interesting side story, Cardiff City are not eligible for the UEFA Cup if they win the FA Cup...
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Quote terminator x "It's clear that Oceania have already made the decision to invite the Phoenix into next year's O-League (the only problem this year being timing and fairness, which seems reasonable) making most of this debate a waste of time!"
Ain't that the truth.
And who's our rep in Oceania? Non other than ' have it my way or no way' RD, NZ's answer to Silvio Berlusconi.
Grey and Miserable personified.
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Cant you see that nobody wants the Phoenix Asia doesnt and neither does Oceania
they put themselves in no mans lands why should Oceania bail them out?
wooden spooners forever!!!!
they put themselves in no mans lands why should Oceania bail them out?
wooden spooners forever!!!!
See, here I am being civil, merely playing devils advocate as I have made it clear that I don't support the idea of the Phoenix playing in Oceania, but you still have to come across as a blinkered git...
Congrats Phil, those who refer to you as Grey and Miserable do seem to have you pegged.
Thats cause he spends all his time at the Dogs Bollix....
Have'nt been to Dogs Bollix in months!!!
Do you know what nemesis means
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Inferior to ted... superb. Please, don't stop Billy, it's hilarious.
I SO want my life to revolve around being an internet warrior and head of the 'Grey and Miserables'.
The one thing I will give him credit for is that (apart from once) he doesn't feel the need to sing his own praises about this level of support. You and your idolisation of him however verges on the disturbing... BillyAuckland, king of the knob polishers.
I SO want my life to revolve around being an internet warrior and head of the 'Grey and Miserables'.
The one thing I will give him credit for is that (apart from once) he doesn't feel the need to sing his own praises about this level of support. You and your idolisation of him however verges on the disturbing... BillyAuckland, king of the knob polishers.
With a name like Baiter I really expected it to be more difficult to reel you in!
However, I think I now 'OWN YOU'
Who's yer Daddy
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ah, okay Billy... good luck with that.
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Inferior to ted... superb. Please, don't stop Billy, it's hilarious.
I SO want my life to revolve around being an internet warrior and head of the 'Grey and Miserables'.
The one thing I will give him credit for is that (apart from once) he doesn't feel the need to sing his own praises about this level of support. You and your idolisation of him however verges on the disturbing... BillyAuckland, king of the knob polishers.
I SO want my life to revolve around being an internet warrior and head of the 'Grey and Miserables'.
The one thing I will give him credit for is that (apart from once) he doesn't feel the need to sing his own praises about this level of support. You and your idolisation of him however verges on the disturbing... BillyAuckland, king of the knob polishers.
With a name like Baiter I really expected it to be more difficult to reel you in!
However, I think I now 'OWN YOU'
Who's yer Daddy
Just an observation but I think if anyone "owns" anybody here, Yellow Fever owns the ACFC branch of the Flat Earth Society.
After all, you do seem to spend a significant amount of time on this website trying to convince us of such gems as "you're all Aussies", "Cardiff is actually in England" and "Sepp Blatter is a reasonable man who will listen to our pleas for mercy".
Personally, I've never looked at the ACFC website or message board (if such a thing exists) because frankly, I couldn't give a sh*t!
The irony being that you can only really prove me wrong by not replying at all.
Over to you "Daddy"...
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Cause we like to go to the oppositions home turf occasionally, thats why 
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Cause we like to go to the oppositions home turf occasionally, thats why
I thought the whole point of your argument is that the Phoenix are an Australian side, so hardly your 'opposition'... unless you are now saying we'll meet in the O-League.
Hard News2008-03-12 15:52:35
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Won't be chanter HN. He wasn't there the other week against Canty when it pissed down so couldn't pass comment on how grand the performance of 248 was.
Three for me, and two for them.
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We always did our best work in the rain...
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Little bit of credit where it is due Terminator.
ACFC have "put the points on the board" so to speak - whereas the Phoenix are only one season old and do not have any football silverware to speak of...yet. Maybe 2008/09 is the year?
ACFC conversely were formed in 2004 and have attained the following:
NZFC Title 3 times consecutively in 04/05, 05/06 & 06/07;
Oceania Club Championships 2006;
OFC Rep at FIFA Club World Cup 2006;
National Youth League Champions 2007;
& were also voted Auckland Sports Team of the Year for 2006;
If the club wins the NZFC title again this year they will be the only club in history to have achieved 4 consecutive titles since the national league commenced in 1970.
Individually...
Two of their players Greg Uhlmann and Ross Nicholson are currently equal with 6 other players, including legends Steve Sumner and Ronnie Armstrong, as the all-time leaders of national league titles won, with 5 to their name.
Grant Young was the NZFC Golden Boot in 2004/05 and NZFC Player of the Year in 2004/05 & 2005/06, Keryn Jordan NZFC Golden Boot in 2005/06 and Ben Sigmund NZFC Player of the Year in 2006/07.
