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The next All Whites coach

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21 Nov 19:54

Ivan or Elliot, give me strength... I don't care if you a Lionel Messi but you should at least have some runs on the board as a coach (aside from coaching 6 year olds for Triillion  trust cash) before being given  the Premier Job in NZ Football. 


Good players do not necessarily make good coaches

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21 Nov 20:09

for me the catalunyan guy is the best candidate, to build around , affordable, and with a decent pedigree and in your patio, Brian Kerr and Aurelio Vidmar are ones that are tried and tested,  working with underages and can build for the future with a proven record.  The coach needs to be a full time coach, Graham Arnold is a good coach as well, and did well vs Argentina at the Olympics,

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22 Nov 00:10

So had anyone got anything good or bad to say about Sean Douglas? 

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22 Nov 01:40

Regardless of who the next coach is NZ football have to utilise the former players who are in coaching positions (Elliot , Nelsen , Rufer with his academy) and have them scouting out NZ talent in areas where they coach so that we can put together a good group of players plying their trade at a good level to groom for upcoming WC.Its also crucial that we try and organise an international programme I know that we may not be able to get games against opposition in every window but even training camps would help the team gel together.

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22 Nov 02:54

I saw Bob Douglas a couple of months back and he intimated that he was very happy in Melbourne making a living he could not make here in NZ off football. I think his wife is from there as well. I think he is now the FFAs technical director in Victoria.

He would be an interesting name in the mix too. Good idea.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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22 Nov 03:53
martinb wrote:

deep lying DM yeh? and CB for Knights and Waitak?

played upfront as the target quite a bit for the knights.

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22 Nov 05:16
Jeff Vader wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
martinb wrote:

First up, I don't think we're likely to get a coach who'll make as an immediate an impact as Ricki. On the flip side, I don't think he has to. The talent is there, so it doesn't need something dramatic from the coach, but someone who can manage and facilitate talent, and has a reasonable tactical awareness. Ok, so that is likely to be a big ask. But the bigger ask will be a platform of games for the AWs as they had with Graham Seatter that saw Ricki take the squad to Europe and other places. Administration backed with some finance will be the call that can make the most difference. Maybe we could look to try and play games against club teams associated with our top players?

Anyway I'm half tempted to say Danny Hay, just so he can take a turn in the hot seat. All in all though, too many cb coaches...Ricki, Danny hay, Neil Emblen etc etc...

I think you are right on a fair chunk of this. Emblen was a midfielder for most of his career though.

And not a very good one.
yeah. Bloody average footballer who played EPL..... 

He was an attacking midfielder



Being sarcastic does not suit you JV.
I made the comment on all the times I've seen Emblen play. If we are being truthful most people in NZ had never heard of him until he arrived to play for the Knights.He was 34 years old then and had been playing for Walsall which at the time was less than average. I watched the first game in Brisbane and he was miles away from the standard. required . I saw every game that he played and he had one great game. Sure he played  in the EPL but I never remembered him. Perhaps because he only played 8 games and for a side that got relegated.
It was as a coach that I was impressed. I saw the Olympic side play in the UK last year (on TV)  and I thought they played some lovely football. On that basis I believe that he could do a pretty good job for the AW given the young talent we have.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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22 Nov 05:33

Most of the All Whites in the next WC cycle will be playing in far more professional environments than exist in NZ. Without spending Monopoly money the coach has to have coached at least at a certain level to have credibility, from which to then earn respect. Can't see how any coach currently in NZ (that I know if) has that level of coaching experience.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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22 Nov 07:06
Leggy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
martinb wrote:

First up, I don't think we're likely to get a coach who'll make as an immediate an impact as Ricki. On the flip side, I don't think he has to. The talent is there, so it doesn't need something dramatic from the coach, but someone who can manage and facilitate talent, and has a reasonable tactical awareness. Ok, so that is likely to be a big ask. But the bigger ask will be a platform of games for the AWs as they had with Graham Seatter that saw Ricki take the squad to Europe and other places. Administration backed with some finance will be the call that can make the most difference. Maybe we could look to try and play games against club teams associated with our top players?

Anyway I'm half tempted to say Danny Hay, just so he can take a turn in the hot seat. All in all though, too many cb coaches...Ricki, Danny hay, Neil Emblen etc etc...

