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New Zealand Men's U-17s

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over 12 years ago

mexico v nigeria in the final

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over 12 years ago

Nigeria were the best side from the start. I read that some EPL sides are already looking at some of these players.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 12 years ago
Leggy wrote:

Nigeria were the best side from the start. I read that some EPL sides are already looking at some of these players.


They are in their prime tbf.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History

The difference between our lads and then the majority of those in other sides is ours will aspire to play in the a-league one day, and most of them never will. Where as a lot of these other kids would probably only join the a-league as a last resort at the end of their long professional careers. 

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over 12 years ago
Buffon II wrote:
Leggy wrote:

Nigeria were the best side from the start. I read that some EPL sides are already looking at some of these players.


They are in their prime tbf.

I'm not surprised. They made Mexico look like also-rans. You see the Mexican kid defender crying at end of game.

Come on you All Whites!

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
Jerzy Merino wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Leggy wrote:

Nigeria were the best side from the start. I read that some EPL sides are already looking at some of these players.


They are in their prime tbf.

I'm not surprised. They made Mexico look like also-rans. You see the Mexican kid defender crying at end of game.

Come on you All Whites!

He wouldve been gutted. scored the opening goal in a 3-0 defeat ...

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over 12 years ago

23 months until Chile 2015 kicks off.
http://www.ilovechile.cl/2013/09/01/chilean-president-meets-17-world-cup-committee/90880

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago

NEWS FLASH: Next Oceania qualifying for FIFA U-17 World Cup to be an u-16 event.

Decision at OFC Executive meeting last weekend:

http://www.oceaniafootball.com/ofc/News/ViewArticle/tabid/125/Article/62921ee9-defd-41b1-a1d2-eb6df2a59caa/language/en-US/Default.aspx

• Agreed that the OFC qualifying format for future FIFA age group World Cups will be:

o Changed from U-17 and U-20 Championships to U-16 and U-19 Championships to allow successful teams at least one year to prepare for the World Cup.
o The new age-group format to begin for the OFC U-19 Men’s Championship from May 22 to 30, 2014. 

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 12 years ago

Good idea


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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
Big Pete 65 wrote:

NEWS FLASH: Next Oceania qualifying for FIFA U-17 World Cup to be an u-16 event.

Decision at OFC Executive meeting last weekend:

http://www.oceaniafootball.com/ofc/News/ViewArticle/tabid/125/Article/62921ee9-defd-41b1-a1d2-eb6df2a59caa/language/en-US/Default.aspx

• Agreed that the OFC qualifying format for future FIFA age group World Cups will be:

o Changed from U-17 and U-20 Championships to U-16 and U-19 Championships to allow successful teams at least one year to prepare for the World Cup.
o The new age-group format to begin for the OFC U-19 Men’s Championship from May 22 to 30, 2014. 


How is this different to what already exists? Still be kids of the same ages competing against each other; ie 2014 U16 OFC is same age bracket (1998-1999) as 2015 U17 World Cup etc

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago
Buffon II wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

Its not a demeaning comment. Its his opinion and I suspect for a few of them, he would be right.

I doubt that very much. My son is 13 and trains/plays basketball 5 times a week, sometimes 7 [twice on 2 days]. He's not going to any World Cup, he's just a good age group player. I wouldn't be surprised if these kids aren't doing it 7 days a week, every week in some form.


Probably has zero natural ability.

So you want to take the piss out of my kid now? Tough guy
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over 12 years ago
Global Game wrote:
Big Pete 65 wrote:

NEWS FLASH: Next Oceania qualifying for FIFA U-17 World Cup to be an u-16 event.

Decision at OFC Executive meeting last weekend:

http://www.oceaniafootball.com/ofc/News/ViewArticle/tabid/125/Article/62921ee9-defd-41b1-a1d2-eb6df2a59caa/language/en-US/Default.aspx

• Agreed that the OFC qualifying format for future FIFA age group World Cups will be:

o Changed from U-17 and U-20 Championships to U-16 and U-19 Championships to allow successful teams at least one year to prepare for the World Cup.
o The new age-group format to begin for the OFC U-19 Men’s Championship from May 22 to 30, 2014. 


How is this different to what already exists? Still be kids of the same ages competing against each other; ie 2014 U16 OFC is same age bracket (1998-1999) as 2015 U17 World Cup etc
The OFC qualifying tournaments will be a year before the FIFA Finals, not three months as currently. Hence the players selected will be younger and have a year from Oceania qualifying until the FIFA Finals. Much more time together, time to play friendlies and scout new players for the FIFA Finals, enter a team in your national league (as NZF are doing with the Wanderers) etc.
e.g. our u-20's only had three months between playing their qualifying tournie 21-29 March this year and the FIFA Finals in Turkey 21 June- 13 July. And they played no friendlies in that three months until a couple of weeks before the Finals. So, our u-20's were only together for say four weeks in total during qualifying and the Finals (including maybe a week together before each event) which isn't sufficient to really develop players.

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 12 years ago
Buffon II wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

Its not a demeaning comment. Its his opinion and I suspect for a few of them, he would be right.

