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Tegal wrote:
Not like those Hibs supporters...ffs
 
And some of you guys say I'm like a dog with a bone...jeez.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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Stevo wrote:
 
"No team [the Bahraini national football team] has ever dominated a sporting contest like they did today - and not won".
 
Murray Deaker. New Zealand most successful sports broadcaster.
 
Oh god, did he actually say that?

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Stevo wrote:
timmymadden wrote:
Personally I thought we were better than 'lucky to draw' a few highlights don't really tell the whole story, yes Bahrain missed some very good opportunities but it wasn't as one sided as TV1 made out. Does anyone have TVNZ7? Does the coverage differ?
 
"No team [the Bahraini national football team] has ever dominated a sporting contest like they did today - and not won".
 
Murray Deaker. New Zealand most successful sports broadcaster.
 
Deary me - I think I've seen 100's of games where teams have dominated more than Bahrain did and not won!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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Tegal wrote:
But who am i to question Deakers vast knowledge of Bahraini sports sides.
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Stevo wrote:
timmymadden wrote:
Personally I thought we were better than 'lucky to draw' a few highlights don't really tell the whole story, yes Bahrain missed some very good opportunities but it wasn't as one sided as TV1 made out. Does anyone have TVNZ7? Does the coverage differ?
 
"No team [the Bahraini national football team] has ever dominated a sporting contest like they did today - and not won".
 
Murray Deaker. New Zealand most successful sports broadcaster.
 
i usually try not to swear on here but it's either that or make inappropriate comments on the issue of mental health
 
so, what a f**king idiot Deaker is
 
pretty much every 2nd week in the EPL there will be a much more one sided drawn match than that
 
again, what a f**king idiot Deaker is
 
 
 
 
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Deaker - Never has a sports reporter ever sounded so stupid and and ignorant. You are terrible.
Fruglo on 15.01.2013 wrote:

Fuck this stupid game

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To be fair - wasn't a bad hour (12-1pm) of radio.  He sounded happy enough for the AWs.
 
But why does he ALWAYS have to say "I'm not really a soccer fan" whenever he talks football?
 
We already know Deaker.
Stevo2009-10-11 21:06:13
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on topic guys if possible
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In fairness ML this should probably become the general Media Watch thread

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Yeah, I think it just highlights NZ media's lack of interest/knowledge in football
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We shouldnt generalise though. Fairfax (Dom, Stuff, Press) did a great job, Herald did ok, Radio Sport, Prime also good. Those guys appreciated it was a big deal and gave the match a really whirl all week. It was TV3 and TV1 that completely and utterly fell over.
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Yeah and thats been recognised in this thread also i believe. Therefore renaming it to a media watch thread would make sense since we're also adding deaker to the mix.
 
its the good the bad and the ugly

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we will (no doubt) start to see the main Tv and radio networks pushing to be the ONE that is the football expert and get the news on the Wellington leg.

 If (when) we qualify the media will be trampling over each other to be the voice of the team / fans, it will all be "The countdown to the cup".  If (perish the thought) we fail to win at home, football will agian be dropped like a hot potato
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tigers wrote:

 
so, what a f**king idiot Deaker is
 
pretty much every 2nd week in the EPL there will be a much more one sided drawn match than that
 
again, what a f**king idiot Deaker is
 


Nearly every Stoke home game last season, defend defend defend
GenericFan2009-10-11 21:09:31
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Marius Lacatus wrote:
Some of you guys are far too generous man. The WOrld CUp is the biggest event on earth. THat was the country's biggest game of football in 27 years, football is still the biggest participation sport in this country, Nelsen is still the 2nd highest paid sportsmen from this country (probably), yet nothing all week on the game, nothing the night before, then second story behing 11th in the ironmnan (which happens every year) and twenty miserly seonds on the game itself.
 
Even if TVNZ dedicated the entire sports news to the game it would not be enough now.
We are conditioned to appalling football coverage in this country. We should have more realistic expecations.


I thought Ryan was the highest? and by some way?


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Steve-O wrote:
Stevo wrote:
timmymadden wrote:
Personally I thought we were better than 'lucky to draw' a few highlights don't really tell the whole story, yes Bahrain missed some very good opportunities but it wasn't as one sided as TV1 made out. Does anyone have TVNZ7? Does the coverage differ?
 