I think you are right on a fair chunk of this. Emblen was a midfielder for most of his career though.

And not a very good one.
yeah. Bloody average footballer who played EPL..... 

He was an attacking midfielder



Being sarcastic does not suit you JV.
I made the comment on all the times I've seen Emblen play. If we are being truthful most people in NZ had never heard of him until he arrived to play for the Knights.He was 34 years old then and had been playing for Walsall which at the time was less than average. I watched the first game in Brisbane and he was miles away from the standard. required . I saw every game that he played and he had one great game. Sure he played  in the EPL but I never remembered him. Perhaps because he only played 8 games and for a side that got relegated.
It was as a coach that I was impressed. I saw the Olympic side play in the UK last year (on TV)  and I thought they played some lovely football. On that basis I believe that he could do a pretty good job for the AW given the young talent we have.
I was at that game too Leggy, lived in Brisbane at the time. Decided to become a roar fan but at the game couldn't bring myself to cheer against NZ. So made Brisbane my Aussie team :) Still have the Roar cap we bought at the game.
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22 Nov 09:49
Napier Phoenix wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
martinb wrote:

First up, I don't think we're likely to get a coach who'll make as an immediate an impact as Ricki. On the flip side, I don't think he has to. The talent is there, so it doesn't need something dramatic from the coach, but someone who can manage and facilitate talent, and has a reasonable tactical awareness. Ok, so that is likely to be a big ask. But the bigger ask will be a platform of games for the AWs as they had with Graham Seatter that saw Ricki take the squad to Europe and other places. Administration backed with some finance will be the call that can make the most difference. Maybe we could look to try and play games against club teams associated with our top players?

Anyway I'm half tempted to say Danny Hay, just so he can take a turn in the hot seat. All in all though, too many cb coaches...Ricki, Danny hay, Neil Emblen etc etc...

I think you are right on a fair chunk of this. Emblen was a midfielder for most of his career though.

And not a very good one.
yeah. Bloody average footballer who played EPL..... 

He was an attacking midfielder



Being sarcastic does not suit you JV.
I made the comment on all the times I've seen Emblen play. If we are being truthful most people in NZ had never heard of him until he arrived to play for the Knights.He was 34 years old then and had been playing for Walsall which at the time was less than average. I watched the first game in Brisbane and he was miles away from the standard. required . I saw every game that he played and he had one great game. Sure he played  in the EPL but I never remembered him. Perhaps because he only played 8 games and for a side that got relegated.
It was as a coach that I was impressed. I saw the Olympic side play in the UK last year (on TV)  and I thought they played some lovely football. On that basis I believe that he could do a pretty good job for the AW given the young talent we have.
I was at that game too Leggy, lived in Brisbane at the time. Decided to become a roar fan but at the game couldn't bring myself to cheer against NZ. So made Brisbane my Aussie team :) Still have the Roar cap we bought at the game.


The same NP. Apart from the Nix will support the Roar for the same reasons.
Obviously JV is not going to reply, especially as he could be wrong.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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22 Nov 17:52
Leggy wrote:
Napier Phoenix wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
martinb wrote:

First up, I don't think we're likely to get a coach who'll make as an immediate an impact as Ricki. On the flip side, I don't think he has to. The talent is there, so it doesn't need something dramatic from the coach, but someone who can manage and facilitate talent, and has a reasonable tactical awareness. Ok, so that is likely to be a big ask. But the bigger ask will be a platform of games for the AWs as they had with Graham Seatter that saw Ricki take the squad to Europe and other places. Administration backed with some finance will be the call that can make the most difference. Maybe we could look to try and play games against club teams associated with our top players?

Anyway I'm half tempted to say Danny Hay, just so he can take a turn in the hot seat. All in all though, too many cb coaches...Ricki, Danny hay, Neil Emblen etc etc...

I think you are right on a fair chunk of this. Emblen was a midfielder for most of his career though.

And not a very good one.
yeah. Bloody average footballer who played EPL..... 

