Coliseum Sports - EPL Overlords

Wow some really good news coming through this thread... awesome features etc, I'm stoked

These guys are going up in my books

Asked on Facebook about the interative timeline and they confirmed it can be turned on or off:

"the button with the pin, next to the football that controls the Games bar, turns the timeline on or off. Once this season's games start each will have two options from where to start from, Live or From Start."

figured as much. Was kind of hoping itd also have a seperate bookmark for the start of each half. Will just have to try guess as best as can again. 

Email with the returning subscriber discount has arrived.

Just seen NBC are able to have all matches available on demand http://worldsoccertalk.com/2013/09/13/nbc-will-make-all-premier-league-games-available-on-demand-via-nbc-sports-live-extra-beginning-this-weekend/ why not PLP?
at the start of last season they were only able to have 1-2 games on demand but they negotiated in the early weeks of the season and were able to get all matches on demand starting mid september.

and nearly all of these are available as legal streams, live online. ITV player, BBC Iplayer etc.

Crixket is really the only possible exception.

wouldn't surprise me if the ICC decided to stream cricket online at some point. 

No way, TV money from India basically bankrolls cricket. No way they will go internet based.

I think the idea that some start ups are going to overtake established players is pretty fanciful.  SKY in NZ made $80mn profit, they have income of close to half a billion kiwi.  

Just because barriers to entry are lower doesn't mean that a load of new players can afford to flood the market - huge outlay ina acquiring sporting rights.  In the UK Sky has seen off ESPN, Setanta and ITV over the past 10 years and that's in a market where SKY has to offer their channels via their platform.  It certainly hasn't happened in the UK or the US which has a super competitive TV market plus cheap high quality internet plus a load of penetration.  The big guys will definitely start offering more content via online platforms, but I think you're ignoring how much money they have to see off new competitors.  

If Sky made such a decent profit, why the hell didn't they put in a bigger bid for the EPL? Was all good the season before they lost it.

You've missed the point. New players are coming in because rights owners have high value sporting rights that people want to watch. Going direct allows them to clip a bigger overall ticket, because they can set the market value of their sport/rights with the public, and not be bundled as part of an offering.

It's especially relevant for sports where multiple events happen simultaneously i.e 3pm kickoffs in the Premier League, where internet delivery can ensure customer choice.

I imagine the 'bigger' sports are very interested in the success (or not) of PLP, and it will be how Premier League rights end up being distributed more widely.

Rumour at the time was they didn't want it anymore so deliberately put in a bid they knew would be too low so they could then say "we got outbid, there was nothing we could do." When they saw the backlash, share price falling and people cancelling subscriptions they scrambled to do those last minute deals direct with the big clubs for delayed games. I'd expect them put in a pretty serious bid when it comes up for renewal again after next season.

I hope they don't get it. Sick of not having the option to watch my team LIVE and sure fans of other teams would be the same, especially the mid/lower table clubs like Stoke, Swansea, Man United (sorry...couldn't resist) who got less games LIVE on Sky than the big 6.

I hope Sky do get it and it is the catalyst for a football channel on Sky.

Tim Martin on the Devlin Radio Show tomorrow at 10am

The other point for local sports, A-League, Super Rugby, NRL etc surely has to be that they can stop having to put games at a whole bunch of different times just for TV purposes, if you have an online system that can provide multiple games at the same time for whatever reason something Sky doesn't do. Then you could have the final weekend play at the same time.

Just an idea.

Really? I can't think of a worse outcome. What I'd like is more choice - more live leagues where I can choose what game and view on demand. Notice that is what sky et al do with 'newer' sports like rugby/ a- league - no overlapping games.

The channel delivery model is completely outdated at this point in time. I don't want, watch or care about filler programming. In an I twrent age delayed programming is impossible because avoiding results is now so difficult.

Sky have the rights, they can win this, but it won't be by clinging yo the satellite delivery model.

Not sure that was quite right. The rights are buy at any time.  I'm pretty sure Sky's tactic in the past has been to delay purchasing products as long as possible to drive down the price, because they knew no one else could afford it. Except this time Coliseum jumped in under the radar.

asking the wrong people. Boxy watching his European football, News is an Ipswich fan,  and I barely watched the EPL when it was on sky (mostly just watched the highlights package).

1: Its works on the set up I have. I have a TV, sound system and remote. No fucking about.

2: It costs me nothing extra. As Tegal always says, I pay the $1000 already.

3: I could care less if other live games are on the same times as others. Chances are high I will pick the one that interests me the most in that case and its not like I follow all 20 EPL teams and watch all 10 games. In all honesty, I'll MySky 100% of the games I want to watch anyway cause I'm not getting up and sparrow fart o'clock. 

