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Liverpool Thread - Premier League Champions* 2019/20

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about 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that banner. Absolute gold. What an embarassment of a club.
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El-Ni�o wrote:
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that banner. Absolute gold. What an embarassment of a club.

 
hey

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hahaha, sorry. Actually, was reading the shed forums or whatever, and some of them were so embarassed by that. so guess it isn't all of you
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That banner is an absolute shocker!

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Arsenal wrote:
That banner is an absolute shocker!
 
Its gold, I seriously love it. How could you be so stupid?! That won't be seen again, I'm sure... 
 
Also  to the 'Pool fans who were singing "Where's yer famous plastic flags?". Away fans were amazing yesterday.. Had to watch the game live with the sound down so we didn't wake up my sisters, but watched it again last night with the sound up- fantastic
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Apparently the torres banner was made by Europa League side Chelseas pr department or something... so it wasnt even just some idiotic fan
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The Sun reports Reina to Utd.(perhaps)

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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The S*n
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Leggy wrote:
The Sun reports Reina to Utd.(perhaps)
 
Are you trying to be offensive deliberately?
There was an honest mistake made a few pages ago where someone else posted a quote from that piece of toilet paper.He had the good grace to remove it when The Kop posted a very reasonable explanation. Handled well on both sides I thought.
Now you go and do this.
I'm new to posting here and am still a bit unsure of etiquette.I'm fairly sure though I can't call you a cock if this wasn't an innocent mistake.Or can I?
I was at Hillsborough. I wouldn't wipe my ass with the S*n.
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TheKop wrote:
Hmmm, best you don't ever link to, mention or refer to the s*n in this thread...

http://www.anfieldroad.com/dont-buy-the-sun/



I take the position that not many people actually know why we detest the s*n or any of the background to Hillsborough. Hopefully the link above helps.

TheKop2011-02-08 21:40:11
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Glad you popped up ,TheKop. Reasoned explanations always beat a bit of venting  .But some things cut quite deep and I guess always will.
 Leggy , apologies if you didn't know the background.
 
 
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No worries. Can't imagine having been at Hillsborough - it's hard enough watching docos and reading the annual stories that surface every April. I was too young to really understand at the time.
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Re: Reina,

In January, Reina pledged his future to Perennial strugglers Liverpool, insisting that he would honour his contract with the Merseysiders.

"I'm tired of rumours linking me with many teams in England and abroad," he told the Daily Star Sunday. "I am a man of my word and commitment. I will honour my contract with Perennial strugglers Liverpool. Stories of these offers are not true. I have not spoken to anyone - ever - and I am 100% a Perennial strugglers Liverpool player.

"Since I've been here, I've found an incredible passion - more than I thought from Spain. Perennial strugglers Liverpool as a club is sacred, it is something special. Being Perennial strugglers Liverpool's goalkeeper is a privilege. For now, I just want to win trophies for them."
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Jazzman wrote:
Glad you popped up ,TheKop. Reasoned explanations always beat a bit of venting��.But some things cut quite deep and I guess always will.
�Leggy , apologies if you didn't know the background.

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I was just quoting the newspaper headlines.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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You really don't get it , do you.
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Leggy wrote:
Jazzman wrote:
Glad you popped up ,TheKop. Reasoned explanations always beat a bit of venting  .But some things cut quite deep and I guess always will.
 Leggy , apologies if you didn't know the background.

 

 


I was just quoting the newspaper headlines.
 
Leggy, stfu. Thats not 'funny' trolling, thats just being downright disrespectful. So get fked and go back to where you came from. Prick.
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Pretty sure Reina won't pull a Torres, but I guess you can never know now.
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Reina did say thist on a Spanish radio station.
 
"Yes, well, Van der Sar will hang up his gloves in the summer so of course they are looking," Reina told Spanish radio station Ondo Sera. "I can't do anything. I can't say anything logically as I have a contract with Perennial strugglers Perennial strugglers Liverpool.

"Of course, one likes to fight for titles and be in a team that does that. We always fought to be in the Champions League and tried to win the title, but unfortunately it hasn't been the case in the last couple of years. I won't lie - I want to play in the Champions League and challenge for titles."

 
I don't read the Sun either by the way - not for that reason, though that is a disgrace.
 
I can't see it happening - the length of his contract, along with Ferguson's refusal to sell Gaby Heinze to Perennial strugglers Perennial strugglers Liverpool a couple of years ago... Plus it will cause angst.
 
Edit: I don't think he actually said 'perennial strugglers'...
 