"No team [the Bahraini national football team] has ever dominated a sporting contest like they did today - and not won".
 
Murray Deaker. New Zealand most successful sports broadcaster.
 
Deary me - I think I've seen 100's of games where teams have dominated more than Bahrain did and not won!


The last 'Nix game is one example that springs to mind!


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tigers wrote:
Marius Lacatus wrote:

No matter what coverage they have tonight, their failure to preview the game is totally inexcusable and unredeemable. It is an absolute disgrace.

Now, of course, the TV networks will be the people thinking they should be first in line for every interview in the build up to the Wellington game. Well, I hope they get told to shove it.
 
If they don't reply to my email, in a way that shows an ounce of integrity, I'll do my first ever BSA complaint (isn't that what they suggest to you earlier ML??)
 
 
though I'll need to check out the permissable grounds first -  a state funded broadcaster failing to provide coverage of a socially significant event in a democracy might be my tack
 
either that or a hard copy letter to the Minister of Broadcasting
 
 


The BSA cannot rule on editorial decisions especially on something that hasn't screened. It has to go to air to be subject to the BSA and then only if it breaches fairness, balance and decency guidelines. Nothing aired so the BSA cannot rule. The info from TV3 reception was incorrect.
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We need to follow Australia Government approach to free to air TV for sports.

I really miss the old TV1 sports on the Saturday afternoon and Sunday Grandstand.

So who in the government will take up the banner??
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Itd ruin sky. Then the government would have to pay up for all sporting events,and we'd end up with nothing much.

Allegedly

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Tegal wrote:
Itd ruin sky. Then the government would have to pay up for all sporting events,and we'd end up with nothing much.


Maybe, I heard years ago the government wanted some leeway for delayed TV screening for nationally important sports that would go live on Sky TV. I know there was an one hour highlight on TV1 at 12 noon to 1 pm, but I wanted full coverage in real time and some analysis from a host to make the public feel welcome to the game. All we get is the cold shoulder and a edited game. Not really the full coverage that was promised for the government's behalf. Or was that only for All Blacks games??

There must be some legislation about coverage of important international games such as the AWs playoff game. I can't remember but did we have a host for the Italy friendly before the Confederation Cup??AllWhitebelievr2009-10-11 23:50:18
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Ok yeah thatd be a fair comprimise. Maybe the government needs to work more closely for things like that,playing certain sports on free to air,live or delayed. The government should work together with sky for things like this. But i suspect sky wont be interested. Dont know the logistics of it being forced onto them

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HeySeus wrote:

tigers wrote:
Marius Lacatus wrote:

No matter what coverage they have tonight, their failure to preview the game is totally inexcusable and unredeemable. It is an absolute disgrace.


Now, of course, the TV networks will be the people thinking they should be first in line for every interview in the build up to the Wellington game. Well, I hope they get told to shove it.



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The BSA cannot rule on editorial decisions especially on something that hasn't screened. It has to go to air to be subject to the BSA and then only if it breaches fairness, balance and decency guidelines. Nothing aired so the BSA cannot rule. The info from TV3 reception was incorrect.


Well if that is the situation I'd argue there was a lack of balance in their reporting and stories. (Something that has aired so therefore BSA have jurisdiction).
But someway or another the message needs to get through. Also Deaker breach of decency guidelines? Maybe stretching it but why not?
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Sounds unbelievable what they did...

We struggle in Australia as well... a method we found to be effective was for someone to find the email addresses of a number of important people... like CEO / Head of Sport / Sports Minster / Media Minster ... etc ...but a fair few ... Then simple fill their emails boxes everyday until you get a reaction...

This has worked in the recent past in Australia... not sure how far you could spread the emails but if you got 5, 000 people to send 3 emails a day you soon jam up the works.... within a week of this happening this changed... Ch 7 for example moved the Football coverage live to SBS ...

There where a number of people on the list  about 10 and we just kept emailing... Seven even went on  air to explain its position to the football community ... it was all BS from 7 we knew it but the point had been made...

