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Coliseum Sports - EPL Overlords

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over 11 years ago

Dougie Rydal wrote:

From Piney just now...

http://tvnz.co.nz/football-news/premier-league-2014-15-tvnz-5531819

http://www.voxy.co.nz/sport/tvnz-screen-english-premiere-league-live/5/198740

first game Tottenham v West Ham, Everton v arsenal the week after, manchester city v stoke city the week after.
highlights show tuesday nights, I assume after the late news at 11 o'clock. with the move to tuesday nights they should have highlights from all games of the round as the monday night (uk time) games will have been played.

over 11 years ago

re-subscribed - which I expect I will do as long as Hull City are in the Prem

for fans of the 'not big' EPL clubs this service beats the hell out of anything Sky ever gave us

over 11 years ago

tigers wrote:

re-subscribed - which I expect I will do as long as Hull City are in the Prem

for fans of the 'not big' EPL clubs this service beats the hell out of anything Sky ever gave us

This. If you support the likes of Newcastle, Everton, Villa, West Ham, Stoke than PLP is great value I think. 



over 11 years ago

iOS app update. Looks mainly like an aesthetic, to make it look like the new website plus there is a new logo.

over 11 years ago

Can you pay plp off over months or is it a one up front hit?

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The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

over 11 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

Can you pay plp off over months or is it a one up front hit?

20 a month or 200 up front.



over 11 years ago

They have added a monthly payment option this season ($19.90 a month). Works out the same overall as the full amount up front over the 10 month season. However the returning subscriber discount is only for the full subscription up front.

over 11 years ago

ajc28 wrote:

They have added a monthly payment option this season ($19.90 a month). Works out the same overall as the full amount up front over the 10 month season. However the returning subscriber discount is only for the full subscription up front.

Cool, I can accept that and so too can the wife.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

over 11 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

ajc28 wrote:

They have added a monthly payment option this season ($19.90 a month). Works out the same overall as the full amount up front over the 10 month season. However the returning subscriber discount is only for the full subscription up front.

Cool, I can accept that and so too can the wife.

Just checking, the $19.90 a month over the season, is it only for the 10 months of the season or do you get charged for 12 months?

over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

I asked that on Facebook and they didn't answer but I would assume it would only be for the 10 months of the season which I guess is how they came up with the price to make it match the $199 for the full season. If it's monthly presumably you can cancel it at any time too.

over 11 years ago

ajc28 wrote:

I asked that on Facebook and they didn't answer but I would assume it would only be for the 10 months of the season which I guess is how they came up with the price to make it match the $199 for the full season. If it's monthly presumably you can cancel it at any time too.

Well, considering they have a month pass at $50, I assume the $20 a month option is tied into a contract as such and you will have to pay off the full $200 before you can cancel. That's what I think, otherwise why have the month pass ?



over 11 years ago

Ah right good point. They will have to confirm but surely it's for the 10 months of the season and not 12 months.

over 11 years ago

SEASONPASSREUP code is open to everyone as an early bird, so it's not just for resubscribers now. $150 for the season pass. This code is apparently valid til 19 August.
FOOTBALLUNITED code for week free trial, just go to purchase a week pass and chuck in the code and it'll be free.

over 11 years ago

Also on the monthly payments, the season subscription runs til 31 July which is more than the ten months of the season. So it may be 19.90 each month for 12 months. It would probably help if they updated the terms of service with the new products and pricing.

over 11 years ago

Wonder why the earlybird discount has been extended to everyone. Perhaps with a week to go they still have bugger all new subscribers.

over 11 years ago

I signed up to the monthly this evening. Watched last seasons goals and a review of the season. If the quality of the pictures is what I just experienced, I will be very happy. No lag or delay in these but then, they are not live. Fingers crossed.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

Its about the same, in fact you can increase the quality in games to 4500 as the highlight shows only have 3000. Thats assuming your internet connection can handle it. 

The problem I think ajc is talking about is on the wide shots where the camera moves and follows the ball upfield, it (used to for me) stuttered a bit. 

If that didn't happen to you during the highlights, you should be ok. 


Allegedly

over 11 years ago

Cheers. Nice to have watched it on a 10" tablet from the confines of a warm bed on a frosty night.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

over 11 years ago

ajc28 wrote:

Personally, I don't have more options unless I shell out for more equipment (which I never had to with Sky). I have an LG TV and Windows phone and no tablet so there are no apps available to me. My options are laptop or plug laptop into TV. A playstation app can't come soon enough.

Dude, an HD cable is $15, plug that in to your laptop and the other end in to the TV, that's it!! You not gonna get it over $15?

