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yea ill take back a fair bit of stick ive given fallon, hes come on and look settled and solid. well done that man!
Honestly think, based on that display, that we have the makings of a decent team going forward from now. Need some work on our transition speed and our buildup in attack but I think the signs are promising
4-5-1 shape with 2 CDM
Honestly think, based on that display, that we have the makings of a decent team going forward from now. Need some work on our transition speed and our buildup in attack but I think the signs are promising
4-5-1 shape with 2 CDM
2-4 not a bad result. Plenty of young talent for the future, considering Reid comes back into the squad. Fantastic crowd in Wellington. 2015 U20 World Cup in NZ. Future looks good. Good-bye Ricki ...All the best
Roux was great on the right and left - fast and skillful. Glad he picked NZ to play for.
So, who will have the worst World Cup play-off results - us or Jordan?
Jordan lost 5-0 at home to Uruguay last week - they play again tomorrow NZT away in Montevideo....
Will be interesting - it may become a blow-out as several Jordanian players have quit the team and refused to travel
There's always some one worse off than you......
why are we trying to play offside? i used to tell my 10 year old team that we only push up to compress. and the all whites are stationary waving their hands in the air!?
tuiloma is getting skinned. not his fault, you don't just throw a back 4 together in a few days
smith and durante have never played as a pairing. just like ivan hadn't played in defence for ages before the 1st leg. our limited preparation is made even worse by herbert not building these combinations within the team in the games he's been given
Roux was great on the right and left - fast and skillful. Glad he picked NZ to play for.
Good effort from the AW, but many balls lost in midfield in simple pass situations, But it was a step too high to face el Tri, in a home and away series. And the offside trap defence was awful.
now, let's get oceania into asia and qualify directly next time
That was a hell of a lot of fun. I said before the game I didn't think 2 would be enough in central midfield and I think that was the case in the end. We looked comically open at times. James, Roux and Kosta were the standouts for me (think Kosta needs to learn when to pick a pass though). Thought Durante really struggled over 2 legs. And Brockie - if someone could get hold of him 6 or 7 years ago and taught him how to play football he could be a great player. But he just doesn't understand the game.
Great spirit to keep on pushing at the end there, I really enjoyed that
Normo's coming home
Enjoyed that despite result. Roux fantastic.
Promising signs but still lack depth
Durante are worst
Fallon was really good when he came on, showed a mentor figure for the youngsters, very much improved second half...you got them there for the taking, if only nz would had played like that 2nd half ...
yea ill take back a fair bit of stick ive given fallon, hes come on and look settled and solid. well done that man!
Only moan I have at RH today is that he bothered with Brockie. Should have started with Fallon and not pulled Smeltz. Fenton played well today too I thought.
Really good signs for the future! feeling a lot better now. Just a shame that this side was only put out now, four years to prepare and 3 guys getting debuts in the playoff is criminal! had they been working together for a year or two, the defensive shave could have been better.
Lets hope we can build for next time round, and not have to play a team of Mexico's caliber.
That was a hell of a lot of fun. I said before the game I didn't think 2 would be enough in central midfield and I think that was the case in the end. We looked comically open at times. James, Roux and Kosta were the standouts for me (think Kosta needs to learn when to pick a pass though). Thought Durante really struggled over 2 legs. And Brockie - if someone could get hold of him 6 or 7 years ago and taught him how to play football he could be a great player. But he just doesn't understand the game.
Great spirit to keep on pushing at the end there, I really enjoyed that
Fallon was really good when he came on, showed a mentor figure for the youngsters, very much improved second half...you got them there for the taking, if only nz would had played like that 2nd half ...
Norwich City supporter since 1992, New Zealand supporter since 2010 but without Rory Fallon's winning goal against Bahrain, I won't know about New Zealand Football.
really impressed with storm. MOM for us. Bill looked promising, as did fenton. Rojas and Kosta we busy but not always effective. just add a few passes to their game tonight and we would have opened up their defence a lot more.
future is looking bright for the AW, despite not going to the WC
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
Roux was great on the right and left - fast and skillful. Glad he picked NZ to play for.
Norwich City supporter since 1992, New Zealand supporter since 2010 but without Rory Fallon's winning goal against Bahrain, I won't know about New Zealand Football.
Roux was great on the right and left - fast and skillful. Glad he picked NZ to play for.
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
Good effort from the AW, but many balls lost in midfield in simple pass situations, But it was a step too high to face el Tri, in a home and away series. And the offside trap defence was awful.
Norwich City supporter since 1992, New Zealand supporter since 2010 but without Rory Fallon's winning goal against Bahrain, I won't know about New Zealand Football.
Really good signs for the future! feeling a lot better now. Just a shame that this side was only put out now, four years to prepare and 3 guys getting debuts in the playoff is criminal! had they been working together for a year or two, the defensive shave could have been better.