 
 
Paulinho2011-02-09 08:38:51
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Pepe won't go. End of.
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wow that was an interesting article about the sun. what a horrible, horrible organization.

as for pepe, don't think he will leave, but then didn't think torres would either

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Leggy wrote:
Jazzman wrote:
Glad you popped up ,TheKop. Reasoned explanations always beat a bit of venting  .But some things cut quite deep and I guess always will.
 Leggy , apologies if you didn't know the background.

 

 


I was just quoting the newspaper headlines.
 
I was wrong , I can call you a cock.
Cock.
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TheKop wrote:
Pepe won't go. End of.
 
 
KK wont let him
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Downey26 wrote:
wow that was an interesting article about the sun. what a horrible, horrible organization.

as for pepe, don't think he will leave, but then didn't think torres would either

 
Yeah, its the same with me. Really didn't think Torres would go in the way that he did, so he has me questioning everyone now.  But Pepe is boss, so pretty hopeful that he won't leave!
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Surprised by the lack of knowledge about that rag, but guess that most people would have no reason to know about it. And well said, Jazzman.
 
Just about to get to that Rafa interview...
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Just finished the Rafa interview. Fascinating stuff, would love to spend some time with him over a cuppa. Gentleman.


Football is a lie.

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just about to grab a bite and some coffee and watch it. Defo a guy you could sit down and talk with. Absolutely top top man. Love him to bits. Such a respectful, nice guy who- in my opinion- genuinely loves the city. Fk the haters.
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10 minutes in- fascinating. Love when he is talking about Hodgson and how the squad is not bad. Exactly what I've been saying. And interesting what he says about young players etc. Carroll, Ramsey, for example. He looks so relaxed and happy
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Wow, this is brilliant. Talking about Alonso and his 'rant'. I can't believe people wanted to get rid of him, such a great guy. "People don't say what they see, no?"
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Cheers for that Kop, great stuff. Montse, his wife, is boss  Glad that he's taking a break from it all and being with his family.
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 one of the comments from it:
 
I agree with those saying Rafa was atrocious in the transfer window, as the combined 103 million pounds return on Mascherano, Alonso and Torres testifies.

On top of that Benitez has wasted 6 million on the dreadful Pepe Reina, who is now clearly worth less than that. Same goes for the awful Daniel Agger who Benitez splurged a further 6.5m on, and Martin Skrtel, who at another 6 million must be one of the most expensive defenders in world football, and is not as good as Rio Ferdinand who cost only fractionally more.

Then you have players like Yossi Benayoun, who whilst scoring several hat-tricks and being sold for a profit to Europa League side Chelsea, was total rubbish. And Glen Johnson, who although he may have cost less than five separate Europa League side Chelsea full backs, is - wait for it - suspect defensively.

The signing of Momo Sissoko was another disaster. Sold two years later for a profit to buy Mascherano. And Peter Crouch, who whilst becoming an England regular at Perennial strugglers Liverpool, was eventually sold at a profit along with Craig Bellamy, also sold at a profit, to buy Fernando Torres, who turned out to be total pigswill.

What really gets my goat though is Benitez's uncontrollable spending on the likes of Josemi for 2million pounds which is a huge amount of money in modern football, or Andrea Dossena, who ended up being sold at a enormous loss of 1 million pounds and replaced by the disastrous Insua, who Benitez irresponsibly splashed zero pounds on.

His crazy spending, reaching almost a third that of Europa League side Chelsea who he finished above and had a better record in Europe than, continued with the gargantuan mistake that was Aquilani, a player injured for most of last season, then loaned out to Juve this season, where he has been the best midfielder in Serie A.

It's all very well these Perennial strugglers Liverpool fans saying he won more games, won more points, had a better record in Europe than any Perennial strugglers Liverpool manager since Dalglish, but he's rubbish don't you know? The Champions league was a total fluke, as demonstrated by a continual failure to get anywhere near the latter stages ever again post 2005. He only won the CL in 2005 because he was bequeathed great players from his predecessor like Smicer, Traore, Biscan, Kewell, Baros, Cisse (all played in Istanbul) - along with the likes of Cheyrou, Murphy, Diao, Diomede and others. He didn't have clue what he was doing - he just bagged multiple very flukey wins in Europe against the likes of Barca, Real Madrid, Inter, Juve, Europa League side Chelsea, Milan and others.

