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Anthony Hudson (FAT Technical Director | Thailand)

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15 Oct 23:33

pierre wrote:

The squad has hardly changed recently. There have been one or two players coming and go in the last year 18 months but the bulk of it is the same. Hudson built depth where we needed it. Agree about Ingham playing in these bigger games but its good to have depth there. A few years ago we had no cover for our wing backs. We now have a plethora. Same goes for centre backs and DM. Quality isn't great but we have options. 

You would be mad as a national team coach not to test players in your squad.

I think we have more players who have international experience, I'm not sure that's the same as having "depth" 

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17 Oct 00:07 · edited 17 Oct 00:07 · History

james dean wrote:

pierre wrote:

The squad has hardly changed recently. There have been one or two players coming and go in the last year 18 months but the bulk of it is the same. Hudson built depth where we needed it. Agree about Ingham playing in these bigger games but its good to have depth there. A few years ago we had no cover for our wing backs. We now have a plethora. Same goes for centre backs and DM. Quality isn't great but we have options. 

You would be mad as a national team coach not to test players in your squad.

I think we have more players who have international experience, I'm not sure that's the same as having "depth" 

Ha - was just about to say that very thing, depth implies that we have people able to push incumbents or take their place through injury or lack of form and perform capably.

You just know Ingham is going to start at RB v Peru despite looking hopelessly exposed in the game's he played.


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17 Oct 00:37

Genuinely think Roux is higher ranked and I think Anthony know that too. Maybe im hopeful.

23 Oct 10:56 · edited 23 Oct 12:58 · History

I still want Hudson to bite the bullet and do a Ricki and play our best fit XI.  This means 3 CBs (Smith, Reid, Boxall) plus Roux.  Smeltz, Ingham and Colvey only in the greater squad, and Dyer left out altogether.

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24 Oct 00:17

Dougie Rydal wrote:

You just know Ingham is going to start at RB v Peru despite looking hopelessly exposed in the game's he played.

Yes, you are probably right. Ingham is a great athlete and will probably be a good player one day. But at the moment he is far, far from being an international defensive player. He has been terribly defensively exposed in all his international games this season. If Hudson picks him then Peru will hammer his side of the field. They have very very good wingers. Roux should start if fit. Second choice for me would be Boxall......he is a solid defensive player and has lots of experiance at RB. If Boxall played there then you prob would need a back three of Ried, Smith, Themi 

24 Oct 00:26

If Wood is out who comes in? Will Hudson start Smeltz (!), Patterson (!!) or even a recall for Fallon? (!!!)

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24 Oct 00:30

NOOOO!!    no!,no!!,no!!!

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24 Oct 00:46

Bevan? Brockie? Bright? Boyd?

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24 Oct 00:46

Watson? Vincent?

You know we belong together...

24 Oct 01:06

Hugh? Pugh? Barney? McGrew? Cuthbert? Dibble? Grub!

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24 Oct 01:12

Check?


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24 Oct 01:27

Clapham?

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24 Oct 01:40

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24 Oct 01:54

Hudson will make the right call if Winston, Wood and Hudson are ruled out.

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24 Oct 02:38

When will the squad be announced?

24 Oct 03:03

If Wood is injured I'd take Brockie, that man is on fire! But knowing Hudson he will take Moses Dyer or Alex Rufer. >_<

27 Oct 10:05

Balbi wrote:

Hudson will make the right call if Winston, Wood and Hudson are ruled out.

In their prime, all three would be starters against Peru.

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27 Oct 23:29

or if his appointment is contingent on New Zealand missing out on the World Cup.

...........tick.

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27 Oct 23:37

2ndBest wrote:

http://www.goal.com/en-za/news/sources-rapids-clos...

The Colorado Rapids are closing in on hiring current New Zealand coach Anthony Hudson as their new manager, sources have confirm to Goal

Isn't it like the fourth time some team is about to hire Hudson according to a 'source'? 

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28 Oct 04:51

If true, Hudson really is a piece of merda* who has no faith in or intention to take this team all the way, he was just burnishing his CV to get a real job all the time, as many argued.