Lets hope we can build for next time round, and not have to play a team of Mexico's caliber.
Really good signs for the future! feeling a lot better now. Just a shame that this side was only put out now, four years to prepare and 3 guys getting debuts in the playoff is criminal! had they been working together for a year or two, the defensive shave could have been better.
Lets hope we can build for next time round, and not have to play a team of Mexico's caliber.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
Great sign to see those good young players come through. Some weren't ready or known really a few years back so can't blame Herbert for that. But in the end, a traditional strength, our defensive organisation was appalling. Alarm bells were there early with Durante done for pace. Some of the back four had just met each other, let alone played as a unit. Campaign was a screwup since Oceania thing. No need to re-visit that now. Most important thing is the quality of the new guys, something that won't be lost on any decent coaches who apply.
Where we were at in the second half of the second leg in terms of cohesion and effectiveness, is where we should have been at a few months ago during friendlies. If only the team had about six more games together between the last Oceania qualifier in March and these play-offs....
Will be an interesting time on these forums in coming months with speculation about the new AW's coach.
New NZF CEO to be announced in next few days apparently....
Who will it be?
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
Let's be serious, Mexico was already walking in the pitch long ago...
Edit:
There you have it, we just tried something once again and there's the fourth...
Far far better performance. Brockie you greedy fuck. The crosses are still a complete mess, but the
young guys look good, hope for the future, didnt like how herbert sucked up too management though with
his speech with dewhurst. all in all, this was probably the best we couldve hope for, must of been amazing
to be there when fallon scored.
Just got back, overall pretty happy with the way this team is shaping up.
Thought Durante was appalling, Brockie looked lost again.
Smith was immense, Bill and Roux looked the goods, Costa had a good game, Rojas was good but a little slow (that play where he almost dribbled through their whole team.... wow). I do think we are one DM away from a really good team.
some folks in england said that football is a tricky game, suited for the wiser, men, today the mexican looked wiser and thats it
Well I'd hope Mexico were always going to produce much better teams than us with their huge population, financial input & passion for the game.
We have the population of Sydney, little money and not much passion amongst the general population for football...
We're producing a few good players like Rojas, Roux, Thomas and Wood but many of our team are not top professional standard.
We can't afford world-class coaches in NZ - and can't even afford for our team to play regularly....
Having said that, actually there aren't many teams with our small population above us on the FIFA rankings...
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
That was actually an enjoyable watch...the boys gave it there all, and although Mexico were a class above us, we played alot better, passed it around quite well, created chances, never gave up...the youngsters all did well, the centre backs are a bit slow though (Durante and Smith), but over all, although we lost, I feel we may look back at this game (say in 2018 qualifyiers) and say that this was the start of a new era for NZ football. The crowd was fantastic, well done to you guys who were there, Im sure the NZ and Mexican supporters will be having a great night.
That was a hell of a lot of fun. I said before the game I didn't think 2 would be enough in central midfield and I think that was the case in the end. We looked comically open at times. James, Roux and Kosta were the standouts for me (think Kosta needs to learn when to pick a pass though). Thought Durante really struggled over 2 legs. And Brockie - if someone could get hold of him 6 or 7 years ago and taught him how to play football he could be a great player. But he just doesn't understand the game.
Great spirit to keep on pushing at the end there, I really enjoyed that
Normo's coming home
Well I hope everyone enjoyed that 3-0 half time shalacking we received when playing attacking
Would the defence have been any better if Ricki picked Siggi over Dura? I am not sure. He has the heart but is no more skilful.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
Just got back, overall pretty happy with the way this team is shaping up.
Thought Durante was appalling, Brockie looked lost again.
Smith was immense, Bill and Roux looked the goods, Costa had a good game, Rojas was good but a little slow (that play where he almost dribbled through their whole team.... wow). I do think we are one DM away from a really good team.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
Much better to watch than the Azteca game. Pleased Ricki finally released the youngsters and they pressed forward. Roux was good and Tuiloma will get better. Costa was a buzzing bee but Rojas and Smeltz showed effects of injury layoff and faded. Had Reid been available instead of Durante I believe this back lineup of Reid, Smith Roux and Tuiloma would have made us much more competitive. Would have Liked Fallon to have had more time and certainly replaced Brockie at half time. The two I didn't think should be there were Brockie and Durante. Don't think Brockie reads a game well. Would have liked to see more of Henderson. Thought Fenton showed composure.
Overall 3-4 would have been a fair result. The future looks good when you throw in Reid and Wood. Hopefully Fitzgerald (J league) and Ryan Thomas (Holland) will get a chance now that Ricki's gone.
I feel much better now. Lets plan ahead for the next Confederations Cup (2017) with this exciting crop of young players.