The artist formerly known as Homer Simpson

over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

Have a read of my previous posts over the last 5 or so pages. But to summarise, that's what I have been doing but while it looks great on the laptop, when it's connected to the TV it has terrible motion judder that makes it look as though it was filmed on a handheld camcorder. There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with my equipment as watching other services like Arsenal Player and Sky Go the same way does not have the same issue, and the TV is a 2012 full HD model while the HDMI cable is the one I use with my PS4 which has no issues. The more equipment comment was meaning things like a new Samsung TV or Iphone/Ipad + Apple TV, and even then there's no guarantee it works any better for me.

over 11 years ago

Tegal wrote:

The problem I think ajc is talking about is on the wide shots where the camera moves and follows the ball upfield, it (used to for me) stuttered a bit. 

It was all the time just shaky not just on wide shots with the camera panning. Makes me think it's an issue with their encoding that makes connecting the laptop to TV not a suitable way to watch it, but then it's fine for you so that can't be it. I can't recreate the issue with other services so my equipment seems fine. Very frustrating. I'll see how the first round goes and if it's the same then try PLP's call centre and see if they can suggest anything other than "buy a new Samsung TV."

over 11 years ago

Have you tried checking your drivers for your video card? As daft as it sounds, while it may play fine on your laptop, rendering out the HDMI port is different again.

over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

Pretty sure everything like that is up to date, but will definitely check. Thanks.

over 11 years ago

JonoNewton wrote:

james dean wrote:

zonknz wrote:

james dean wrote:

I think the idea that some start ups are going to overtake established players is pretty fanciful.  SKY in NZ made $80mn profit, they have income of close to half a billion kiwi.  

Just because barriers to entry are lower doesn't mean that a load of new players can afford to flood the market - huge outlay ina acquiring sporting rights.

You've missed the point. New players are coming in because rights owners have high value sporting rights that people want to watch. Going direct allows them to clip a bigger overall ticket, because they can set the market value of their sport/rights with the public, and not be bundled as part of an offering.

It's especially relevant for sports where multiple events happen simultaneously i.e 3pm kickoffs in the Premier League, where internet delivery can ensure customer choice.

I imagine the 'bigger' sports are very interested in the success (or not) of PLP, and it will be how Premier League rights end up being distributed more widely.

Name me one major sports that offers its product direct to the public in their main market.  Does not happen - and it's not even happening here. PLP is just another form of pay TV. 

NFL through GamePass, MLB through MLB TV, NHL through Gamecenter, NBA through "LeaguePass" (Or are you deliberately ignoring the American market because it doesn't match your argument?)

In their main market?

Normo's coming home

over 11 years ago

tigers wrote:

re-subscribed - which I expect I will do as long as Hull City are in the Prem

for fans of the 'not big' EPL clubs this service beats the hell out of anything Sky ever gave us

Agree.  I will take up a one-year subscription.  No more.

I know, I know, its serious!

over 11 years ago

james dean wrote:

JonoNewton wrote:

james dean wrote:

zonknz wrote:

james dean wrote:

I think the idea that some start ups are going to overtake established players is pretty fanciful.  SKY in NZ made $80mn profit, they have income of close to half a billion kiwi.  

Just because barriers to entry are lower doesn't mean that a load of new players can afford to flood the market - huge outlay ina acquiring sporting rights.

You've missed the point. New players are coming in because rights owners have high value sporting rights that people want to watch. Going direct allows them to clip a bigger overall ticket, because they can set the market value of their sport/rights with the public, and not be bundled as part of an offering.

It's especially relevant for sports where multiple events happen simultaneously i.e 3pm kickoffs in the Premier League, where internet delivery can ensure customer choice.

I imagine the 'bigger' sports are very interested in the success (or not) of PLP, and it will be how Premier League rights end up being distributed more widely.

Name me one major sports that offers its product direct to the public in their main market.  Does not happen - and it's not even happening here. PLP is just another form of pay TV. 

NFL through GamePass, MLB through MLB TV, NHL through Gamecenter, NBA through "LeaguePass" (Or are you deliberately ignoring the American market because it doesn't match your argument?)

In their main market?

Arguably American sport should sit outside this debate completely because of the incredibly fragmented TV market in the US and, probably more importantly, the mass amount of content on offer.

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over 11 years ago

bopman wrote:

james dean wrote:

JonoNewton wrote:

james dean wrote:

zonknz wrote:

james dean wrote:

I think the idea that some start ups are going to overtake established players is pretty fanciful.  SKY in NZ made $80mn profit, they have income of close to half a billion kiwi.  

Just because barriers to entry are lower doesn't mean that a load of new players can afford to flood the market - huge outlay ina acquiring sporting rights.

You've missed the point. New players are coming in because rights owners have high value sporting rights that people want to watch. Going direct allows them to clip a bigger overall ticket, because they can set the market value of their sport/rights with the public, and not be bundled as part of an offering.

It's especially relevant for sports where multiple events happen simultaneously i.e 3pm kickoffs in the Premier League, where internet delivery can ensure customer choice.

I imagine the 'bigger' sports are very interested in the success (or not) of PLP, and it will be how Premier League rights end up being distributed more widely.

Name me one major sports that offers its product direct to the public in their main market.  Does not happen - and it's not even happening here. PLP is just another form of pay TV. 

