General Football Discussion

Vuvuzelas - one stop shop for whining.

365 replies · 43,571 views
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
At the end of the day, there's nothing that can be done about them, hopefully there will be less at the smaller games. It's their cup, but the whole world has waited four years for this - we've waited 28 years! I think it is fair that people are disappointed that they drown out the chants and music, and like someone said, Africa has great music people could dance to and get into. They're annoying, but I'm just going to put up with them, even though I've got a splitting headache after just two games!

Let's hope the football is remembered for some great football, some stunning upsets, and a deserving champion - not plastic horns and a dodgy ball!
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
But chants and music isnt a part of their football atmosphere. Vuvuzelas are. Its a south african WC,not a european one.
 
Its just something we are not used to i guess. Hopefully itll get less annoying with time  though i dont tend to remember it getting any less annoying during the confed cup.

Allegedly

Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
What I don't get is that its a constant noise and never lets up. Even when a goal is scored or theres a shot that hits the post or something. Normal fans would stop and gasp or cheer but they still keep blowing these horns which makes you wonder if they really care about the game or are actually watching it.
 
Think of when we're in the middle of a chant at Phoenix games and something exciting happens, the chant suddenly stops.
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i just want the tv media to turn up the feed from the commentator(s) so i can hear the commentary without that appalling racket

that should not be impossible, surely ???
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
What I don't get is that its a constant noise and never lets up. Even when a goal is scored or theres a shot that hits the post or something. Normal fans would stop and gasp or cheer but they still keep blowing these horns which makes you wonder if they really care about the game or are actually watching it.
 
Think of when we're in the middle of a chant at Phoenix games and something exciting happens, the chant suddenly stops.


This. When Bafana scored this morning the crowd noise barely changed. I think it may have gone down a tad though when Mexico equalised.
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
What do South Americans do? Thinking ahead for a moment to Boca.

Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tegal wrote:
But chants and music isnt a part of their football atmosphere. Vuvuzelas are.


Well in that case, part of my hate for the Vuvuzela has shifted to those who decided to give South Africa the cup in the first place.
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
joachim wrote:
Tegal wrote:
But chants and music isnt a part of their football atmosphere. Vuvuzelas are.


Well in that case, part of my hate for the Vuvuzela has shifted to those who decided to give South Africa the cup in the first place.



Charlie Dempsey knew what you're saying!
Footpaul2010-06-12 20:40:51
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
joachim wrote:
Tegal wrote:
But chants and music isnt a part of their football atmosphere. Vuvuzelas are.


Well in that case, part of my hate for the Vuvuzela has shifted to those who decided to give South Africa the cup in the first place.
 Good call. Think ill join you in that hate. Probably would have gone if it wasnt in SA too.

Allegedly

Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i actually think slowly i getting used to these vuvuzelas... hopefully by the final i wont even recognize them

Calling all fans in Japan, come down and support the mighty nix in Osaka

http://www.facebook.com/WellingtonPhoenixClubMembersSupportersGroupOsaka

Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
detoxin wrote:
i actually think slowly i getting used to these vuvuzelas... hopefully by the final i wont even recognize them


Same. I've got a bit of a headache, but I think it might be sleep deprivation. I think it sucks that the Korean drummers and chants were drowned out - I really like their fans from previous World Cups and the U17 girls World Cup here a few years back. Part of the appeal of the World Cup is the chants and instruments of the participating countries, not just the host, but these horns cancel almost all of that out.

I saw on the tele some South Africans singing songs in the streets. What a shame we can't hear 80,000 sing those songs at the games.
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
They sung at the 1995 oval ball cup didn't they? I don't recall V's there? Are they a new annoyance?

Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ahmad wrote:
They sung at the 1995 oval ball cup didn't they? I don't recall V's there? Are they a new annoyance?


