Liverpool's new-look front 3, which is meant to lead them to glory, couldn't even score against a makeshift Arsenal defence.
First competitive start together. Not worried.
Arsenal scoring at home once in 6 games? Must be worried especially against a team that shipped 6 goals to Stoke last season.
"...sure beats doin' stuff."
In the same way you can't call it based on one event, you can't judge a game and completely gloss over the biggest moment in it to suit your perspective.
Anyway, a draw it is in the end; no matter what bad calls lead up to it. We'll move on.
Not glossing over it at all. After the bad call, Liverpool could have easily ended up leading into halftime 3 - 0 up but for some brilliant Cech keeping and scrambling (in the best sense of the word) Arsenal defence. But it didn't.
A majority of the football media called the game Liverpool's way afterwards and that we were unlucky yet I'm tending towards the 50/50 as mentioned. I think both teams were lucky and unlucky. A 0 - 0 draw of that quality will always throw up discussion over 'who bossed it'. Both teams did, in different ways and for equal portions of the game.
A disallowed, legitimite goal is not the same as a great save to keep a player out. Sorry.
I agree that it was relatively even, but Arsenal fans have some justification to feel hard done by because of the outrageously poor reffing decision.
Honestly, I'm surprised it wasn't a high scoring affair with our 2 CB's out and Chambers having a wonky one.
It's not legitimate if it's disallowed. Simple as that. they can feel hard done by and they should do, like we did when a goal was scored via a beach ball, but it doesn't change the facts of the game that in the end, it was even Stevens. I think Arsenal fans are feeling a little touchy that they are struggling at home and clutching at straws. It's what fans do when they team in under performing, I'm well versed in that,
"...sure beats doin' stuff."
In the same way you can't call it based on one event, you can't judge a game and completely gloss over the biggest moment in it to suit your perspective.
Anyway, a draw it is in the end; no matter what bad calls lead up to it. We'll move on.
Not glossing over it at all. After the bad call, Liverpool could have easily ended up leading into halftime 3 - 0 up but for some brilliant Cech keeping and scrambling (in the best sense of the word) Arsenal defence. But it didn't.
A majority of the football media called the game Liverpool's way afterwards and that we were unlucky yet I'm tending towards the 50/50 as mentioned. I think both teams were lucky and unlucky. A 0 - 0 draw of that quality will always throw up discussion over 'who bossed it'. Both teams did, in different ways and for equal portions of the game.
A disallowed, legitimite goal is not the same as a great save to keep a player out. Sorry.
I agree that it was relatively even, but Arsenal fans have some justification to feel hard done by because of the outrageously poor reffing decision.
Honestly, I'm surprised it wasn't a high scoring affair with our 2 CB's out and Chambers having a wonky one.
It's not legitimate if it's disallowed. Simple as that. they can feel hard done by and they should do, like we did when a goal was scored via a beach ball, but it doesn't change the facts of the game that in the end, it was even Stevens. I think Arsenal fans are feeling a little touchy that they are struggling at home and clutching at straws. It's what fans do when they team in under performing, I'm well versed in that,
Erm... hate to break it to you but you are the one appearing rather touchy!
Hug?
In the same way you can't call it based on one event, you can't judge a game and completely gloss over the biggest moment in it to suit your perspective.
Anyway, a draw it is in the end; no matter what bad calls lead up to it. We'll move on.
Not glossing over it at all. After the bad call, Liverpool could have easily ended up leading into halftime 3 - 0 up but for some brilliant Cech keeping and scrambling (in the best sense of the word) Arsenal defence. But it didn't.
A majority of the football media called the game Liverpool's way afterwards and that we were unlucky yet I'm tending towards the 50/50 as mentioned. I think both teams were lucky and unlucky. A 0 - 0 draw of that quality will always throw up discussion over 'who bossed it'. Both teams did, in different ways and for equal portions of the game.
A disallowed, legitimite goal is not the same as a great save to keep a player out. Sorry.
I agree that it was relatively even, but Arsenal fans have some justification to feel hard done by because of the outrageously poor reffing decision.
Honestly, I'm surprised it wasn't a high scoring affair with our 2 CB's out and Chambers having a wonky one.