4: It also wont be the end of the world if I happen to catch the result before I watch the game nor will I lose my shit over it.

I imagine a dedicated football channel to cost extra money, much like the rugby channel. Being as EPL under PLP is $20 a month, it'd probably cost about the same (except it'd be behind a $1200 a year paywall that you have to pay to get it). The service also probably wouldn't be as good since they'd be playing it all from a single channel, which inevitably means delayed games. 

The model is becoming outdated. Sky will need to eventually adapt in some way . 

Totally agree Tegal. I was gutted when it first left Sky but love the freedom of the PLP and they are moving forward into apps (existing and proposed) and hopefully will start to add more content as they get more purchasing power.

It's the best case for me for the same reasons. In HD, on my TV with no stuttering issues and with my remote. I'm already paying for Sky for other sports anyway. And live was never key for me as I always tended to record and watch as live when I got up rather than getting up in the night. I don't necessarily need a dedicated football channel, and as Tegal says that's sure to cost an extra $20 a month or something. The way they did it before spreading games over a few channels was fine and they would still be able to show 4 games live (unless Sky Sport 5 and 6 became more permanent then more), and then the rest straight after them.

The bidding will be interesting after next season.

in that case the current set up is ideal, everyone basically gets about what they want. 

Between sky's and sommet sports delayed games via club channels you get to see a few games delayed (which you don't mind)

And with PLP those who want all games live or the ability to watch whenever they want will get that too. 

Not quite. The delays are just too long. Actually I guess I did care about live as it enables me to record it live and get up when I get up (say 9am on a Sunday) to watch it, I just didn't watch live. Guess what I really mean is that if there's 8 games playing at 3am and Sky only have 3 or 4 channels for live games, then it's no big deal for me if my game screens 5, 7 or 9. The Sky delay for Arsenal TV (and the other clubs) was almost 24 hours on some occasions, and weekday games required getting through full days at work without hearing the result.

So putting it the way you put it, the ability to watch when I want is key for me.

But yes, having done a season of that PLP is the best option this season despite some of the issues with getting it onto the TV. My main requirement is being able to watch every Arsenal game.

With PLP, you simply have more options. I've watched games live on the bus on my way to work on the app, I've logged in at work or watched in bed with the missus telling me to "turn the f@*#ing brightness down".

Sure, you can do that on Sky IF you happen to catch the game at the right time, IF they televised your match. At least with PLP you have the options to watch LIVE or when you like. Sky never gave football the attention it deserved and I'd hate it to go back to a channel that doesn't value it. 

Personally, I don't have more options unless I shell out for more equipment (which I never had to with Sky). I have an LG TV and Windows phone and no tablet so there are no apps available to me. My options are laptop or plug laptop into TV. A playstation app can't come soon enough.

A playstation app would be pretty cool. Would free up the laptop (or tablet) for use while watching games. 

Can't you play the game on their website via your Windows phone or does it not support the player?

I've not tried that so I don't know whether it supports it. Will give it a try but I wouldn't want to watch games on a 4 inch screen.

For the record I believe the answer is 0% of podcast regulars purchased PLP.

I'm thinking about trying it out on the month-by-month plan to see if I use it. I don't care that much about English football to be honest.

What about the Premier League?

Touch cheaper for Coliseum's new  territories for PLP as subscribers there pay a yearly subscription of...

• Taiwan (USD49) 
• Phillipines (USD59)

It's cause they don't have exclusive rights as it's still broadcast on traditional tv there. I tested out a week subscription purchased from taiwan and it seems to work over here. will still buy the full season pass with nz pricing as I don't really want to risk it stop working half way through the season.

Right - gotcha...

Personally I think $149 is good value. I wouldn't want to pay much more to be honest, but happy at that price.

Concern comes for the general sports fan when they get F1, Serie A, Moto GP, UFC etc and start charging for all those. Then for those of us who are cricket tragics and are always going to get Sky for that suddenly end up paying a fortune.

Although personally I wouldn't pay for any of those sports I just mentioned but I guess many would be in that boat.

In a round about way I think you four have answered collesiums biggest problem. The four of you like your football and should be their target audience. You won't however pay extra money for it. However, when it was on sky I dare say you did watch it. Not getting up at 3am but perhaps waking up on a Sunday morning, hung over, having your bacon and eggs and switching on the tv and watching the second half of some game. 

That is where sky works and why people have it. I would never buy an Internet package to watch the commonwealth games but hey if it was on in the evening when I was channel flicking, I would/have watch three hours of gymntastics if the women looked interesting

4 people who don't watch English football not purchasing PLP doesn't equate to a problem. They're not the target audience.

Of course they are Tegal don't be naive