* swearing in Catalan today in honour of their independence


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28 Oct 23:44

Doloras wrote:

If true, Hudson really is a piece of merda* who has no faith in or intention to take this team all the way, he was just burnishing his CV to get a real job all the time, as many argued.

* swearing in Catalan today in honour of their independence

Plus 1 on the Catalonia independence vibe......Still have memories of seeing a fascist pro Franco rally in Madrid last year. Scary stuff.

According to our supreme commander(Martin), quoted in todays Sunday paper on Hudson.."we hope to retain him, we get on really well...he's doing a great job"   hmmmmm!!!!

If Hudson gets us to Russia then, yes, he gets a pass mark and probably deserves to be retained. If not then he gets sacked IMO.

His record as coach is not that flash. only one win against non PI sides since he started. How many coaches get reappointed with a 6% win record. If we dont make Russia then its already been confirmed that NZF will need to tighten its budget. Hard to see Hudson wanting to stay if there are few AW matches scheduled.

Plus we all know Hudson is unashamedly using the AW job as a trampoline to better and bigger things. The MLS rumours are hot. The crap display in the Con Cup against Russia probably put the skids under him getting a worthwhile gig in the UK. Worse than pub football was the quote I saw in the UK press.

29 Oct 01:47

austin11 wrote:

Doloras wrote:

If true, Hudson really is a piece of merda* who has no faith in or intention to take this team all the way, he was just burnishing his CV to get a real job all the time, as many argued.

* swearing in Catalan today in honour of their independence

Plus 1 on the Catalonia independence vibe......Still have memories of seeing a fascist pro Franco rally in Madrid last year. Scary stuff.

According to our supreme commander(Martin), quoted in todays Sunday paper on Hudson.."we hope to retain him, we get on really well...he's doing a great job"   hmmmmm!!!!

If Hudson gets us to Russia then, yes, he gets a pass mark and probably deserves to be retained. If not then he gets sacked IMO.

His record as coach is not that flash. only one win against non PI sides since he started. How many coaches get reappointed with a 6% win record. If we dont make Russia then its already been confirmed that NZF will need to tighten its budget. Hard to see Hudson wanting to stay if there are few AW matches scheduled.

Plus we all know Hudson is unashamedly using the AW job as a trampoline to better and bigger things. The MLS rumours are hot. The crap display in the Con Cup against Russia probably put the skids under him getting a worthwhile gig in the UK. Worse than pub football was the quote I saw in the UK press.

Is there anyone locally who could step in and do a decent job as AW coach? Maybe couple the job with some kind of development role if we don't get to the WC and the AW's only have a light international schedule in the next year or so. 

29 Oct 04:57

scribbler wrote:

austin11 wrote:

Doloras wrote:

If true, Hudson really is a piece of merda* who has no faith in or intention to take this team all the way, he was just burnishing his CV to get a real job all the time, as many argued.

* swearing in Catalan today in honour of their independence

Plus 1 on the Catalonia independence vibe......Still have memories of seeing a fascist pro Franco rally in Madrid last year. Scary stuff.

According to our supreme commander(Martin), quoted in todays Sunday paper on Hudson.."we hope to retain him, we get on really well...he's doing a great job"   hmmmmm!!!!

If Hudson gets us to Russia then, yes, he gets a pass mark and probably deserves to be retained. If not then he gets sacked IMO.

His record as coach is not that flash. only one win against non PI sides since he started. How many coaches get reappointed with a 6% win record. If we dont make Russia then its already been confirmed that NZF will need to tighten its budget. Hard to see Hudson wanting to stay if there are few AW matches scheduled.

Plus we all know Hudson is unashamedly using the AW job as a trampoline to better and bigger things. The MLS rumours are hot. The crap display in the Con Cup against Russia probably put the skids under him getting a worthwhile gig in the UK. Worse than pub football was the quote I saw in the UK press.

Is there anyone locally who could step in and do a decent job as AW coach? Maybe couple the job with some kind of development role if we don't get to the WC and the AW's only have a light international schedule in the next year or so. 

