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2011 Friendlies Discussion

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
AJ13 wrote:
you being simon angus makes you a fuckwit.
 
cool argument. 
 
 
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Are the U17s still there?
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It's a game of football, and Japan is in the middle of a massive disaster
Right decision, no argument from me
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AJ13 wrote:
Are the U17s still there?

No they didnt get there, stayed in HK and now going elsewhere

Again the right decision
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AJ13 wrote:

Doloras wrote:
Ridiculous and short-sighted call. We are unlikely to get a friendly against such top-quality opposition again any time soon.

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f**kwit.
Why? It would be like cancelling a game in Wellington because of the Chch quake, and its not like Japan didnt want to play. I think youre the fuckwit


Can you please enlighten me how the two disasters are comparable?

And less of the name-calling, or the banstick Jedi will make an appearance - this goes for BobBoltonTawa too.el grapadura2011-03-17 22:40:36
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hepatitis wrote:
It's a game of football, and Japan is in the middle of a massive disaster
Right decision, no argument from me


I agree. I've actually felt quite embarrassed lately seeing pictures of japanese pensioner survivors stoicaly going about surviving in the rubble and snow while kiwi's are all angsty about how our own quake ruined our stupid rugby world cup

Japan has enough problems to deal with and i'm sure all the people starving and freezing won't appreciate their powers who betaking time & effort to re-organise a sports game
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Very poor form by NZF. There is little to no danger in Osaka, if the JFA wanted to play it the right thing to do would have been to give the Japanese footballing public some joy by playing.
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I think it is the right decision.  Would be good to play in Japan if the only concern was around earthquake risk.
 
But seeing as there are 4 nuclear reactors being naughty and explodey how can you guarantee the safety of the players?  Is Osaka far enough away to be considered safe?
 
I'd imagine if I was in Korea or coastal NE China I'd be a watching those wind patterns with some degree of angst.
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

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SC03 wrote:
Very poor form by NZF. There is little to no danger in Osaka, if the JFA wanted to play it the right thing to do would have been to give the Japanese footballing public some joy by playing.


mate...
japan has over 5000 dead, over 10000 missing, hundreds of thousands displaced with quite a large percentage permanently unhomed, close to a million homes without power in major winter conditions; and millions of people plus a huge part of their land mass at risk of radiation pisioning if Fukushima gets worse...
I think the Japanese footballing public have bigger things on their mind. Plus it makes their govt look even more lackadaisical in their relief efforts to even be thinking about worrying about rescheduling a 'game'
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The only downside to your argument stealthkiwi is that it wouldn't have been the govt's job to reschedule the game, it would have fallen on the JFA. Otherwise I can't argue. JFA had already cancelled the game scheduled with Montenegro so it does say something that they wanted to play NZ still.

I hope NZF can keep up dialogue with the JFA and reshedule this match for later on, even at a neutral venue. I think it would be important for the interest of public morale.
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stealthkiwi wrote:
SC03 wrote:
Very poor form by NZF. There is little to no danger in Osaka, if the JFA wanted to play it the right thing to do would have been to give the Japanese footballing public some joy by playing.


mate...
japan has over 5000 dead, over 10000 missing, hundreds of thousands displaced with quite a large percentage permanently unhomed, close to a million homes without power in major winter conditions; and millions of people plus a huge part of their land mass at risk of radiation pisioning if Fukushima gets worse...
I think the Japanese footballing public have bigger things on their mind. Plus it makes their govt look even more lackadaisical in their relief efforts to even be thinking about worrying about rescheduling a 'game'


Mate, I have been following the news.
The JFA should be making the call, not NZF.
The game was going to be a charity event, i.e. doing something to help the people you are talking about...
Besides the JFA had already moved it to Osaka, where there is very little risk. The team could have flown directly in and out of Osaka.
Going ahead would have been a sign of support for Japan, if that support is not wanted that should have been JFA's call.
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
So this is officially off? What was this talk of Osaka?

I think if the Japanese want to play it, the least we can do is go and give them something to think about apart from devastation and to have their national heroes in the arena as a focal point for some national grief and healing.

Plus they can play awesome footy- if they want to play us we shouldn't say no.

My opinion.


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Well said SC03


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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
You's are just f**kwits bro!!

Fuck this stupid game

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
JFA moved the venue from Tokyo to Osaka as it's further from Fukushima and radiation levels I'm guessing haven't gone up from safe.
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It looks like the JFA have been quick to make other arrangements.

http://www.jfa.or.jp/eng/topics/2011/96.html

The stadium isn't far away from where I live actually. I think its a fantastic way for the people of Osaka to support the rest of Japan. A lot of my friends have said they will go along, they invited me to go too.

But I think its better if I stay inside at home where I'm safe.  I'm sure NZFootball supports my decision. Hope my friends  have a good time though.
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SC03 wrote:

Mate, I have been following the news.The JFA should be making the call, not NZF. The game was going to be a charity event, i.e. doing something to help the people you are talking about...Besides the JFA had already moved it to Osaka, where there is very little risk. The team could have flown directly in and out of Osaka.Going ahead would have been a sign of support for Japan, if that support is not wanted that should have been JFA's call.


I'm sure you would be following the events VERY closely given your location.