He was an attacking midfielder



Being sarcastic does not suit you JV.
I made the comment on all the times I've seen Emblen play. If we are being truthful most people in NZ had never heard of him until he arrived to play for the Knights.He was 34 years old then and had been playing for Walsall which at the time was less than average. I watched the first game in Brisbane and he was miles away from the standard. required . I saw every game that he played and he had one great game. Sure he played  in the EPL but I never remembered him. Perhaps because he only played 8 games and for a side that got relegated.
It was as a coach that I was impressed. I saw the Olympic side play in the UK last year (on TV)  and I thought they played some lovely football. On that basis I believe that he could do a pretty good job for the AW given the young talent we have.
I was at that game too Leggy, lived in Brisbane at the time. Decided to become a roar fan but at the game couldn't bring myself to cheer against NZ. So made Brisbane my Aussie team :) Still have the Roar cap we bought at the game.


The same NP. Apart from the Nix will support the Roar for the same reasons.
Obviously JV is not going to reply, especially as he could be wrong.
No I am commenting because I think your argument is wrong.
I've hardly seen Wynton Rufer play but the times I did (for the Kingz) I didn't think much. Does that mean he was an average footballer? Just cause he was not the best player in the EPL or you saw him at a time towards the end of his career where he was out of shape and not great, does not make him an average footballer. Ifill was average footballer last year. Does that mean he has always been that way?

Grumpy old bastard alert

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22 Nov 18:50

I remember seeing ADP play for Sydney. He wasn't that good. Average footballer. 


Allegedly

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22 Nov 19:09
Tegal wrote:

I remember seeing ADP play for Sydney. He wasn't that good. Average footballer. 

Pants footballer. Never did much

Grumpy old bastard alert

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22 Nov 19:13 · edited 22 Nov 19:14 · History
Jeff Vader wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Napier Phoenix wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
martinb wrote:

First up, I don't think we're likely to get a coach who'll make as an immediate an impact as Ricki. On the flip side, I don't think he has to. The talent is there, so it doesn't need something dramatic from the coach, but someone who can manage and facilitate talent, and has a reasonable tactical awareness. Ok, so that is likely to be a big ask. But the bigger ask will be a platform of games for the AWs as they had with Graham Seatter that saw Ricki take the squad to Europe and other places. Administration backed with some finance will be the call that can make the most difference. Maybe we could look to try and play games against club teams associated with our top players?

Anyway I'm half tempted to say Danny Hay, just so he can take a turn in the hot seat. All in all though, too many cb coaches...Ricki, Danny hay, Neil Emblen etc etc...

I think you are right on a fair chunk of this. Emblen was a midfielder for most of his career though.

And not a very good one.
yeah. Bloody average footballer who played EPL..... 

He was an attacking midfielder



Being sarcastic does not suit you JV.
I made the comment on all the times I've seen Emblen play. If we are being truthful most people in NZ had never heard of him until he arrived to play for the Knights.He was 34 years old then and had been playing for Walsall which at the time was less than average. I watched the first game in Brisbane and he was miles away from the standard. required . I saw every game that he played and he had one great game. Sure he played  in the EPL but I never remembered him. Perhaps because he only played 8 games and for a side that got relegated.
It was as a coach that I was impressed. I saw the Olympic side play in the UK last year (on TV)  and I thought they played some lovely football. On that basis I believe that he could do a pretty good job for the AW given the young talent we have.
I was at that game too Leggy, lived in Brisbane at the time. Decided to become a roar fan but at the game couldn't bring myself to cheer against NZ. So made Brisbane my Aussie team :) Still have the Roar cap we bought at the game.


The same NP. Apart from the Nix will support the Roar for the same reasons.
Obviously JV is not going to reply, especially as he could be wrong.
No I am commenting because I think your argument is wrong.

I've hardly seen Wynton Rufer play but the times I did (for the Kingz) I didn't think much. Does that mean he was an average footballer? Just cause he was not the best player in the EPL or you saw him at a time towards the end of his career where he was out of shape and not great, does not make him an average footballer. Ifill was average footballer last year. Does that mean he has always been that way?