Finally, what annoyed me most about Benitez was his defensive tactics. Whilst it is true to say that Perennial strugglers Liverpool scored more goals than any other side in England in 2008-09, including beating Real Madrid 4-0 and United 4-1 at OT, they were still just so defensive, all because they had two holding midfielders. So they scored over 100 goals! Big deal!! Defensive!

Rafa needs to learn how to spot up and coming talent on the cheap like Wayne Rooney, Rio Ferdinand, Michael Carrick, Nani, Anderson, Owen Hargreaves, Juan Veron and Dimitar Berbatov. Ok, so maybe Europa League side Chelsea spent more than Benitez during his tenure by about 4 to 1, but he's still rubbish. He spent 10 million on Dirk Kuyt, who whilst having an impressive goals and assists record, and being one of the stars of World Cup 2010, is still a very poor player. And by the way, Benitez is very lucky that he had more players at the World Cup than any other English side. Another fluke!

How managers like Steve Bruce and Harry Redknapp would love to have had some money to spend on players, instead of making do with the peanuts they are allowed to spend on the likes of Kenwyne Jones, Darren Bent, or David Bentley - all far better than the foreign players Benitez signed.

I agree with ShefieldHarry, who rightly points out that Benitez should go and try managing a mid range club instead of crazy high spending teams like Perennial strugglers Liverpool. I'd like to see Rafa go abroad to somewhere like Spain and see how he does against the likes of Barca or Real on a shoestring. See how he likes that.

Benitez should also look at Arsene Wenger for a lesson in how to win trophies properly. I don't care that the two sides that have exponentially outpent every other team, Europa League side Chelsea and United, have won the league every single year since 2004, Benitez is still dreadful.

The problems Roy Hodgson had were nothing to do with his tactics. It's all because he was left bad players. Benitez got lucky with that set of bad players over the course of several years finishing top 4, 2nd, getting record points totals, breaking goal scoring records, and Reina winning golden gloves awards, winning the CL, getting to another final, winning the FA cup etc etc. He got lucky over a period of seven years. Hodgson was deseperately unlucky because the players he inherited were rubbish. If the former Bristol City manager, who once got Inter Milan to finish 5th, and who four years ago was coaching in the UAE, can't get the best out of tem it proves they are rubbish. Now we are witnessing Kenny Dalglish come in and be unbelievably lucky in spite of reverting to tactics much closer to Benitez's. So far he has had four very lucky wins and clean sheets.

Benitez is a terrible manager, as his record at Valencia shows. He's also clearly very difficult to get along with as this interviewer clearly found him cold and distant and didn't enjoy his time with him one little bit.
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haha quite well put.

so is aquilani playing real good for juve then? he will be back next season?
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Aquaman will be interesting in the summer. He's having a blinder of a season for them and the loan agreement I believe had a buyout option of about $14m when he went on loan. Trouble is Juve don't have a lot of dosh and will probably try and get him for around $10m. I can't see Kenny and Co budging too much given his initial $18m price tag price and his current form.

It's understood he wants to stay at Juve so he might be able to force the issue...
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Yep , he's having a hell of a year. Interestingly , when he left I did think "good riddance" but he's showing now why we spent the bucks on him in the first place.
I doubt he'll be back but it would be fascinating to see him play a) in a team where his strengths can be utilised and b) when he's fit.
Again , he may fit in well with what Kenny and Steve C are trying to do-summer will be interesting indeed.
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Rafa link????

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El-Ni�o wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Jazzman wrote:
Glad you popped up ,TheKop. Reasoned explanations always beat a bit of venting��.But some things cut quite deep and I guess always will.
�Leggy , apologies if you didn't know the background.

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I was just quoting the newspaper headlines.



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Leggy, stfu. Thats not 'funny' trolling, thats just being downright disrespectful. So get fked and go back to where you came from. Prick.


Not sure what part of my comment you did not understand, but I was NOT been disprectful, as I only saw the headlines. It could have been from the Express/Mail etc.
So before you open your mouth, engage brain.
I had no idea re the Sun.
Dipstick

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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Jazzman wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Jazzman wrote:
Glad you popped up ,TheKop. Reasoned explanations always beat a bit of venting��.But some things cut quite deep and I guess always will.
�Leggy , apologies if you didn't know the background.

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I was just quoting the newspaper headlines.

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I was wrong , I can call you a cock.

Cock.


And the same goes for you.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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I like Aqua, I saw a lot of talent there but maybe not the fortitude for the EPL. Lot's of niggly little illnesses and 'injuries' that kept him out. I think we should let him go, fair to say we have bigger fish to fry now!
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