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Youngheart

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah, I spotted the Nieres handball as well...but I didn't think of it as "holding" the ball. It briefly touched his hand and he sheilded the ball (by mistake). You can't really defend the kick in the back from the defender. And yes, youngheart, I will be there, probably for every game for the rest of the season (and maybe life in the Manawatu). The schoolboys had me very confused. Weren't they singing a "Youngheart" chant at the start?
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
yes they were singing youngheart but they were just singing louder than frenzy :-)
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Well at least we are scoring goals now...

Ian Robinson I have to say looks off the pace sometimes during games. Niggling injury, age catching up with him, or just not fit enough? I'd be tempted to play Adam Cowan in his place. Are we playing 3 across the back? We need to bloody well stop doing that for a start. Peni Finau was immense today save for a couple of mistakes in the first half. He needs a quick, pacey, fast (how else can I say bloody swift!!) defender along side him and then we'd be flying. Once again poor calls from the ref let us down. Who the hell is Matt Adams? looked good when he came on even if he got sent off 5 minutes later.

Quansar worked his ass off and Nieres showed some superb technical skill but they're just not getting in scoring positions. Need Osea back, him and Nieres up front with Nieres playing right up in the 6 yard box. 4 across the back and 4 in the midfield.

Chettleburgh was superb with his runs and pace but is prone to hogging the ball at times.

Bailey is a future all white I'd say. He's showing confidence and skill beyond his years and we have him to thank alot of the time. Definitely not a penalty that he gave away. He went for the ball and the hawkes bay guy couldn't help tripping up.

Hawkes bay couldn't stay off the ground in the first half but they dived alot less in second half.
WillyB2008-03-09 17:45:25
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Matt Adams is Lower Hutt, ex-NZ U-23 (or U-20) rep, and been with Team Wellington for the previous two seasons.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ian Robinson has not looked as good as he did last year with Sandbrook. In my opinion, they were the best midfielders in the comp last year.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i do believe that once again the football gods have shat on the youngheart
bloody hell!!!
i tell ya young robson should be captain =robbo can go play his game
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The Evening Standard said it was Aliaga who came on and subsequently got sent off News...bloody useless reporting, or bloody useless announcing at the game...either way it'd be fairly typical.


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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
WillyB wrote:
The Evening Standard said it was Aliaga who came on and subsequently got sent off News...bloody useless reporting, or bloody useless announcing at the game...either way it'd be fairly typical.


 
Aliaga isn't that tall. Do you know why he was sent off. I was watching the play further upfield and all of a sudden, 2 blokes are getting their marching orders.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Same position I was in. NZFC says it was Aliaga who got sent off. Not sure what happened.

Embarrassing loss at Otago it has to be said. This season is a complete write off.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
WillyB wrote:
Same position I was in. NZFC says it was Aliaga who got sent off. Not sure what happened.

Embarrassing loss at Otago it has to be said. This season is a complete write off.
 
Yeah. Next game at Memorial Park as well. Been a while since I've been there. I only have tickets for FMG stadium games so might have to actually pay for this one
Surely we can beat Canterbury in our last home game. Do you know whats happened to Osea? Is he still here?
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
  Whats that??  you're next home game at Memorial Park???  ...and so it should be.That should help generate some atmosphere as its a complete waste of time playing at FMG. I realise its got the facilities for the corperates but in the long term they will generate more interest at Memorial. Imagine what it would sound like ifyou could get some chanting going????  Create an atmosphere at it will attract more people.Playing footy at FMG is like building a triple garage for a bicycle...
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Well that game summed up our season. Nieres superb once again but the defense obviously lacking, although I couldn't make it to the game to see for sure. How we have collapsed so catastrophically I am not sure, but re-building for next season must begin fairly quickly. Rufers position needs to be reviewed but I don't think it is or should be a foregone conclusion that he is sacked.