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29 Oct 07:56

austin11 wrote:

Doloras wrote:

If true, Hudson really is a piece of merda* who has no faith in or intention to take this team all the way, he was just burnishing his CV to get a real job all the time, as many argued.

* swearing in Catalan today in honour of their independence

Plus 1 on the Catalonia independence vibe......Still have memories of seeing a fascist pro Franco rally in Madrid last year. Scary stuff.

According to our supreme commander(Martin), quoted in todays Sunday paper on Hudson.."we hope to retain him, we get on really well...he's doing a great job"   hmmmmm!!!!

If Hudson gets us to Russia then, yes, he gets a pass mark and probably deserves to be retained. If not then he gets sacked IMO.

His record as coach is not that flash. only one win against non PI sides since he started. How many coaches get reappointed with a 6% win record. If we dont make Russia then its already been confirmed that NZF will need to tighten its budget. Hard to see Hudson wanting to stay if there are few AW matches scheduled.

Plus we all know Hudson is unashamedly using the AW job as a trampoline to better and bigger things. The MLS rumours are hot. The crap display in the Con Cup against Russia probably put the skids under him getting a worthwhile gig in the UK. Worse than pub football was the quote I saw in the UK press.

Re the Catalonia question. Very few countries would recognise  them. and no one in the EU would recognise them. They will not be able to do anything and legally  they will remain part of Spain.

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29 Oct 12:46

scribbler wrote:

austin11 wrote:

Doloras wrote:

If true, Hudson really is a piece of merda* who has no faith in or intention to take this team all the way, he was just burnishing his CV to get a real job all the time, as many argued.

* swearing in Catalan today in honour of their independence

Plus 1 on the Catalonia independence vibe......Still have memories of seeing a fascist pro Franco rally in Madrid last year. Scary stuff.

According to our supreme commander(Martin), quoted in todays Sunday paper on Hudson.."we hope to retain him, we get on really well...he's doing a great job"   hmmmmm!!!!

If Hudson gets us to Russia then, yes, he gets a pass mark and probably deserves to be retained. If not then he gets sacked IMO.

His record as coach is not that flash. only one win against non PI sides since he started. How many coaches get reappointed with a 6% win record. If we dont make Russia then its already been confirmed that NZF will need to tighten its budget. Hard to see Hudson wanting to stay if there are few AW matches scheduled.

Plus we all know Hudson is unashamedly using the AW job as a trampoline to better and bigger things. The MLS rumours are hot. The crap display in the Con Cup against Russia probably put the skids under him getting a worthwhile gig in the UK. Worse than pub football was the quote I saw in the UK press.

Is there anyone locally who could step in and do a decent job as AW coach? Maybe couple the job with some kind of development role if we don't get to the WC and the AW's only have a light international schedule in the next year or so. 

Andreas Heraf. Director for NZ Football, decent acumen for a manager having done the job in the Austrian Bundesliga and for Austrian youth sides (then again, we appointed Hudson, so it doesn’t really seem to matter). Also has a great record as a player if you’re into that kind of thing - on the losing side of a Cup Winner’s Cup final vs PSG, won the Austrian league a handful of times with Rapid Vienna, and got a bunch of Austria caps. Certainly looks promising...

Also this one isn’t really ‘local’ but Peter Taylor’s Anthony’s assistant rn, would be pretty cool to have a former England manager take us on. But then again if he has anything to do with how horrible we are on the pitch then it’s probably best to leave him the fudge alone 

29 Oct 19:12

mrsmiis wrote:

Also this one isn’t really ‘local’ but Peter Taylor’s Anthony’s assistant rn, would be pretty cool to have a former England manager take us on. But then again if he has anything to do with how horrible we are on the pitch then it’s probably best to leave him the fudge alone 

No it wouldn't - he took England for 1 game! and his record elsewhere isn't great Gillingham, Leicester, Brighton, Stevenage, Wycombe, Bahrain.... 

anyway he'd probably end up as an assistant at some US team, like say the Colorado Rapids

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29 Oct 22:54

mrsmiis wrote:

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Is there anyone locally who could step in and do a decent job as AW coach? Maybe couple the job with some kind of development role if we don't get to the WC and the AW's only have a light international schedule in the next year or so. 