You do have to admit Vader, that e,blem was shocking as a player at the knights? Does not mean he can't coach of course


Auckland will rise once more

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22 Nov 21:34
Jeff Vader wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Napier Phoenix wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
martinb wrote:

First up, I don't think we're likely to get a coach who'll make as an immediate an impact as Ricki. On the flip side, I don't think he has to. The talent is there, so it doesn't need something dramatic from the coach, but someone who can manage and facilitate talent, and has a reasonable tactical awareness. Ok, so that is likely to be a big ask. But the bigger ask will be a platform of games for the AWs as they had with Graham Seatter that saw Ricki take the squad to Europe and other places. Administration backed with some finance will be the call that can make the most difference. Maybe we could look to try and play games against club teams associated with our top players?

Anyway I'm half tempted to say Danny Hay, just so he can take a turn in the hot seat. All in all though, too many cb coaches...Ricki, Danny hay, Neil Emblen etc etc...

I think you are right on a fair chunk of this. Emblen was a midfielder for most of his career though.

And not a very good one.
yeah. Bloody average footballer who played EPL..... 

He was an attacking midfielder



Being sarcastic does not suit you JV.
I made the comment on all the times I've seen Emblen play. If we are being truthful most people in NZ had never heard of him until he arrived to play for the Knights.He was 34 years old then and had been playing for Walsall which at the time was less than average. I watched the first game in Brisbane and he was miles away from the standard. required . I saw every game that he played and he had one great game. Sure he played  in the EPL but I never remembered him. Perhaps because he only played 8 games and for a side that got relegated.
It was as a coach that I was impressed. I saw the Olympic side play in the UK last year (on TV)  and I thought they played some lovely football. On that basis I believe that he could do a pretty good job for the AW given the young talent we have.
I was at that game too Leggy, lived in Brisbane at the time. Decided to become a roar fan but at the game couldn't bring myself to cheer against NZ. So made Brisbane my Aussie team :) Still have the Roar cap we bought at the game.


The same NP. Apart from the Nix will support the Roar for the same reasons.
Obviously JV is not going to reply, especially as he could be wrong.
No I am commenting because I think your argument is wrong.

I've hardly seen Wynton Rufer play but the times I did (for the Kingz) I didn't think much. Does that mean he was an average footballer? Just cause he was not the best player in the EPL or you saw him at a time towards the end of his career where he was out of shape and not great, does not make him an average footballer. Ifill was average footballer last year. Does that mean he has always been that way?


I see you point but I don't think for one moment that he was a great player- ever. For the Knights he was awful.
I have this feeling that he might be a better coach.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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22 Nov 21:53
Leggy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Napier Phoenix wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
martinb wrote:

First up, I don't think we're likely to get a coach who'll make as an immediate an impact as Ricki. On the flip side, I don't think he has to. The talent is there, so it doesn't need something dramatic from the coach, but someone who can manage and facilitate talent, and has a reasonable tactical awareness. Ok, so that is likely to be a big ask. But the bigger ask will be a platform of games for the AWs as they had with Graham Seatter that saw Ricki take the squad to Europe and other places. Administration backed with some finance will be the call that can make the most difference. Maybe we could look to try and play games against club teams associated with our top players?

Anyway I'm half tempted to say Danny Hay, just so he can take a turn in the hot seat. All in all though, too many cb coaches...Ricki, Danny hay, Neil Emblen etc etc...

I think you are right on a fair chunk of this. Emblen was a midfielder for most of his career though.

And not a very good one.
yeah. Bloody average footballer who played EPL..... 

He was an attacking midfielder



Being sarcastic does not suit you JV.
I made the comment on all the times I've seen Emblen play. If we are being truthful most people in NZ had never heard of him until he arrived to play for the Knights.He was 34 years old then and had been playing for Walsall which at the time was less than average. I watched the first game in Brisbane and he was miles away from the standard. required . I saw every game that he played and he had one great game. Sure he played  in the EPL but I never remembered him. Perhaps because he only played 8 games and for a side that got relegated.
It was as a coach that I was impressed. I saw the Olympic side play in the UK last year (on TV)  and I thought they played some lovely football. On that basis I believe that he could do a pretty good job for the AW given the young talent we have.
I was at that game too Leggy, lived in Brisbane at the time. Decided to become a roar fan but at the game couldn't bring myself to cheer against NZ. So made Brisbane my Aussie team :) Still have the Roar cap we bought at the game.


The same NP. Apart from the Nix will support the Roar for the same reasons.
Obviously JV is not going to reply, especially as he could be wrong.
No I am commenting because I think your argument is wrong.