I think much like in New Zealand where Rugby fans sit and clap, whereas us Football fans stand, sing and shout. In South Africa the Vuvuzela is a Football culture related annoyance as you don't hear them in the Super 14 or South African test matches.
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
joachim wrote:
ahmad wrote:
They sung at the 1995 oval ball cup didn't they? I don't recall V's there? Are they a new annoyance?


I think much like in New Zealand where Rugby fans sit and clap, whereas us Football fans stand, sing and shout. In South Africa the Vuvuzela is a Football culture related annoyance as you don't hear them in the Super 14 or South African test matches.


Apart from the Bulls semi and final, which were played in Soweto. Another reason I didn't watch!
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Footpaul wrote:

joachim wrote:
ahmad wrote:
They sung at the 1995 oval ball cup didn't they? I don't recall V's there? Are they a new annoyance?


I think much like in New Zealand where Rugby fans sit and clap, whereas us Football fans stand, sing and shout. In South Africa the Vuvuzela is a Football culture related annoyance as you don't hear them in the Super 14 or South African test matches.
Apart from the Bulls semi and final, which were played in Soweto. Another reason I didn't watch!


Ah, I stand corrected. I didn't watch either of those games due to a simple lack of interest. Come to think of it, it has been a while since I've watched a Super 14 game played in SA
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
surely they will eventually tire out. It must take a lot of effort.

I do recall a moment during eng v usa when i heard singing and NO vuvuzelas! It was fantastic.
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It seems in nearly every football blog and news report, people hate these things. Its quite sad, it would of been amazing to listen to all the chants and singing and cheering, but that is not going to happen, no point in all the all whites supporters, chanting at the game, because they wont be heard, perhaps they can start a chant of "If you blow a Vuvuzela you are  "%^*#"
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
brettdale wrote:
perhaps they can start a chant of "If you blow a Vuvuzela you are  "%^*#


Yeah, that'll go down well

Three for me, and two for them.

Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Buffon II wrote:
brettdale wrote:
perhaps they can start a chant of "If you blow a Vuvuzela you are  "%^*#


Yeah, that'll go down well
 
That's what she said.
brettdale2010-06-13 15:52:19
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Buffon II wrote:
brettdale wrote:
perhaps they can start a chant of "If you blow a Vuvuzela you are  "%^*#


Yeah, that'll go down well


It depends on what "%^*# stands for!
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
<!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.Msonormal, li.Msonormal, div.Msonormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} @page Section1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; mso-er-margin:35.4pt; mso-footer-margin:35.4pt; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} <![endif]-->

Goodness.. All this angst (and more sadly Hate) around these vuvezelas Surely the one of the points  of  having different continents host the WORLD Cup is to show that it is the one true global game, and as such each host will do things differently according to their own culture. And we should respect that.

 

To say that just because it's our and the European way to sing and chant at Football chants, doesn't mean the everyone has to do it. There are a couple of things linked with our (well mainly European) football culture that shouldn�t be part of it e.g. racism/peripheral violence.  And from what I have seen so far the Vuvuzela-blowers are having a blast (so to speak) � who cares if they are not watching the game � they paid their money, so can do what they want, and overall they are contributing to a great party-like atmosphere. Much like Brazilian Congo bands and Mexicans waving.

 

After 4 games, I am getting used to it. Even turned on the highlights this lunchtime, heard that sound, and had that  contented �ahh, the World Cup� feeling.

 

Maybe Sony should look at doing a black and yellow number for next season.

C.T.2010-06-13 16:28:32
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Best post in this thread so fair.

Three for me, and two for them.

Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
C.T. wrote:
Maybe Sony should look at doing a black and yellow number
for next season.



No, no, no, a million cries of NO!

As much as I hate the Vuvuzela (and I do hate them beyond belief) I can see you point of view on everything apart from the above.
As this disease is not part of our Football culture, it can stay in Africa. Life ban for anyone who blows one in the Fever Zone would not be punishment enough imo.
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Absolutely.

The idiots responsible for them at Knights games got dragged over the coals by the FFA due to the volume of complaints from all over Aus.