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Andreas Heraf. Director for NZ Football, decent acumen for a manager having done the job in the Austrian Bundesliga and for Austrian youth sides (then again, we appointed Hudson, so it doesn’t really seem to matter). Also has a great record as a player if you’re into that kind of thing - on the losing side of a Cup Winner’s Cup final vs PSG, won the Austrian league a handful of times with Rapid Vienna, and got a bunch of Austria caps. Certainly looks promising...

Also this one isn’t really ‘local’ but Peter Taylor’s Anthony’s assistant rn, would be pretty cool to have a former England manager take us on. But then again if he has anything to do with how horrible we are on the pitch then it’s probably best to leave him the fudge alone 

Andreas Heraf would be an interesting choice. Experianced and technically very good......at least he has done something in football, unlike the present guy. 

Trouble is no WC qualification = no extra money = no AW games = little motivation for anyone to take up the job

29 Oct 23:26

mrsmiis wrote:

Also this one isn’t really ‘local’ but Peter Taylor’s Anthony’s assistant rn, would be pretty cool to have a former England manager take us on. But then again if he has anything to do with how horrible we are on the pitch then it’s probably best to leave him the fudge alone 

No it wouldn't - he took England for 1 game! and his record elsewhere isn't great Gillingham, Leicester, Brighton, Stevenage, Wycombe, Bahrain.... 

anyway he'd probably end up as an assistant at some US team, like say the Colorado Rapids

continuity...

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29 Oct 23:42

Leggy wrote:

austin11 wrote:

[quote=Doloras]

If true, Hudson really is a piece of merda* who has no faith in or intention to take this team all the way, he was just burnishing his CV to get a real job all the time, as many argued.

* swearing in Catalan today in honour of their independence

Re the Catalonia question. Very few countries would recognise  them. and no one in the EU would recognise them. They will not be able to do anything and legally  they will remain part of Spain.

Completely off subject but if Catalonia goes independent then the Spainish FA has said that Catalan clubs won't be able to play in La ligua. So no more Barca vs Real Classicos

Big rumours going around France football at the moment that a France/Catalan league might be formed similar to the MLS where Canadian and USA teams play in the same competition. The three La Ligua Catalan clubs would fold into Ligue 1

So the new Classico would be Barcelona vs PSG. I guess the other Catalan clubs currently in Div 1 Spain, Espanyola and Girona could also play in the new league. Still lots to happen before we get to this stage

30 Oct 00:16 · edited 30 Oct 00:18 · History

NZ Herald wrote:

Martin, who headhunted Hudson from Bahrain, hinted that he wants Hudson to continue for another term.

You're kidding me. You're absolutely kidding me. He would want to keep Anfony on even after Peru dicks us. D:

(P.S. We should take the European geopolitics thread elsewhere, but it took 9 years for Belgium's independence from the Netherlands to be recognized, and 6 years for Ireland's independence from the UK to be recognized.)


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30 Oct 00:28

Doloras wrote:

NZ Herald wrote:

Martin, who headhunted Hudson from Bahrain, hinted that he wants Hudson to continue for another term.

You're kidding me. You're absolutely kidding me. He would want to keep Anfony on even after Peru dicks us. D:

(P.S. We should take the European geopolitics thread elsewhere, but it took 9 years for Belgium's independence from the Netherlands to be recognized, and 6 years for Ireland's independence from the UK to be recognized.)

It'll be irrelevant what Andy Martin wants, because, you know, he won't be the man making the choice anymore.

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30 Oct 06:32

I didn't know that. Where is Andy meant to be going?


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30 Oct 06:52

I didn't know that. Where is Andy meant to be going?