I've hardly seen Wynton Rufer play but the times I did (for the Kingz) I didn't think much. Does that mean he was an average footballer? Just cause he was not the best player in the EPL or you saw him at a time towards the end of his career where he was out of shape and not great, does not make him an average footballer. Ifill was average footballer last year. Does that mean he has always been that way?


I see you point but I don't think for one moment that he was a great player- ever. For the Knights he was awful.
I have this feeling that he might be a better coach.
I agree Auckland Phoenix he was rubbish for the Knights. It was a retirement gig for him and he is in better shape now, than when he turned up.
Leggy I'm not saying he is a great player by any stretch but you have to give him respect for the fact he played at that level. When you think of our best Kiwi footballers, only two have done on with regular appearances because it's not an easy level to live in unless you have talent. I'll grant you that Nelsen and Reid were/are 2 good EPL players but to live at that level, average is a bad adjective especially when you look at all the competition you have to get ahead of to get there

Grumpy old bastard alert

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22 Nov 21:56

Something needs to be done about quoting on app - so unreadable


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22 Nov 22:38
Hard News wrote:
MrWaikato wrote:
What about Roger Wilkinson? Kevin Fallon?


Comedy gold.


Just thought I'd lighten the mood :) or stir the pot whichever haha
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22 Nov 22:40
Jeff Vader wrote:
MrWaikato wrote:

I understand Tony Readings is currently undertaking his Pro Licence with the likes of Tony Popovic, Frank Farina, Phil Moss, John Kosmina and former Waikato FC Coach Dave Edmondson in Australia at the moment, so could be a long shot for the National Team position - does he have any experience in the men's game apart from a brief spell with Birkenhead a few years ago..?


What about Roger Wilkinson? Kevin Fallon?

Dave Edmondson is another name who might back himself but he left to make a name for himself in Australia with women's football and had a booze issue with his 1st stint at Waikato so not sure where he would sit. Some one mentioned in another thread Aurelio Vidmar?


As for the last two, you are surely having a wind up right? With Danny Hay and Billy Harris as assistants?


Edmondson now at Melbourne victory with the women but apparently mentioned around the Melbourne Heart a league job if/when Aloisi goes?
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22 Nov 22:52

The more I think about it the more I think it should be Elliot. This is a low risk two year cycle

Normo's coming home

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22 Nov 23:18
Jeff Vader wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Napier Phoenix wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
martinb wrote:

First up, I don't think we're likely to get a coach who'll make as an immediate an impact as Ricki. On the flip side, I don't think he has to. The talent is there, so it doesn't need something dramatic from the coach, but someone who can manage and facilitate talent, and has a reasonable tactical awareness. Ok, so that is likely to be a big ask. But the bigger ask will be a platform of games for the AWs as they had with Graham Seatter that saw Ricki take the squad to Europe and other places. Administration backed with some finance will be the call that can make the most difference. Maybe we could look to try and play games against club teams associated with our top players?

Anyway I'm half tempted to say Danny Hay, just so he can take a turn in the hot seat. All in all though, too many cb coaches...Ricki, Danny hay, Neil Emblen etc etc...

I think you are right on a fair chunk of this. Emblen was a midfielder for most of his career though.

And not a very good one.
yeah. Bloody average footballer who played EPL..... 

He was an attacking midfielder



Being sarcastic does not suit you JV.
I made the comment on all the times I've seen Emblen play. If we are being truthful most people in NZ had never heard of him until he arrived to play for the Knights.He was 34 years old then and had been playing for Walsall which at the time was less than average. I watched the first game in Brisbane and he was miles away from the standard. required . I saw every game that he played and he had one great game. Sure he played  in the EPL but I never remembered him. Perhaps because he only played 8 games and for a side that got relegated.
It was as a coach that I was impressed. I saw the Olympic side play in the UK last year (on TV)  and I thought they played some lovely football. On that basis I believe that he could do a pretty good job for the AW given the young talent we have.
I was at that game too Leggy, lived in Brisbane at the time. Decided to become a roar fan but at the game couldn't bring myself to cheer against NZ. So made Brisbane my Aussie team :) Still have the Roar cap we bought at the game.