I doubt that very much. My son is 13 and trains/plays basketball 5 times a week, sometimes 7 [twice on 2 days]. He's not going to any World Cup, he's just a good age group player. I wouldn't be surprised if these kids aren't doing it 7 days a week, every week in some form.


Probably has zero natural ability.

So you want to take the piss out of my kid now? Tough guy
Yeah.Rubbish comment.Pull your head in mate

                                                                        COYN    

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over 12 years ago
hamezilla wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

Its not a demeaning comment. Its his opinion and I suspect for a few of them, he would be right.

I doubt that very much. My son is 13 and trains/plays basketball 5 times a week, sometimes 7 [twice on 2 days]. He's not going to any World Cup, he's just a good age group player. I wouldn't be surprised if these kids aren't doing it 7 days a week, every week in some form.


Probably has zero natural ability.

So you want to take the piss out of my kid now? Tough guy
Yeah.Rubbish comment.Pull your head in mate

+Many! That was a really uncalled for comment. Just nasty...
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over 12 years ago
Optimist wrote:
hamezilla wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

Its not a demeaning comment. Its his opinion and I suspect for a few of them, he would be right.

I doubt that very much. My son is 13 and trains/plays basketball 5 times a week, sometimes 7 [twice on 2 days]. He's not going to any World Cup, he's just a good age group player. I wouldn't be surprised if these kids aren't doing it 7 days a week, every week in some form.


Probably has zero natural ability.

So you want to take the piss out of my kid now? Tough guy
Yeah.Rubbish comment.Pull your head in mate


+Many! That was a really uncalled for comment. Just nasty...

Something about positivity Buffy?

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago
Big Pete 65 wrote:
Global Game wrote:
Big Pete 65 wrote:

NEWS FLASH: Next Oceania qualifying for FIFA U-17 World Cup to be an u-16 event.

Decision at OFC Executive meeting last weekend:

http://www.oceaniafootball.com/ofc/News/ViewArticle/tabid/125/Article/62921ee9-defd-41b1-a1d2-eb6df2a59caa/language/en-US/Default.aspx

• Agreed that the OFC qualifying format for future FIFA age group World Cups will be:

o Changed from U-17 and U-20 Championships to U-16 and U-19 Championships to allow successful teams at least one year to prepare for the World Cup.
o The new age-group format to begin for the OFC U-19 Men’s Championship from May 22 to 30, 2014. 


How is this different to what already exists? Still be kids of the same ages competing against each other; ie 2014 U16 OFC is same age bracket (1998-1999) as 2015 U17 World Cup etc

The OFC qualifying tournaments will be a year before the FIFA Finals, not three months as currently. Hence the players selected will be younger and have a year from Oceania qualifying until the FIFA Finals. Much more time together, time to play friendlies and scout new players for the FIFA Finals, enter a team in your national league (as NZF are doing with the Wanderers) etc.

e.g. our u-20's only had three months between playing their qualifying tournie 21-29 March this year and the FIFA Finals in Turkey 21 June- 13 July. And they played no friendlies in that three months until a couple of weeks before the Finals. So, our u-20's were only together for say four weeks in total during qualifying and the Finals (including maybe a week together before each event) which isn't sufficient to really develop players.

So to use a different U17 team by way of example, the Women's U17 team will play in an OFC Qualifying Tournament a year before the Women's U17 World Cup.  So if the 2016 Women's U17 World Cup in Jordan is played in March/April (like the 2014 is), then the NZ Women's U17 team for that World Cup will be playing in the OFC Qualifying tournament in March/April 2015?  Which presumably means they will be preparing through that summer, e.g. with a team in the ASB Women's Premiership like the current U17 squad have.  And that squad will be picked toward the end of the 2014 winter season.  Which means that a couple of the girls I know that aspire to be in that U17 squad (if successful they'd be at the World Cup in the year they turn 16) will be trying to get picked when they are still 13 years old, turning 14 later that year.  Crikey.
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over 12 years ago

Heard from an excellent source (personally involved with players who were not from Auckland) that the 2013 U17 boys who went to live in Auckland were subjected to an absolute shambles of organisation, communication, and piss-poor all round training/school/life experience. Would have been far better to continue training in their existing environments. 

So if OFC Qualifying is being played one year prior to 2015 U17 World Cup (Chile) the boys national squad will need to be selected pretty quick smart as the OFC Qualifying would be next year, 2014. Anyone reckon NZF is on top of this?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago
Optimist wrote:
hamezilla wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

Its not a demeaning comment. Its his opinion and I suspect for a few of them, he would be right.

I doubt that very much. My son is 13 and trains/plays basketball 5 times a week, sometimes 7 [twice on 2 days]. He's not going to any World Cup, he's just a good age group player. I wouldn't be surprised if these kids aren't doing it 7 days a week, every week in some form.


Probably has zero natural ability.

So you want to take the piss out of my kid now? Tough guy
Yeah.Rubbish comment.Pull your head in mate


+Many! That was a really uncalled for comment. Just nasty...

I agree. What a rediculous thing to say. Watch out though guys, he's a mod. Will probably ban you for speaking out.

