a shot on the bench. And agree with the idea that we wouldn't want him coming in cold. I don't think anyone bar the coaches can really rate him him anyway. 


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And if not him, put Costa on the bench, one of the two need gametime under their belt if Greenacre or Ifill get borked,.
You know we belong together...

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slapping a wager down tomoz on this. Its a banker. Nix by 2

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Gotta win this one (stating the bleeding obvious).

Lots of noise tomorrow, show those red shirts worshippers and curious AB supporters what a real crowd can do.

"Phoenix till they lose"

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sawu wrote:

Feverish wrote:
Royal wrote:
It just stupid that people makes huge assumptions and thinks that the coaching staff are totally inept. Also, do people have problems with Chinese players on the whole in this country or what? Or is it because of Leilei G** behaviour with the club. Previously we were all happy for Leilei G** to join after what he did for the NZKnights but things just didn't work out for him and us. Heck get over it.
Hope that ain't aimed at me. I didn't say anything about Chen or Chinese players. I said management have seen him play so I presume he's up to it
It wasn't aimed at you, it was basically the general absurd observation of what some of the people has said in the forum since Chen was under our radar. Chen is a youth player as much as Roja and Costas with plenty of potential and already people have decided his fate without seeing him. That is plain wrong.

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not sure what you are on about here. I am shocked by the amount of people (almost everyone) who are saying let's play Chen. Contrary to your argument -he is 23yrs of age (hardly youth), is on loan, and plays a position we are flush with.
Exactly right, Feverish.And AllWhitebelievr, the people you are calling "stupid" HAVE actually seen him in action, even if it was just training; however it's more than the vast majority of us have seen.


1. I have not called anyone "stupid". But people do make "stupid" assumptions just like you had assumed that I called someone "stupid". Note the difference.
2. I am not vaildating Chen's inclusion or exclusion in the team's line-up.
3. The decision for him to play is up to the coaches.
4. People here are screaming for him to be included based on his pre-season game performance and one outing is hardly much base to suggest otherwise.
5. People here are screaming for him to be excluded based on one training session after the longest plane travel he had and a few training sessions are hardly much base to suggest otherwise.
6. Ok I maybe wrong about a club "youth" (U21) but mainly referring that he was a recent "youth" U23 Olympic international. He has to have reasonable potential at youth/olympic age.
7. People saying that he is another G** is a "stupid" assumption and he hasn't kicked a A-League football yet. Why do people make such assumptions? Even Ifill took sometime to adjust to the condition and he is experienced at a high level and classy, some people even dared to mocked his first game. How is everyone going to react to Chen when he gets on the field on his club debut?
8. I understood that Chen was a striker and since he is likely to be behind Greenache, Ifill, and likely completing with Costa (and maybe with Hearfield although Hearfield is more AM). He is either 3rd or 4th striker and taken Drapers place by loan. You need at least 4 strikers in a squad (so I am not sure where Feverish have the idea that we are flushing in that position.)
9. If you read in other threads, you understand what I mean about the "Chinese Connection" with people comparing him to to G**. He is not G**.
10. Again, get over it.
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I think this will be one of those recurring themes until the lad actually plays and then we will get to dissect every minutiae of his game.

Lots of energy spent on various speculations. Agree with your #10 at the end.

I'm sort of feeling a bit flat compared with the first two games (maybe because of the rugby being in town as well, maybe hayfever, maybe climate change) but will be psyching myself up tomorrow morning for a good rant and rave sesh at RoF

Come on Nix!