NFL through GamePass, MLB through MLB TV, NHL through Gamecenter, NBA through "LeaguePass" (Or are you deliberately ignoring the American market because it doesn't match your argument?)

In their main market?

Arguably American sport should sit outside this debate completely because of the incredibly fragmented TV market in the US and, probably more importantly, the mass amount of content on offer.

And the majority of major US sport is still available on cable and network TV, so the fact these services exist they are still complimentary to the normal TV market.  I agree, it's very difficult to analyse when there is no consistent country wide approach to selling rights

Normo's coming home

over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

EPL is still available on free to air (live) and on sky (delayed) in a similar way to be fair. 


Allegedly

over 11 years ago

Has collesium ever came out and said how many subscribers they had last year?


Auckland will rise once more

over 11 years ago

do they have to? 


Allegedly

over 11 years ago
If they were happy with it, they would be shouting it from the roof tops (or rather all over the Internet)

Auckland will rise once more

over 11 years ago

james dean wrote:

bopman wrote:

james dean wrote:

JonoNewton wrote:

james dean wrote:

zonknz wrote:

james dean wrote:

I think the idea that some start ups are going to overtake established players is pretty fanciful.  SKY in NZ made $80mn profit, they have income of close to half a billion kiwi.  

Just because barriers to entry are lower doesn't mean that a load of new players can afford to flood the market - huge outlay ina acquiring sporting rights.

You've missed the point. New players are coming in because rights owners have high value sporting rights that people want to watch. Going direct allows them to clip a bigger overall ticket, because they can set the market value of their sport/rights with the public, and not be bundled as part of an offering.

It's especially relevant for sports where multiple events happen simultaneously i.e 3pm kickoffs in the Premier League, where internet delivery can ensure customer choice.

I imagine the 'bigger' sports are very interested in the success (or not) of PLP, and it will be how Premier League rights end up being distributed more widely.

Name me one major sports that offers its product direct to the public in their main market.  Does not happen - and it's not even happening here. PLP is just another form of pay TV. 

NFL through GamePass, MLB through MLB TV, NHL through Gamecenter, NBA through "LeaguePass" (Or are you deliberately ignoring the American market because it doesn't match your argument?)

In their main market?

Arguably American sport should sit outside this debate completely because of the incredibly fragmented TV market in the US and, probably more importantly, the mass amount of content on offer.

And the majority of major US sport is still available on cable and network TV, so the fact these services exist they are still complimentary to the normal TV market.  I agree, it's very difficult to analyse when there is no consistent country wide approach to selling rights

As Tegal said it is virtually the same, so it is a completely fair comparison.

If you want to watch every game you can live, then you need the internet pass in the US for those sports. 

over 11 years ago

Re number of subscribers: Tim Martin said recently that they had a low target, a middle target and a high target and they fell just short of the middle target...


"You can never get a bloody tradesman at Easter, it's a wonder Jesus got crucified" - Karl Pilkington

over 11 years ago

Do SKY ever shout out their subscriber numbers ???? No.



over 11 years ago

Commercially sensitive information. Tim Martin said as much when a caller asked him on Radio Sport the other day.

over 11 years ago

nufc_nz wrote:

Do SKY ever shout out their subscriber numbers ???? No.

Yes they do - this from Aug 23 last year...

'The subscriber base comprises 822,545 residential digital subscribers and 33,353 commercial and other subscribers. Sky is now in 49 per cent of homes. The number of Sky residential subscribers using the MySky personal video has passed the half way mark, at 55 per cent compared to 46.7 per cent last year.'



"You can never get a bloody tradesman at Easter, it's a wonder Jesus got crucified" - Karl Pilkington

over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

Dougie Rydal wrote:

nufc_nz wrote:

Do SKY ever shout out their subscriber numbers ???? No.

Yes they do - this from Aug 23 last year...

'The subscriber base comprises 822,545 residential digital subscribers and 33,353 commercial and other subscribers. Sky is now in 49 per cent of homes. The number of Sky residential subscribers using the MySky personal video has passed the half way mark, at 55 per cent compared to 46.7 per cent last year.'


Nice take down...NOW...

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

over 11 years ago

Dougie Rydal wrote:

nufc_nz wrote:

Do SKY ever shout out their subscriber numbers ???? No.

Yes they do - this from Aug 23 last year...

'The subscriber base comprises 822,545 residential digital subscribers and 33,353 commercial and other subscribers. Sky is now in 49 per cent of homes. The number of Sky residential subscribers using the MySky personal video has passed the half way mark, at 55 per cent compared to 46.7 per cent last year.'


Is that directly from SKY HQ ?



over 11 years ago

I believe Sky have to make that information public for the investors, I am sure they cannot, not declare it.


Whereas PLP is privately owned they do not have to declare it.

The artist formerly known as Homer Simpson

over 11 years ago

OK, credit where it is due Dougie ! I was wrong.