NZ football legend and ACFC Property Steward, Arthur Egan, was made a Life Member of NZF for his services to football in this country in 2007 also.
Certainly team, club and individual achievements to be proud of by anyone's reckoning don't you agree Terminator?
Can't really knock Billy Aucks for getting a little over-excited about his club when they have produced a record like that in 3 and a bit seasons can ya???
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*yawn*
this topic is so boring now.
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*yawn*
this topic is so boring now.
Why did you feel the need to read it then let alone comment on it?
Three for me, and two for them.
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most of us hav been reading it since the day someone brought up in the media phoenix shld b in o-league ever since then this argument has gone absoutly nowhere.
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Cause we like to go to the oppositions home turf occasionally, thats why
I thought the whole point of your argument is that the Phoenix are an Australian side, so hardly your 'opposition'... unless you are now saying we'll meet in the O-League.
Of course you are opposition!
Every time your lot drag our game down, its then up to the teams of NZ to try and get it back up again!
In reality, your everyones opposition in this country 
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Well done Billy. The Phoenix average 12k for the season and drag the sport down. Generate more positive press than the game has had in five years and a million other things, yet somehow they drag the game down. 30,000 for the Beckham game, dragged the game down ? Even though the club finished last pretty much all the press were unanimous the season was a success, but the Phoenix drag the game down ?
Excellent logic. Name one way in which the Phoenix have dragged the game down ?
You are aware that the total number of people in this country who think that amount to about ten ? Even most of the Auckland fan base support the Phoenix. There are more Aucklanders on here backing the Phoenix than against it, last time I was at McLeod Road there were Auckland fans in the stands wearing Phoenix gear, but we're the mortal enemy ?
Hard News2008-03-12 19:37:37
Excellent logic. Name one way in which the Phoenix have dragged the game down ?
You are aware that the total number of people in this country who think that amount to about ten ? Even most of the Auckland fan base support the Phoenix. There are more Aucklanders on here backing the Phoenix than against it, last time I was at McLeod Road there were Auckland fans in the stands wearing Phoenix gear, but we're the mortal enemy ?
Hard News2008-03-12 19:37:37
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Cause we like to go to the oppositions home turf occasionally, thats why
I thought the whole point of your argument is that the Phoenix are an Australian side, so hardly your 'opposition'... unless you are now saying we'll meet in the O-League.
Of course you are opposition!
Every time your lot drag our game down, its then up to the teams of NZ to try and get it back up again!
In reality, your everyones opposition in this country
y don't you just set up a auckland city forum and then you can knob suck some of your 5 fans up their. the banner at the top of this bag under yellow fever reads "SUPPORTERS OF WELLINGTON PHOENIX" now sure some of the time we do not always hav positive things to say but you my friend are the opposite to support u are a downright w**ker so go somewhere else and start the "auckland we would do so much better website"
tawa2008-03-12 19:41:12
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They have one. It has about 30 members and about 5 posts a month.
Even that is down since the main protagonists on there have moved here...
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does billy work for nzf cause maybe thats were things hav gone horribly wrong?
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Superb. That's what they used to say on the Auckland forums about anyone who supported the Phoenix idea "oh, you must work for NZ Football"
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y don't you just set up a auckland city forum and then you can knob suck some of your 5 fans up their.
Uncalled for you t**ser.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Alright lads...tawa, some Auckland fans deserve your grief from what I can see, some don't. Let's try and remember that.
Buffy, you will get caught in the crossfire when people behave like Billy is, sorry.
Buffy, you will get caught in the crossfire when people behave like Billy is, sorry.
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Steady on guys.
What I was trying to point out before (in a roundabout way I admit) was that we should be nicer to the members of the ACFC Flat Earth Society who put up a front of hating the Phoenix but are on here so often that they are clearly in denial and have actually got a great big hard-on for Yellow Fever (yes happyted, Billy and Uli, I'm talking about you).
It must be really hard living with such internal conflict. Think about it as if you had a friend who you know is gay but just hasn't come out of the closet yet. For the members of the ACFC Flat Earth Society this is their guilty pleasure.
terminator_x2008-03-12 20:34:54
What I was trying to point out before (in a roundabout way I admit) was that we should be nicer to the members of the ACFC Flat Earth Society who put up a front of hating the Phoenix but are on here so often that they are clearly in denial and have actually got a great big hard-on for Yellow Fever (yes happyted, Billy and Uli, I'm talking about you).
It must be really hard living with such internal conflict. Think about it as if you had a friend who you know is gay but just hasn't come out of the closet yet. For the members of the ACFC Flat Earth Society this is their guilty pleasure.
terminator_x2008-03-12 20:34:54
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as per HN comments ...
OK kids, there are legitimate arguments for and against the Phoenix competing in the O-League and/or representing Oceania. I think that is where this thread started. Hard to remember now. But this discussion has degenerated horribly.