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over 12 years ago
Seb wrote:
Optimist wrote:
hamezilla wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

Its not a demeaning comment. Its his opinion and I suspect for a few of them, he would be right.

I doubt that very much. My son is 13 and trains/plays basketball 5 times a week, sometimes 7 [twice on 2 days]. He's not going to any World Cup, he's just a good age group player. I wouldn't be surprised if these kids aren't doing it 7 days a week, every week in some form.


Probably has zero natural ability.

So you want to take the piss out of my kid now? Tough guy
Yeah.Rubbish comment.Pull your head in mate


+Many! That was a really uncalled for comment. Just nasty...

I agree. What a rediculous thing to say. Watch out though guys, he's a mod. Will probably ban you for speaking out.

There are no mods listed in these quotes

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago
Global Game wrote:

Heard from an excellent source (personally involved with players who were not from Auckland) that the 2013 U17 boys who went to live in Auckland were subjected to an absolute shambles of organisation, communication, and piss-poor all round training/school/life experience. Would have been far better to continue training in their existing environments. 

So if OFC Qualifying is being played one year prior to 2015 U17 World Cup (Chile) the boys national squad will need to be selected pretty quick smart as the OFC Qualifying would be next year, 2014. Anyone reckon NZF is on top of this?



Anyway, back to the thread...

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago

Jesus christ we're all a bit sensitive in here arent we...

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over 12 years ago
Buffon II wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

Its not a demeaning comment. Its his opinion and I suspect for a few of them, he would be right.

I doubt that very much. My son is 13 and trains/plays basketball 5 times a week, sometimes 7 [twice on 2 days]. He's not going to any World Cup, he's just a good age group player. I wouldn't be surprised if these kids aren't doing it 7 days a week, every week in some form.


Probably has zero natural ability.


There is natural ability? In humans? Please explain yourself sir.

You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you



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about 12 years ago


So who's coaching Wanderers Yoof this year? A temp?

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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about 12 years ago

Bazely isn't it?

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about 12 years ago

Bazeley has U20 2015? Therefore new coach for U17 2015?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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about 12 years ago

Won't the U17 Wanderes Youth team actually be the balance of the "U20" squad? The lads not playing in the ASBP but still part of the wider training squad playing in the Youth league?

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about 12 years ago

Correct Optimist. Wanderers 2 teams will all be 1997 or older, ie ineligible for 2015 U17 World Cup (98/99). Be interesting to see who puts their hand up for U17 job. Reckon a bit of fresh blood could be on its way in to national youth set up?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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about 12 years ago

Danny Halligan. Putting my flag up early.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 12 years ago

Chris Zoricich.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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about 12 years ago

Paul gothard is taking the boys for the youth league

we only sing when were winning
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about 12 years ago

hasn't Chris picked up the St Kent's job - might not be able to do both?

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about 12 years ago

Michael McGarry?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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about 12 years ago

McGarry or Zoro would as good too. I guess it shows they are not really short on options.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 12 years ago

Chris Greenacre.


Assisted by an injured Paul Ifill.


Dreams are free.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 12 years ago

Wow, there were some very, very young boys playing for Wanderers Youth team yesterday. About 4 or 5 that I could recognise from playing other games for the U20's squad, then a load of really young kids.

ACFC Youth went through them like a dose of salts.

Man Chris Z's teams play attractive football!!

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about 12 years ago · edited about 12 years ago · History
Optimist wrote:

Wow, there were some very, very young boys playing for Wanderers Youth team yesterday. About 4 or 5 that I could recognise from playing other games for the U20's squad, then a load of really young kids.

ACFC Youth went through them like a dose of salts.

Man Chris Z's teams play attractive football!!


Hey Optimist, where are Wanderers Youth drawing players from? Auckland FTC? NTC? WYNRS? Schools?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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about 12 years ago
Global Game wrote:
Optimist wrote:

Wow, there were some very, very young boys playing for Wanderers Youth team yesterday. About 4 or 5 that I could recognise from playing other games for the U20's squad, then a load of really young kids.

ACFC Youth went through them like a dose of salts.

Man Chris Z's teams play attractive football!!


Hey Optimist, where are Wanderers Youth drawing players from? Auckland FTC? NTC? WYNRS? Schools?

The younger lads that i saw 2/3 and recongnised were NFF FTC boys 98's so potential next u17 players.
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about 12 years ago
Global Game wrote:
Optimist wrote:

Wow, there were some very, very young boys playing for Wanderers Youth team yesterday. About 4 or 5 that I could recognise from playing other games for the U20's squad, then a load of really young kids.

ACFC Youth went through them like a dose of salts.

Man Chris Z's teams play attractive football!!


Hey Optimist, where are Wanderers Youth drawing players from? Auckland FTC? NTC? WYNRS? Schools?


The younger lads that i saw 2/3 and recongnised were NFF FTC boys 98's so potential next u17 players.


Right, NFF FTC team at nationals looked to be a good team. Mainland won the tournament so expect a few of them will be there too. Mainland excluded any 98s from trialling for Canterbury Youth.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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about 12 years ago

you would hope the coach would be in place soon with qualifiers coming up in a few months time.

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