It's not legitimate if it's disallowed. Simple as that. they can feel hard done by and they should do, like we did when a goal was scored via a beach ball, but it doesn't change the facts of the game that in the end, it was even Stevens. I think Arsenal fans are feeling a little touchy that they are struggling at home and clutching at straws. It's what fans do when they team in under performing, I'm well versed in that,
Erm... hate to break it to you but you are the one appearing rather touchy!
Hug?
Not touchy...I'm baffled. Being a fan is one thing but it should have some knowledge of how the game is played.
As for you, the trolling is boring. At least the others offer some kind of reasoning rather than cheap digs intended to frustrate.
"...sure beats doin' stuff."
In the same way you can't call it based on one event, you can't judge a game and completely gloss over the biggest moment in it to suit your perspective.
Anyway, a draw it is in the end; no matter what bad calls lead up to it. We'll move on.
Not glossing over it at all. After the bad call, Liverpool could have easily ended up leading into halftime 3 - 0 up but for some brilliant Cech keeping and scrambling (in the best sense of the word) Arsenal defence. But it didn't.
A majority of the football media called the game Liverpool's way afterwards and that we were unlucky yet I'm tending towards the 50/50 as mentioned. I think both teams were lucky and unlucky. A 0 - 0 draw of that quality will always throw up discussion over 'who bossed it'. Both teams did, in different ways and for equal portions of the game.
A disallowed, legitimite goal is not the same as a great save to keep a player out. Sorry.
I agree that it was relatively even, but Arsenal fans have some justification to feel hard done by because of the outrageously poor reffing decision.
Honestly, I'm surprised it wasn't a high scoring affair with our 2 CB's out and Chambers having a wonky one.
It's not legitimate if it's disallowed. Simple as that. they can feel hard done by and they should do, like we did when a goal was scored via a beach ball, but it doesn't change the facts of the game that in the end, it was even Stevens. I think Arsenal fans are feeling a little touchy that they are struggling at home and clutching at straws. It's what fans do when they team in under performing, I'm well versed in that,
Erm... hate to break it to you but you are the one appearing rather touchy!
Hug?
Not touchy...I'm baffled. Being a fan is one thing but it should have some knowledge of how the game is played.
As for you, the trolling is boring. At least the others offer some kind of reasoning rather than cheap digs intended to frustrate.
As you have not been on this forum that long you would not have known that any criticism of Arsenal will bring one or two down on you like a ton of bricks, even if it is warranted.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
In the same way you can't call it based on one event, you can't judge a game and completely gloss over the biggest moment in it to suit your perspective.
Anyway, a draw it is in the end; no matter what bad calls lead up to it. We'll move on.
Not glossing over it at all. After the bad call, Liverpool could have easily ended up leading into halftime 3 - 0 up but for some brilliant Cech keeping and scrambling (in the best sense of the word) Arsenal defence. But it didn't.
A majority of the football media called the game Liverpool's way afterwards and that we were unlucky yet I'm tending towards the 50/50 as mentioned. I think both teams were lucky and unlucky. A 0 - 0 draw of that quality will always throw up discussion over 'who bossed it'. Both teams did, in different ways and for equal portions of the game.
A disallowed, legitimite goal is not the same as a great save to keep a player out. Sorry.
I agree that it was relatively even, but Arsenal fans have some justification to feel hard done by because of the outrageously poor reffing decision.
Honestly, I'm surprised it wasn't a high scoring affair with our 2 CB's out and Chambers having a wonky one.
It's not legitimate if it's disallowed. Simple as that. they can feel hard done by and they should do, like we did when a goal was scored via a beach ball, but it doesn't change the facts of the game that in the end, it was even Stevens. I think Arsenal fans are feeling a little touchy that they are struggling at home and clutching at straws. It's what fans do when they team in under performing, I'm well versed in that,
Erm... hate to break it to you but you are the one appearing rather touchy!
Hug?
Not touchy...I'm baffled. Being a fan is one thing but it should have some knowledge of how the game is played.
As for you, the trolling is boring. At least the others offer some kind of reasoning rather than cheap digs intended to frustrate.
As you have not been on this forum that long you would not have known that any criticism of Arsenal will bring one or two down on you like a ton of bricks, even if it is warranted.
It doesn't even need to be criticism it seems. It can also be a comment that both teams played well, missed chances and were both lucky and unlucky...an even game. Apparently that makes me a target for trolls (...or in this case, troll).