Agree with you re showing support, but when you consider that travel warnings are in place by most countries and there is a lot of uncertainty over the status of the reactors, would you as a player be willing to make the trip, and would you as NZF be prepared ask the players to take the risk?

NZF have said it would like to reschedule the match and make it a charity event for both countries. That seems a good compromise to me.


"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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el grapadura wrote:
Can you please enlighten me how the two disasters are comparable?

And less of the name-calling, or the banstick Jedi will make an appearance - this goes for BobBoltonTawa too.

Theyre both largely isolated only to their originating regions of their respective countries. Actually it would be more like from Chch to Wellington and back again almost, thats how far Osaka is from Tokyo.

And anyone know why NZF turned down the offer to play South Korea instead?
AJ132011-03-18 22:23:15
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AJ13 wrote:

And anyone know why NZF turned down the offer to play South Korea instead?


Where did you hear this?

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Probably because half the first choice squad is unavailable and getting slapped by Korea wouldn't help the game.

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Hard News wrote:
Probably because half the first choice squad is unavailable and getting slapped by Korea wouldn't help the game.


To be honest, we were gonna get slapped by Japan anyway. Just saying...

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah I wouldve thought Japan would at very least be on par with SK, if not quite a bit better...
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
AJ13 wrote:
Yeah I wouldve thought Japan would at very least be on par with SK, if not quite a bit better...


Japan did win the Asian Cup and everything...

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Thats what i meant by 'a bit better'
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah, China was always going to be the game that we had a chance of winning out of the two. I know we are Undefeated and everything, but look what happened when we played Paraguay at home...

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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Junior82 wrote:
SC03 wrote:

Mate, I have been following the news.The JFA should be making the call, not NZF. The game was going to be a charity event, i.e. doing something to help the people you are talking about...Besides the JFA had already moved it to Osaka, where there is very little risk. The team could have flown directly in and out of Osaka.Going ahead would have been a sign of support for Japan, if that support is not wanted that should have been JFA's call.


I'm sure you would be following the events VERY closely given your location.

Agree with you re showing support, but when you consider that travel warnings are in place by most countries and there is a lot of uncertainty over the status of the reactors, would you as a player be willing to make the trip, and would you as NZF be prepared ask the players to take the risk?

NZF have said it would like to reschedule the match and make it a charity event for both countries. That seems a good compromise to me.




^^ well said J82. I sure as heck wouldn't be going there. I fear the situation in Japan is worse than they are reporting.
I'm sure pulling out of the game was the last thing NZF wanted to do, but like people say there are more important things going on over there than a game of football.

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The main reason im a little slutted is that one of the two (most likely japan) wouldve seen more of a full strength AWs side, it wouldve been good to see what we could put up against Japan, and still be able to see some of the new guys against China.
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I must admit I was looking more forward to the Japan game than the China one. Oh well gotta move on....
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
On the bright side NZF say they are going to keep up communication with JFA to reschedule the match and do it as a proper charity even by the sounds of it.
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Make it happen!

Getting matches where we can be competitive with Japan or ROK can only help our football development...These guys with Aussie are the football powerhouses of Asia...

Thoughts with the people of Japan and Christchurch...


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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Soccer: All Whites need matches

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10713676

good article from Michael Brown.

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
How do we know that SK offered a game?  Surely this would have been mooted before the Japan match was officially culled and could have easily been scheduled in (the only major AW losses for me would have been Reid and Elliott for a Japan/SK game).
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George Kostanza wrote:
Junior82 wrote:
SC03 wrote:

Mate, I have been following the news.The JFA should be making the call, not NZF. The game was going to be a charity event, i.e. doing something to help the people you are talking about...Besides the JFA had already moved it to Osaka, where there is very little risk. The team could have flown directly in and out of Osaka.Going ahead would have been a sign of support for Japan, if that support is not wanted that should have been JFA's call.


I'm sure you would be following the events VERY closely given your location.

Agree with you re showing support, but when you consider that travel warnings are in place by most countries and there is a lot of uncertainty over the status of the reactors, would you as a player be willing to make the trip, and would you as NZF be prepared ask the players to take the risk?

NZF have said it would like to reschedule the match and make it a charity event for both countries. That seems a good compromise to me.




^^ well said J82. I sure as heck wouldn't be going there. I fear the situation in Japan is worse than they are reporting.
I'm sure pulling out of the game was the last thing NZF wanted to do, but like people say there are more important things going on over there than a game of football.



Speak for yourself, I am looking into a skiing trip to Sapporo, that area is unaffected (as is Osaka) prices will be cheaper than usual, I am sure they will appreciate my tourist $ and a friendly face. If I get exposed to minute levels of radiation then to make up for it next time I will decline the x-ray at the dentist.

Of course there are more important things than football, but football is a way to show support, reconstruction must now begin and life goes on.

In times of crisis you need to stick by your mates.
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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Perhaps not such a bad thing. Gives the opportunity to look at Boxall, Fitzgerald and Barbarouses.
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
NExt international window isn't until 4 to 8 June (2 friendlies).  Australia is heavily rumoured to be playing Chile at home on the 4th.  You'd like to think we are trying to get a game with them too.
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
or the Japan fixture and another Asian team.

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
chile + japan would make for 2 great games

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
chile + japan would make for 2 great games


Dont make marco think he can play for chile to spite us!
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
We should play Brazil as part of their World Tour
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