Sacked along with Hudson after we bomb out (I hope)

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30 Oct 07:59

I’m not sure that having played a variety of players at wing back means we have depth there. Depth is defined by the quality of those playing not how often they’ve played. I still think Roux is the only wing back with any pedigree. Wynne is solid but doesn’t offer anything going forward so is more of f a left back in a 4-4-2. 

pierre wrote:

The squad has hardly changed recently. There have been one or two players coming and go in the last year 18 months but the bulk of it is the same. Hudson built depth where we needed it. Agree about Ingham playing in these bigger games but its good to have depth there. A few years ago we had no cover for our wing backs. We now have a plethora. Same goes for centre backs and DM. Quality isn't great but we have options. 

You would be mad as a national team coach not to test players in your squad.

30 Oct 08:06

is there a link to the Geordie full interview? 

30 Oct 08:11

Here is the relevant section re: his future.

AH: In the last couple of months I’ve had a few teams speak to representatives of mine, agents.

AG: Are the Colorado Rapids one of them?

AH: I’m not going to talk about who, what, which clubs, but what I have done is I’ve spoken to my CEO about all of those and what I’ve told him is I don’t want to deal with anything until after these two games.

Then, re: staying on as All Whites coach

AH: We’ve had conversations and they’ve been positive conversations, yes. 

30 Oct 19:56

That would be just our luck.  They finally fudge Martin off and as his last gesture he re-signs the fraud.

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30 Oct 19:58 · edited 30 Oct 20:17 · History

Secret Diary of Anthony Hudson, Vol 2


Monday:


Well, after three vibrant years at the helm of the All Whites I can truly reflect upon having turned a team around – if you ignore a lot of the rubbish we played at the Confederations Cup – and built depth, confidence, and a sort of weird feudal uncertainty in the national squad.

But most of all I have transformed the careers of a new generation.

I’ve improved the team trainings, the environment, and equipped a number of young players to walk in the fullness of their own purpose. Almost single-handedly I’ve created a culture of encouragement and empowerment where players can thrive and grow, while I can reflect on these most intangible of successes with my Fleet St contacts.

In short, I’ve been transformational, and inspiring in incredibly difficult circumstances, overcoming player eligibility issues, dearth of matches and frustratingly less talented assistants.

But now, approaching the final hurdle of the Peru playoffs I must catalyse my All Whites squad for the fiercest inquisition and also look destiny in the eye in terms of my own future professional career.

Funnily enough, that's reminded me of how I’ve always wanted to live in Denver.

Did you know it’s the United States’’ most landlocked city, 865 miles from the Pacific, 870 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. And I’ve always liked it dry.

Tuesday:

Well, what a nice surprise to find Colorado Rapids are tapping me up, big-time, though I’ve got mixed feelings about it.

On the one hand I was tickled to read that I established myself as the job favourite when I won over the technical staff in Colorado with my philosophies. It’s exactly the same whiteboard schtick I did for New Zeeland Football three years ago. Hey, hey, it shows I’ve still got it.

One the other hand, it’s not exactly Chelsea, is it? Indeed, it’s a shame I’m not been talked up more in the UK. But that’s more down to the team’s shark showing in Russia than anything I’ve done wrong, though I must do a few more Fleet St interviews ahead of the playoffs, drop a few names here and there, Peter Taylor etc.

But the very first thing I did today was change my Wikipedia page back to make it very clear I was born in Seattle. Just in case. It seems like a lifetime ago that we were having internecine debates on-line about my place of birth when it was always beyond question. Can’t believe people were putting it about that I was born in London.

Yes, some people still go on about my Wikipedia page and the 10-changes-a-day thing. But they don’t realise that in football your wiki is in fact your public CV. And who doesn’t polish their CV when find they are in the market for a new job?

Wednesday:

The Peru match programme was due to go to bed today. It will be a collector’s item. I spoke to Andy, suggesting the cover splash should be “Anthony Hudson Souvenir Edition” with a shot of me doing a whiteboard session. Maybe with sidebar profiles on Dane Ingham and Moses Dyer on why they’re forever grateful for their All Whites call-ups. And perhaps a deeper Rory Fallon feature entitled: “There’s only two masters I worship”.