The same NP. Apart from the Nix will support the Roar for the same reasons.
Obviously JV is not going to reply, especially as he could be wrong.
No I am commenting because I think your argument is wrong.

I've hardly seen Wynton Rufer play but the times I did (for the Kingz) I didn't think much. Does that mean he was an average footballer? Just cause he was not the best player in the EPL or you saw him at a time towards the end of his career where he was out of shape and not great, does not make him an average footballer. Ifill was average footballer last year. Does that mean he has always been that way?

I saw George Best once, playing for Fulham. He was the slowest player on the pitch. But he was quite a player in his day, I believe. However I don't believe he would have made a good coach - unless there are courses in speed-dating, then he'd be coach No 1.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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23 Nov 02:31

So one of the gems from Gareth Morgan's recent interview was that he thought it should be Ernie Merrick, doing a similar job-share arrangement as Ricki had.

Hasn't discussed it with the rest of Welnix yet though.


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23 Nov 04:37
MrWaikato wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
MrWaikato wrote:

I understand Tony Readings is currently undertaking his Pro Licence with the likes of Tony Popovic, Frank Farina, Phil Moss, John Kosmina and former Waikato FC Coach Dave Edmondson in Australia at the moment, so could be a long shot for the National Team position - does he have any experience in the men's game apart from a brief spell with Birkenhead a few years ago..?


What about Roger Wilkinson? Kevin Fallon?

Dave Edmondson is another name who might back himself but he left to make a name for himself in Australia with women's football and had a booze issue with his 1st stint at Waikato so not sure where he would sit. Some one mentioned in another thread Aurelio Vidmar?


As for the last two, you are surely having a wind up right? With Danny Hay and Billy Harris as assistants?


Edmondson now at Melbourne victory with the women but apparently mentioned around the Melbourne Heart a league job if/when Aloisi goes?

Wow that's huge!

Grumpy old bastard alert

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23 Nov 06:05
terminator_x wrote:

So one of the gems from Gareth Morgan's recent interview was that he thought it should be Ernie Merrick, doing a similar job-share arrangement as Ricki had.

Hasn't discussed it with the rest of Welnix yet though.



I only heard about one minute of the interview on radiosport, but all I heard was 5 million dollars was to be gifted by Gareth to NZ football if they did something. What was the something? All I could think afterwards was it was a bribe if Frank and Fred stood down?

Auckland will rise once more

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24 Nov 09:12

Former Northern Ireland manager Lawrie Sanchez might be a good shout? Did brilliant things for 'Norn Iron' helping the Irish to shock wins against England, Spain and Sweden and almost qualifying for Euro2008. He left to manage Fulham before the qualifying campaign was finished and replaced by Nigel Worthington.

Sanchez applied for the Wales job in 2012 before Chris Coleman was appointed and seems better suited to international coaching rather than club management. Helped Northern Ireland rise something like 50 places in the FIFA World Rankings too.

He won the FA Cup as a player with Wimbledon in 1988 before managing tiny Wycombe Wanderers to the quarter finals of the FA Cup ten years ago. Famous for signing striker Roy Essandoh after a desperate plea for a striker on teletext lol.

Now does tv work for Sky in the UK. Won't demand a massive salary and in my opinion could be a good option!

Thoughts?



English based All Whites fan! Would love to watch an All White game one day.  

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24 Nov 09:17

Should have googled him first lol. Appointed as Apollon manager in Greece two days ago! There goes that 

English based All Whites fan! Would love to watch an All White game one day.  

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25 Nov 07:47

If Oceania winner were to get a spot in last 12 of Asian World Cup qualifying, it's a much more attractive proposition. Until then any appointment is "interim" IMO.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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25 Nov 08:04

It's going to be such a part time role over the next couple of years, what's the prospect of merging the AWs coaching role with 20s role? Would that work? Get somebody in now to begin monitoring talent here and around the globe, building towards the u20 World Cup and then Russia.

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25 Nov 08:22
Marius Lacatus wrote:

It's going to be such a part time role over the next couple of years, what's the prospect of merging the AWs coaching role with 20s role? Would that work? Get somebody in now to begin monitoring talent here and around the globe, building towards the u20 World Cup and then Russia.

the 20s here in 2015? Darren Bazely already has that gig

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25 Nov 08:35

Reckon it will be Emblem....logical succession. Daft Vader said Emlem does not have the tickets but I could not find any FIFA regs saying you have to have an A-Badge or anything to coach a international side.