Play up Youngheart!
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almost 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
You wouldn't have thought the team in white were bottom of the league. Clinical finishing by Canterbury and very soft defence from Manawatu. Good goal from Nieres and he could have had a hatrick late in the second half as their keeper pulled off 3 great saves when faced with 3 point blank one on one situations. Oh well, theres always next season.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Manawatu will be playing all their home games this season back at Memorial Park. A lot closer and intimate for the fans.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
How does that fit in with the NZFCs 'facilities' criteria which was the whole point of this NZFC creation 4 years ago anyway?
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
That was mentioned and yes, improvements are going to have to be made.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I wondered about the facilities too when I read that. Not much to offer the sponsers.
For me personally I love the idea of Memorial Park.- it has a bit of atmosphere to it as the match there vs Waitakere last season showed. While the Arena has the facilities it has no atmosphere and you are so far from the pitch. With crowds of -300 it was a bit of a joke really.

We Still Love You Colin We Do!

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
That was mentioned and yes, improvements are going to have to be made.


There were grand plans for corporates and club rooms on the top floor of the amenities block and yanking the cycling track out.

Those things likely to happen ?

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
That news about Memorial Park and that Finn Milne is looking forward to playing this season are about the only positives coming out in the YoungHeart "news" at the present time. Otherwise it all seems rather uninspiring.

We Still Love You Colin We Do!

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Bob Sova will be the coach and boy hes got a personality of a jelly fish...........
He will no dout get some one else to talk to the media as i dont think he could
But apparently the players are happy about him coaching but fark me they better get in the transfer market soon!!!
Roydhouse Wilkinson goooooone Mouse is thinking of going to Auckland but he had a crap season any way
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Sandbrook by all accounts had the best season out of all the players. Only one who seemed to be bothered and on his game when everyone else was just crumbling around him. Where have Roydhouse and Wilkinson gone?!
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ahh I see, they've gone to america universities. seems a wise move
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Manawatu will be playing all their home games this season back at Memorial Park. A lot closer and intimate for the fans.


It's easily the better and consist playing surface which has more merit for their player skills and development in the large scheme of things. Cheaper and would assist beginning crowd growth. It's not that much difference to Kiwitea street is it?

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Don't know. I haven't had the pleasure of a match at Kiwitea Street. It was being resurfaced when I went to watch YoungHeart up there last season. Memorial does at least have a bit of football history to it - been to some great national league games there over the years.

We Still Love You Colin We Do!

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i heard a former manawatu player based in waikato was going to get the YHM job? sova seems a desperate selection from the YHM board and they will have to work hard to stop Colin Tuaa from lifting the likes of robinsopn, Cowan and Sandbrook. I fear YHM are going to have a rough summer ahead of them at this rate.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Couldn't be much rougher than last summer. On a postive note though, the Uruguayans have been hitting form for Marist during the winter season.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
At last some good news in tonight's paper - Ian Sandbrook is staying with YoungHeart. Let's hope they sort out the coaching situation pronto and start confirming a useful squad.

We Still Love You Colin We Do!

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tonights paper says no coach appointed yet. Only team in NZFC without a coach. Rufer apparently would have liked to remain.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I am not sure but I think that Rufer is still isn't finish as yet. He has applied again, i believe.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I don't know for sure but have the feeling it's all a bit of a shambles behind the scenes. I'm disappointed Rufer wasn't given it in the first place. I think he was doing good things for Manawatu football. I don't think the off the field stuff helped him much last season.

We Still Love You Colin We Do!

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Fricking heck!!! I've just read last night's paper and while I treat anything in the media with a heavy dose of scepticism (eg Ryan Nelsen comments) it seems to confirm exactly what I have been thinking for some time. Sounds like they have completely cut Rufer as an option which seems bl**dy stupid to me if their preferred choice is now stuffing them around and may not sign. Who is the backup if negotiations fall through?
Also why is the franchise manager involved in this process when he is moving on within the month? When it all turns to custard he'll be long gone and no longer accountable.
Sort it out YoungHeart or you will continue to haemorrhage supporters at an alarming rate. Which reminds me I'd better practice my chants:
 
"Army Of One
We're An Army Of One
Army Of O-ne
We're An Army Of O-ne"

We Still Love You Colin We Do!