Meanwhile I have to make a decision on the captaincy. Winston or Woodsy? Winston is the incumbent’s incumbent. But we’ve seen so little of him during my reign. And he’s a bit fick isn’t he?. Can you imagine him doing a press conference without me should we get a spanking, and it’s not just for tame Kiwi media?

On the other hand, until last week Woodsy hadn’t put a hamstring wrong as skipper.

Sure, he’s not the brightest either – what do you expect when you leave school at 16 - but at least he’s got this “Teacher’s Pet” relationship with me, as Michael Boxall called it last year, which is quite endearing.

However maybe I best stick with Winston. The last thing we would want is for acrimony in the camp and for a black man to “take a knee” before kick-off.

Thursday:

Memo to self. Have to stop calling Chris “Woodsy”. It only confuses Kiwi television commentators who still think his surname is actually Woods. Besides, I see Sean Dyche calls him Woody, with no S. Sean and myself are both premier league-grade managers, so should be heard to speak with one voice.

Meanwhile I see the media have been getting prickly because I haven’t named the All Whites squad yet. Ha. If they get under my skin, I’ll get under there’s. That will teach them to be more professional like me.

Friday:

This Colorado Rapids gig is starting to prove tricky, with increasing media scrutiny.

Andy Martin suggested this great line, that “we don’t comment on speculation”. Said he’d read it was an old chestnut Chris Turner used to fall back on when he was Football Kingz boss,.

I said, “But that’s complete bollocks, Andy, I comment on speculation all the time, whether it’s Chris Wood’s hamstring or Winston Reid’s groin.”

Still, Andy has been very understanding about the Colorado job offer. Indeed, so much so I’ve christened him “UnderstAndy around the office.

Andy knows the drill, because he will of course be playing the same game himself very soon. It won’t be long before you see the stories linking him with the New Zealand Rugby Union.

I like Andy. Sure, he’s not a football man, and says some dopey things. But at least he doesn’t question, doesn’t stick his beak in. You tell him what the party line is and he sticks with it. He knows how to take instruction from a coach, and I respect that in a chief executive.

Andy’s even counter-offered me an age-group gig for New Zealand Football. But I’m a highly respected senior international coach with an image to protect. And there’s always a touch of pathos in seeing Neil Emblen mucking in at Western Springs or Ricki Herbert slumming it at Hamilton Wanderers.

Saturday:

The big games draw closer, raising more big questions.

How will history remember me? How will I frame my All White legacy on Wikipedia? Should I dispense with the Moses Dyer gag, or milk it one more time just to annoy the likes of Dale Warburton and Patrick Barnes.

Which reminds me, that bloody Barnes. I dobbed him in to Andy after I saw him at the Solomon’s match at Albany. But apparently I’d confused him with Wombat, the Auckland City fan who looks like “The Dude” from The Big Lebowski. Frustrating how nearly everyone in New Zealand seems to have scruffy facial hair and glasses.

Sunday:

Got to thinking again today, how I’ve always had a soft spot for Colorado. 

And John Denver’s Rocky Mountain High - that could have been a song written just for me…

He was born in the summer of his 27th year

Coming home to a place he'd never been before

He left yesterday behind him, you might say he was born again

You might say he found a key for every door

When he first came to the mountains his life was far away

On the road and hanging by a song

But the string's already broken and he doesn't really care

It keeps changing fast and it don't last for long

But the Colorado rocky mountain high

I've seen it rainin' fire in the sky

The shadow from the starlight is softer than a lullabye…

Rocky mountain high (Colorado)

He climbed cathedral mountains, he saw silver clouds below

He saw everything as far as you can see

And they say that he got crazy once and he tried to touch the sun

And he lost a friend but kept his memory

Now…

I’ll work it into a whiteboard session.

Meanwhile I spent four hours today studying Americanese football terminology.

I could easily drop the affected cockney accent and go full JP Delecamera if I wanted.

I practised in front of the mirror: “Sure, Colorado might not be the most winningest team in the Western Conference, but the other week I saw them goal a score straight into the upper 90 from inside the six following an apex restart, while it was a shut-out at the other end.”

Yes, I think I could get my cleats into that.

30 Oct 21:20

From yesterday