I would like Ramon Tribulitex to be Emblems assistant if Emblem got the job. Emblem could oversee the team and Ramon would work on coaching the possession based style that would suit our younger players

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25 Nov 08:42

Think it is better working the other way.

U17s coach is an assistant for U20s
U20s coach is an assistant for U23s
U23s coach is an assistant for All Whites.

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25 Nov 08:55

Agree. Gives continuity and familiarity. Only downside is the coach that goes up with those players (assuming he stays more than one cycle) may be closed off to new players and influence the other coach around selection because of history.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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26 Nov 07:53

Emblen would be a step back for NZ Football. I would like to know what successes he had with U23 and what do you believe he would bring to our game?

Are we going to do the same thing like with Darren Bazley? He went to U17 World Cup got beaten in all three games (goal difference?) without scoring a single goal and got promoted to U20 coach? He is a nice block but this is just bizarre...

With all overseas players that Ramon brought to ACFC, he managed to win only O league. It is completely different to be the coach of the best funded club in ASB league, where other clubs have very limited funds and/or pool of players, to lead NZ selection against much stronger teams (with an exception, but no disrespect of Oceania countries). 

We need to invest in very good overseas coach. How we would know? This needs to be determined by the style of football that we want All Whites to play and the coaches currently available with that particular style.  We have a bunch of talented young players who need to be led by well known, respected coach with a clear vision of All Whites future.

In my view, the best model would be German style of football which would suit us well.

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26 Nov 18:36
UK_ALLWHITE wrote:

Former Northern Ireland manager Lawrie Sanchez might be a good shout? Did brilliant things for 'Norn Iron' helping the Irish to shock wins against England, Spain and Sweden and almost qualifying for Euro2008. He left to manage Fulham before the qualifying campaign was finished and replaced by Nigel Worthington.

Sanchez applied for the Wales job in 2012 before Chris Coleman was appointed and seems better suited to international coaching rather than club management. Helped Northern Ireland rise something like 50 places in the FIFA World Rankings too.

He won the FA Cup as a player with Wimbledon in 1988 before managing tiny Wycombe Wanderers to the quarter finals of the FA Cup ten years ago. Famous for signing striker Roy Essandoh after a desperate plea for a striker on teletext lol.

Now does tv work for Sky in the UK. Won't demand a massive salary and in my opinion could be a good option!

Thoughts?





I think that would be a great idea, but as you say will he be up for it?
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26 Nov 18:39
Feverish wrote:

Perhaps we should appoint Emblen as caretaker and wait until Nelsen gets sacked from Toronto like all the coaches before him 



For Nelsen to be All Whites manager I would say that it would be a good/peoples choice but Toronto would have to give him the sack or he will leave.
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27 Nov 03:54


gareth should just pay 5 mil of his money for a good coach for the next 5 years

I LOVE LAMP

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27 Nov 05:44

LOL idiots!

No one will know the draws/path to Russia until 2016. So if you get a local drip for a coach until the draw? Or you hire Elliot (lol) or another drip after the draw and expect them to get the All Whites past the 5th best CONMEBOL side.

Asia this, Asia that, LMAO - Its FIFA people! Get real. 

Mr Positive

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27 Nov 07:25
Royz wrote:

LOL idiots!

No one will know the draws/path to Russia until 2016. So if you get a local drip for a coach until the draw? Or you hire Elliot (lol) or another drip after the draw and expect them to get the All Whites past the 5th best CONMEBOL side.

Asia this, Asia that, LMAO - Its FIFA people! Get real. 

Could you say that again in English? 

Allegedly

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27 Nov 07:50

I can't believe people keep bringing up Nelsen. As much as I love the guy (In my opinion the best player to have ever played for New Zealand), I highly doubt he will coach the All Whites anytime soon. The salary for coaching the AW's is peanuts compared to what he has earned throughout his playing career and it would also be nothing compared to what he is on at Toronto. His wife is also American I think and this is one of the reasons he went back to North America.

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