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I don't know for sure but have the feeling it's all a bit of a shambles behind the scenes. I'm disappointed Rufer wasn't given it in the first place. I think he was doing good things for Manawatu football. I don't think the off the field stuff helped him much last season.


On field stuff probably didnt help either...
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Good to see you're still about Willy and Joe.

We Still Love You Colin We Do!

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
But living in Wellington so won't catch too much of the Youngheart this season! But on the news we've got of them so far, maybe thats not a bad thing at all...

Hope to see you at Newtown Park when Youngheart come of course though!
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

YoungHeart Manawatu chairman Paul Barris is confident Manawatu is well placed for the upcoming national league despite the delay in naming a coach.

"As far as I'm concerned we're in a far stronger position than we were at the same time last year," Barris said.

"I'm confident that we are going to have a very good team."

Barris said it was no surprise that sacked coach Shane Rufer was critical of the delay because he was now out of a job.

"He [Rufer] is out of the loop now. It's not because he doesn't like Sports Management Services that he wasn't reappointed as coach. That's neither here nor there."

Barris said meetings have been held with senior Manawatu players to keep them informed about the appointment process. ""But it's been on a need-to-know basis."

An announcement, he said, would be made shortly.

Barris expected YoungHeart would again have a strong South American influence but he hoped talented players from around New Zealand could be attracted.

He said several Uruguayan professionals were lining up to play, while last year's imports Pablo Yackson (defender) and Gonzalo Nieres (striker) would be part of the team.

"We'll be giving locals the first go and then we'll see how strong the team will be. Based on how that's gone, then we'll then bring some imports in.

"Nieres wants to come back and he will be on a plane in a matter of days."

Barris said other positives for YoungHeart included the switch to the traditional soccer ground at Memorial Park, while he was pleased with recent performances from Palmerston North Marist and North End.

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YoungHeart Manawatu chairman Paul Barris is confident Manawatu is well placed for the upcoming national league despite the delay in naming a coach.

"As far as I'm concerned we're in a far stronger position than we were at the same time last year," Barris said.

Gee that wouldn't take much given the chaotic build up to last season.
 
I hear that Yackson has been playing well for Marist but he certainly didn't impress for YH. Only Nieres was a success of the 4 imports from last season. The thought of more substandard import players being brought in doesn't fill me with delight.
 
We hope to attract other quality NZ players. I would suggest that if that process isn't well underway then we have probably missed the boat for this year. As I am only a passionate supporter I guess I don't "need to know".
 
I would love to know the reason for Rufer being given the boot. Perhaps personalities? If it's results based then that's a bit short sighted. Colin Tuaa could have lost his job when YH finished bottom a couple of years ago instead he stayed on and took us into the playoffs. If anyone knows, your correspondence will be treated with the strickest confidence - no gossip and rumours please.
 
I hope like hell the board know what they're doing because their decisions now are going to have a major effect on Manawatu football for years to come.
 
Finally after all this ranting and negativity on my part, I hope that I am back on this forum in April eatting humble pie,admitting my stupidity and lack of faith and football knowledge after YH have had their most successful season ever.
zizoustainrod2008-08-16 11:28:30

We Still Love You Colin We Do!

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Also, I see that Julie Keane has been appointed the new Franchise Manager.

We Still Love You Colin We Do!

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
'need to know'!?!?!?!?!?!?
 
that's just t**ser speak for we don't know what we're doing and we don't want anyone to know about it

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Mmmph . . . they forgotten already the amount of work he has been doing about Manawatu. Those imports were a failure at team play at the end of the day and Rufer is big on team combinations and the players didn't pull through last season. IMHO.
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