"...sure beats doin' stuff."
In the same way you can't call it based on one event, you can't judge a game and completely gloss over the biggest moment in it to suit your perspective.
Anyway, a draw it is in the end; no matter what bad calls lead up to it. We'll move on.
Not glossing over it at all. After the bad call, Liverpool could have easily ended up leading into halftime 3 - 0 up but for some brilliant Cech keeping and scrambling (in the best sense of the word) Arsenal defence. But it didn't.
A majority of the football media called the game Liverpool's way afterwards and that we were unlucky yet I'm tending towards the 50/50 as mentioned. I think both teams were lucky and unlucky. A 0 - 0 draw of that quality will always throw up discussion over 'who bossed it'. Both teams did, in different ways and for equal portions of the game.
A disallowed, legitimite goal is not the same as a great save to keep a player out. Sorry.
I agree that it was relatively even, but Arsenal fans have some justification to feel hard done by because of the outrageously poor reffing decision.
Honestly, I'm surprised it wasn't a high scoring affair with our 2 CB's out and Chambers having a wonky one.
It's not legitimate if it's disallowed. Simple as that. they can feel hard done by and they should do, like we did when a goal was scored via a beach ball, but it doesn't change the facts of the game that in the end, it was even Stevens. I think Arsenal fans are feeling a little touchy that they are struggling at home and clutching at straws. It's what fans do when they team in under performing, I'm well versed in that,
Erm... hate to break it to you but you are the one appearing rather touchy!
Hug?
Not touchy...I'm baffled. Being a fan is one thing but it should have some knowledge of how the game is played.
As for you, the trolling is boring. At least the others offer some kind of reasoning rather than cheap digs intended to frustrate.
This is going around in circles. I'm obviously going to be biased towards Arsenal, you're quite obviously biased towards Liverpool (despite never acknowledging it); so we'll leave it!
'Pool have been very lucky - despite some good play in patches - that their last 2 games have benefited from blind linesmen.
a.haak
In the same way you can't call it based on one event, you can't judge a game and completely gloss over the biggest moment in it to suit your perspective.
Anyway, a draw it is in the end; no matter what bad calls lead up to it. We'll move on.
Not glossing over it at all. After the bad call, Liverpool could have easily ended up leading into halftime 3 - 0 up but for some brilliant Cech keeping and scrambling (in the best sense of the word) Arsenal defence. But it didn't.
A majority of the football media called the game Liverpool's way afterwards and that we were unlucky yet I'm tending towards the 50/50 as mentioned. I think both teams were lucky and unlucky. A 0 - 0 draw of that quality will always throw up discussion over 'who bossed it'. Both teams did, in different ways and for equal portions of the game.
A disallowed, legitimite goal is not the same as a great save to keep a player out. Sorry.
I agree that it was relatively even, but Arsenal fans have some justification to feel hard done by because of the outrageously poor reffing decision.
Honestly, I'm surprised it wasn't a high scoring affair with our 2 CB's out and Chambers having a wonky one.
It's not legitimate if it's disallowed. Simple as that. they can feel hard done by and they should do, like we did when a goal was scored via a beach ball, but it doesn't change the facts of the game that in the end, it was even Stevens. I think Arsenal fans are feeling a little touchy that they are struggling at home and clutching at straws. It's what fans do when they team in under performing, I'm well versed in that,
Erm... hate to break it to you but you are the one appearing rather touchy!
Hug?
Not touchy...I'm baffled. Being a fan is one thing but it should have some knowledge of how the game is played.
As for you, the trolling is boring. At least the others offer some kind of reasoning rather than cheap digs intended to frustrate.
This is going around in circles. I'm obviously going to be biased towards Arsenal, you're quite obviously biased towards Liverpool (despite never acknowledging it); so we'll leave it!
'Pool have been very lucky - despite some good play in patches - that their last 2 games have benefited from blind linesmen.
I'm not denying I'm biased towards Liverpool - but I can always admit when another team were our equal or bested us - something lacking from many Arsenal fans (and fans of other teams, my own included.).
"...sure beats doin' stuff."
All of the above bollocks aside, I'm glad Lucas got a run and proved his worth. He'll be invaluable over a long season as he usually proves. Loving the fact we have two fullbacks who look like they can defend a bit, it's been a while. Really hope Sturridge can get over his pile of injuries and get on the field again because I think him and big Ben will be a real handful, especially with Coutinho feeding them some gold.