How's my driving? - Whine here

Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
C.T. wrote:
<!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.Msonormal, li.Msonormal, div.Msonormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} @page Section1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; mso-er-margin:35.4pt; mso-footer-margin:35.4pt; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} -->

Goodness.. All this angst (and more sadly Hate) around these vuvezelas Surely the one of the points  of  having different continents host the WORLD Cup is to show that it is the one true global game, and as such each host will do things differently according to their own culture. And we should respect that.

 

To say that just because it's our and the European way to sing and chant at Football chants, doesn't mean the everyone has to do it. There are a couple of things linked with our (well mainly European) football culture that shouldn�t be part of it e.g. racism/peripheral violence.  And from what I have seen so far the Vuvuzela-blowers are having a blast (so to speak) � who cares if they are not watching the game � they paid their money, so can do what they want, and overall they are contributing to a great party-like atmosphere. Much like Brazilian Congo bands and Mexicans waving.

 

After 4 games, I am getting used to it. Even turned on the highlights this lunchtime, heard that sound, and had that  contented �ahh, the World Cup� feeling.

 

Maybe Sony should look at doing a black and yellow number for next season.

 
I wouldnt compare these things to brazlian congo bands or even the wave, oh by the way how long has this been part of south african culture??????
 
Im guessing some marketing company paid big big big bucks, once south african got the cup to make it so.
 
Just because its culture also doesnt make it right.
 
Yes some people love chanting/some hate it/ some love singing/some hate it/some love banging drums/some hate it/ some love the wave/some hate it.
 
But 99.9% of people who arent from south african, hate these things.
 
Im also guessing there would be a lot of people going to the ear clinic with this thing afterwards.
 
Then again Im getting use to it, and its less annoying than the Cu*t who let his kid scream "Americans are Poos" for the whole match,  during the woman under 17  soccer  world cup.
brettdale2010-06-13 17:01:51
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
brettdale wrote:
I wouldnt compare these things to brazlian congo bands or even the wave, oh by the way how long has this been part of south african culture??????
 
Im guessing some marketing company paid big big big bucks, once south african got the cup to make it so.


Well the South Africans who owned the Knights introduced them around six years ago.  So we'll just say no.

How's my driving? - Whine here

Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
So its only a few years old then?
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
No, it was introduced here 6 years ago because it's a long term thing in South AFrica.

How's my driving? - Whine here

Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
So decades ago they had those things?
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I haven't tried this yet but apparently this is the key to getting rid of the Vuvuzela sound on a Samsung TV:
http://twitpic.com/1vwlun

Guessing it'll work with any other brand with that function, I'm unsure what the sound is like afterwards but I'll be seeing if my Sony has the same settings and what it sounds like,
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i bought a Sony -partly because of Nix sponsorship - i really hope it can do some magic on that noise
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I still prefer them over that bloody Pompey bell.
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Or the Waikato cow bell

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
and "hurry-canes" "hurry-canes"
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
tigers wrote:
i bought a Sony -partly because of Nix sponsorship - i really hope it can do some magic on that noise


I can't unfortunately but don't let that stop you trying. I suspect my back luck is more due to age, let's just say it's a pre-Phoenix Sony era TV
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
HOrns have been around for ages. Vuvu included. love the noise.
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
In the news today South Africa's World Cup organising chief Danny Jordaan may ban vuvuzelas from inside stadiums after complaints from broadcasters, supporters & playersfrm the BBC

and almost 50,000 petitioners already after a day on here

if the players and security at stadiums are finding them a pain in the ass it prob has way more sway than the fans finding them irritating. I got used to the buzzing by the second game but I still find it irritating as and miss the chanting
Permalink Permalink
almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
 
"We are used to them and you can't enjoy the game without vuvuzelas. If there's no vuvuzelas, there is no game. It's just a traditional thing in South Africa. Abroad, they sing from the first minute to the end, here we blow vuvuzelas from the beginning to the end."
 
This^^

Allegedly

Permalink Permalink