I don't personally mind if the Auckland die-hards want to boost our web traffic statistics by bashing the Phoenix and making ludicrous statements about the Phoenix "dragging the game down" - but let's make sure we don't dignify that kind of rant by retaliating in kind or with personal rubbish. Let them rot in their own frustration and self pity.
We will have to close the thread down if the garbage continues.
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as per HN comments ...
OK kids, there are legitimate arguments for and against the
Phoenix competing in the O-League and/or representing Oceania. I think
that is where this thread started. Hard to remember now. But this
discussion has degenerated horribly.
I don't personally mind if the Auckland die-hards want to boost
our web traffic statistics by bashing the Phoenix and making ludicrous
statements about the Phoenix "dragging the game down" - but let's make
sure we don't dignify that kind of rant by retaliating in kind or with
personal rubbish. Let them rot in their own frustration and self pity.
We will have to close the thread down if the garbage continues.
I do agree.
From now on if someone from ACFC says something negative about the Phoenix and/or YF just remember that their football orientation is a bit confused right now and they are still "in the closet".
It may help you to understand them if you read a copy of the ACFC Flat Earth Society manifesto which you can view here:
http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm
Now I'm off to watch "Lost", the plot of which makes far more sense than most of this debate.
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It's Wednesday... nothing worth watching until the Daily Show.
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Little bit of credit where it is due Terminator.
If the club wins the NZFC title again this year they will be the only club in history to have achieved 4 consecutive titles since the national league commenced in 1970.
I'd just like to remind you Auckland City is a franchise not a club. It is not playing in "the national league" but the NZFC.
A dog with a bone :)
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I'm really looking forward to watching Team Wellington play the Phoenix in the O-League final 
A dog with a bone :)
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I'd just like to remind you Auckland City is a franchise not a club. It is not playing in "the national league" but the NZFC.
Its nation wide and its a league
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it must be a ..........
Agent 472008-03-12 22:17:52
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Little bit of credit where it is due Terminator.
If the club wins the NZFC title again this year they will be the only club in history to have achieved 4 consecutive titles since the national league commenced in 1970.
I'd just like to remind you Auckland City is a franchise not a club. It is not playing in "the national league" but the NZFC.
The Nix must be a franchise too then.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Cause we like to go to the oppositions home turf occasionally, thats why
I thought the whole point of your argument is that the Phoenix are an Australian side, so hardly your 'opposition'... unless you are now saying we'll meet in the O-League.
Of course you are opposition!
Every time your lot drag our game down, its then up to the teams of NZ to try and get it back up again!
In reality, your everyones opposition in this country
y don't you just set up a auckland city forum and then you can knob suck some of your 5 fans up their. the banner at the top of this bag under yellow fever reads "SUPPORTERS OF WELLINGTON PHOENIX" now sure some of the time we do not always hav positive things to say but you my friend are the opposite to support u are a downright w**ker so go somewhere else and start the "auckland we would do so much better website"
Why have a topic OFC/NZFC then?
Your neither!
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Great record that of ACFC...cerainly one of the finest of any sports team in NZ over the past few years without question...here's hoping the Phoenix can claim some A-League silverware soon and challenge ACFC as NZ's most successful current football club.
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Little bit of credit where it is due Terminator.
If the club wins the NZFC title again this year they will be the only club in history to have achieved 4 consecutive titles since the national league commenced in 1970.
I'd just like to remind you Auckland City is a franchise not a club. It is not playing in "the national league" but the NZFC.
The Nix must be a franchise too then.
A franchise is a club - it is simply created within a particular regulatory environment that means it will have certain characteristics that other "clubs" may not. That doesn't make a franchise any more or less valid as a club than any other, and there is no single definition of what a club is.
In fact, over the course of history I'm sure there are many different examples of how football clubs have come into existence according to the particular circumstances prevailing at the time. For example, Barcelona is probably the world's best example of a mutual association - owned by many thousands of individual members. By contrast, PSV Eindhoven were started as a works team - for the benefit of the employees of Phillips. But neither of these club structures is typical in say, the UK.
Most professional clubs around the world have far more in common with our franchise clubs (the Phoenix and the NZFC clubs) than they do with what we more commonly refer to as a "club".
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Great record that of ACFC...cerainly one of the finest of any sports team in NZ over the past few years without question...here's hoping the Phoenix can claim some A-League silverware soon and challenge ACFC as NZ's most successful current football club.
And for once I agree with you. ACFC have been very successful and the Phoenix will do well to emulate that.
Unfortunately for you, the first piece of silverware that the Phoenix are likely to win is next year's O-League. But maybe we shouldn't get into that!
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First piece of silverware????
The A-League is over before the O-League Finals commence Terminator...surely you haven't put the white flag up before the season has even started????
What about winning the A-League first?
I dont think ACFC have ever begun a season expecting anything other than the championship...
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