As for the game yesterday, I'm a bit disappointed we couldn't score in the first half with the makeshift CB pairing but did well to hold them out in the second when under the pump for long periods.
Best two calls were when the commentator said after the Arsenal disallowed goal "if these things even out over a season then Liverpool are in for some horrid nights" and then my gooner mate who I watched the game with, having moaned a fair bit about Liverpool sitting deep in the second half with "Quick! Break! They've thrown 3 guys forward!". Many lolz.
Based on the orange training bid theories, the starting XI again West Ham seems to point to:
Mings
Clyne Skrtel Lovren Moreno
Lucas
Can Milner
Firmino Coutinho
Ings
"...sure beats doin' stuff."
I can't see what the bickering is about, Leighbo as far as I can see has said that he thinks the game was pretty even over all, which I'd have to agree with. Liverpool could bloody well have come away with three points in that game, it doesn't matter if we had a legit goal disallowed or not. Like I said in the gooner thread, had Ramsey scored that goal, we could have gone on to pull their pants down and happy days. But perhaps also Liverpool could have attacked harder and turned those skid marks in Chambers pants in to something more serious.
I don't know if I was watching a different game or not, but I certainly think it was bloody even.
Interesting comments HW. You have not been on here that long to see the foul and abusive language I've had thrown at me from one or two Arsenal supporters over the last seven years, but I can handle it. They thought it was banter but I felt differently. I now don't even bother to reply as I really can't be bothered.
I agree with your comment about the game, pretty even considering everything.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
You have not been on here that long to see the foul and abusive language I've had thrown at me
Hypocrisy defined.
Show me the foul and abusive language? I'm talking the f & c words.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
So have we calmed down yet?
Haha no but £10m for Borini is quite fortunate. A bit of desperation at Sunderland I guess.
Striker fees are pretty inflated these days simply because there aren't many around.
I think you guys did the smart thing in paying Benteke's release clause and getting him in for pre-season. No faffing about, all sorted, player bedded in, and off you go.
As opposed to Arsenal, Spurs, ManU attempting to sign a striker in the final days... yikes
Striker fees are pretty inflated these days simply because there aren't many around.
I think you guys did the smart thing in paying Benteke's release clause and getting him in for pre-season. No faffing about, all sorted, player bedded in, and off you go.
As opposed to Arsenal, Spurs, ManU attempting to sign a striker in the final days... yikes
Benteke has a thigh strain...yay.
"...sure beats doin' stuff."
I think you guys did the smart thing in paying Benteke's release clause and getting him in for pre-season. No faffing about, all sorted, player bedded in, and off you go.
"...sure beats doin' stuff."
LFC Wellington (and to be fair, mostly KopGoff) have been working hard to bring Jamie Carragher to Wellington instead of Auckland.
Thanks to the campaign we have run to get people interested across the region, we can now confirm his visit to Wellington on Feb 23rd at the Embassy Theatre.
Tickets go on sale this week and I'll flick out more details as they come to us.
Look forward to seeing you there!
"...sure beats doin' stuff."
Impressive. Bet he can tell a few stories. Was a better player than given credit for and stayed a lot of years.
LFC Wellington (and to be fair, mostly KopGoff) have been working hard to bring Jamie Carragher to Wellington instead of Auckland.
Thanks to the campaign we have run to get people interested across the region, we can now confirm his visit to Wellington on Feb 23rd at the Embassy Theatre.
Tickets go on sale this week and I'll flick out more details as they come to us.
Look forward to seeing you there!
That's seriously so f**king cool. I really hope I can afford tickets when they go on sale.
LFC Wellington (and to be fair, mostly KopGoff) have been working hard to bring Jamie Carragher to Wellington instead of Auckland.
Thanks to the campaign we have run to get people interested across the region, we can now confirm his visit to Wellington on Feb 23rd at the Embassy Theatre.
Tickets go on sale this week and I'll flick out more details as they come to us.
Look forward to seeing you there!
That's seriously so f**king cool. I really hope I can afford tickets when they go on sale.
Pretty sure they go on sale this week and tickets are roughly $60 for general admission or $135 for admission and meet/greet.
"...sure beats doin' stuff."
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