The important thing is each email needs to be a little bit different...but heaps and heaps... government minsters react and so do CEO & General managers when their email box is so full they cannot work .. and that is why each email needs to be a little different ...

Keyboard Warriors ..unite ... post the details on some Aussie Football sites as well ...

Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei

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Spamming is something of a criminal offence....so cant get too carried away with emailing people with sole purpose of filling their inbox

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Tegal wrote:
Spamming is something of a criminal offence....so cant get too carried away with emailing people with sole purpose of filling their inbox


Who�s Spamming � it�s still a free country people are allowed to voice their concerns� unless it�s changed from when I was there. Spamming is one company sending out heaps of emails � This on the other hand is many people sending emails to just a few� noway is people sending emails in this way a criminal offense...it is a simple way of protesting ...

What�s wrong with a simple statement�

I am very upset with the way TV 3 handed the WCQ. How can they give it no coverage at all after all the WC is the biggest single sporting event in the world..

I sent an email to the following people and am sharing with you their email address if you wish to also express your displeasure�

TV 3

CEO  �. Mr � email address �
Sports Editor
Head of News
General Manager

NZ Government

Sports Minster
Media Minster

Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei

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Tony smith for prime minister! Yet another great read in the Dom post today

All Aboard the Phoenix/ All Whites Bandwagon!!

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Email addresses are often easy to guess, if not find.  TV3 is owned by Mediaworks. Mediaworks CEO is Brent Impey, so try brent.impey@tv3.co.nz or brent.impey@mediaworks.co.nz, or just use their general email, replies@tv3.co.nz.
 
For TVNZ, there is a generic news@tvnz.co.nz. Rick Ellis is the CEO, try the same trick with the email address: odds on it is rick.ellis@tvnz.co.nz.
 
The Broadcasting Minister is Johnathon Coleman, his email address is j.coleman@ministers.govt.nz, but you'll do better emailing Brendon Burns since the opposition is more likely to kick up a fuss, Brendon Burns is the Broadcasting spokesperson (brendon.burns@parliament.govt.nz).
 
Sports minister Murry McCully is at m.mccully@ministers.govt.nz and the opposition spokesperson is Chris Hipkins chris.hipkins@parliament.govt.nz
 
My suggested list is:
m.mccully@ministers.govt.nz
 
I'd also suggest emailing them one at a time, and try to personalise it - why you think they should care.  The spam issue is irrelevant here, you're not sending unsolicited emails getting them to click on dodgy links.
 
I think that it was appalling, and might give a few of them a rark up (I watched both channels on Saturday and saw what was covered, the football was mentioned at the end among a list of things the Sports anchor could watch, on tv3 news, and there was nothing at all on TV1). 
 
It's a given that coverage will be much better for the home leg. No reporter there makes them look bad, so they try to pretend that it is not happening (of course after the game there is plenty of footage they can use to cover for the fact they they sent no one.
 
But that is the issue - they didn't send a reporter, and didn't want to cover it because of that.

14/11/09

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Just been reading the press, Fantastic effort. But realistically It deserves the 2 full pages it got.
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Tegal wrote:
Spamming is something of a criminal offence....so cant get too carried away with emailing people with sole purpose of filling their inbox
 
Spamming is not people emailing with complaints.
bling blang blah
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The way midfielder said we should fill their inboxes is  but i think i misread

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The Thinker wrote:
Just been reading the press, Fantastic effort. But realistically It deserves the 2 full pages it got.
 
the press rocks for sport coverage. Gives all sports a fair go I reckon.
bling blang blah
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just saw that tv3 gonna interview herbert after ads......
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OMG something on tv 3.
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Redemption?...nah just playing catchup but at least it was on first.  Ricki was positively sparkling..expecting 40000

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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Westpac doesn't sit 40000, does it have the option of temporary seating? I missed the interview by probably less than 2 minutes
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With extra seating, I think it can get to 38,500
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Tv1 is now also on the Bandwagon.
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Good to see they mentioned it.


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Did either network show any highlights? Not so concerned about TV1 'cause they showed 1hr highlights yesterday at least. Before I went to bed last night I watched Sport365 Headlines on Ch33 and there was NOTHING from the AW's game.
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tv3 had a few clips of the game.
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