(la la la
lalala
lalala
Phoenix)
Junior822009-09-20 01:16:27

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Yays ! Only 6 more hours. Have been hanging out for this game, missed the Adelaide game so pumped up for a massive Nix win. Phoenix 4-0.
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You need at least 4 strikers in a squad (so I am not sure where Feverish have the idea that we are flushing in that position.)
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not sure what you mean. He is in the squad. We do have at least four stikers. My reference was to fit stikers of more quality than Chen, thus saying starting him is not gonna happen at this point in time
Feverish2009-09-20 10:04:23

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What a perfect day to attend a game. No exuses about the weather, be there!
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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We need a second team, then we'll have a crowd of 15,000 Costa, Marco and Chen followers watching them play every week with Mulligan and Crowther
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I was at the rugby tonight and spoke to a few out-of-towners who said they were going to the football tomorrow so expect crowd numbers to be up as there were quite a few people who had travelled to Wellington to watch the game. My guess, 10-11K.

You must have spoken to a sh*tload of people
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I think it would be great to deny Fowler any goals tonight, but don't know about that. 3-1 to the nix.
Ifill, Lia, and Caceres!!


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A win by any margin and in any style PLEASE!

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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sawu wrote:

Feverish wrote:
Royal wrote:
It just stupid that people makes huge assumptions and thinks that the coaching staff are totally inept. Also, do people have problems with Chinese players on the whole in this country or what? Or is it because of Leilei G** behaviour with the club. Previously we were all happy for Leilei G** to join after what he did for the NZKnights but things just didn't work out for him and us. Heck get over it.
Hope that ain't aimed at me. I didn't say anything about Chen or Chinese players. I said management have seen him play so I presume he's up to it
It wasn't aimed at you, it was basically the general absurd observation of what some of the people has said in the forum since Chen was under our radar. Chen is a youth player as much as Roja and Costas with plenty of potential and already people have decided his fate without seeing him. That is plain wrong.

 

not sure what you are on about here. I am shocked by the amount of people (almost everyone) who are saying let's play Chen. Contrary to your argument -he is 23yrs of age (hardly youth), is on loan, and plays a position we are flush with.
Exactly right, Feverish.And AllWhitebelievr, the people you are calling "stupid" HAVE actually seen him in action, even if it was just training; however it's more than the vast majority of us have seen.


1. I have not called anyone "stupid". But people do make "stupid" assumptions just like you had assumed that I called someone "stupid". Note the difference.
2. I am not vaildating Chen's inclusion or exclusion in the team's line-up.
3. The decision for him to play is up to the coaches.
4. People here are screaming for him to be included based on his pre-season game performance and one outing is hardly much base to suggest otherwise.
5. People here are screaming for him to be excluded based on one training session after the longest plane travel he had and a few training sessions are hardly much base to suggest otherwise.
6. Ok I maybe wrong about a club "youth" (U21) but mainly referring that he was a recent "youth" U23 Olympic international. He has to have reasonable potential at youth/olympic age.
7. People saying that he is another G** is a "stupid" assumption and he hasn't kicked a A-League football yet. Why do people make such assumptions? Even Ifill took sometime to adjust to the condition and he is experienced at a high level and classy, some people even dared to mocked his first game. How is everyone going to react to Chen when he gets on the field on his club debut?
8. I understood that Chen was a striker and since he is likely to be behind Greenache, Ifill, and likely completing with Costa (and maybe with Hearfield although Hearfield is more AM). He is either 3rd or 4th striker and taken Drapers place by loan. You need at least 4 strikers in a squad (so I am not sure where Feverish have the idea that we are flushing in that position.)
9. If you read in other threads, you understand what I mean about the "Chinese Connection" with people comparing him to to G**. He is not G**.
10. Again, get over it.
 
Storm in a tea cup, AWB. Looking back at the three posts initial about Chen here only one person mentioned he was Chinese, or that they had reservations about his ability. How you can infer that a couple of idle remarks about a botched pre-game shot on goal amount to people screaming to have him excluded is beyond me.
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Anyone Know if Ticketek by the Michale Fowler Center will be open today. Want to make sure my mates get ticket in the fevr Zone. 

All Aboard the Phoenix/ All Whites Bandwagon!!

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Go the Phoenix Store 2 Hunter Street and get your tickets there.
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Cheers Tony

All Aboard the Phoenix/ All Whites Bandwagon!!

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