Kiwi Players Elsewhere

Glen Moss (Macarthur FC GK Coach | Australia)

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about 9 years ago

That's exactly what I was wondering in my initial post.

Also, since Mossy is approaching 34, he may only sign for a year or two, in which case he may choose to go there himself and leave the kids in NZ (or Aussie) and travel back and forth. Lots of players do that when it's too risky or logistically complicated to move the whole family overseas.


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about 9 years ago

Its a good experience for kids IMO.

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about 9 years ago


he may choose to go there himself and leave the kids in NZ (or Aussie) and travel back and forth. Lots of players do that when it's too risky or logistically complicated to move the whole family overseas.
like that place Wellington with it's earthquakes and wind and shark.

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about 9 years ago

yellowsite wrote:


he may choose to go there himself and leave the kids in NZ (or Aussie) and travel back and forth. Lots of players do that when it's too risky or logistically complicated to move the whole family overseas.
like that place Wellington with it's earthquakes and wind and shark.

Correct - didn't Daniel's wife stay in Brazil for most of the time? And didn't Rossi's and Roly's wives move back after the recent quake?

Point it, Mossy could still easily go and play in SA if he gets the right offer, and compromise by leaving his family here.


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about 9 years ago

Mossy had another very good game last night. Super save from Broich, kept us in for the win.

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about 9 years ago

From the article on the main page it sounds like he is definitely considering his options which is fair enough on his part too.

If the Club truly intends on offering lower remuneration, all the more reasons for Mossy to look elsewhere, especially if the SPL pays more than we would offer.

What really worries me though is that apparently both Italiano and Sail are off contract at the end of the season too.. I would definitely keep Sail on as backup. I have no idea whom I would bring in as No 1 should Mossy head off though.

There seems to be a merry go-round in terms of keepers every year though, so who knows we couldn't do a Reddy or a Vukovic again!


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about 9 years ago

Tegal wrote:

Depends on the pay I guess.

Not really important if you are not around to spend it

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Kawasaki wrote:

Tegal wrote:

Depends on the pay I guess.

Not really important if you are not around to spend it

That is speaking like it's a certainty. It's not, it's a risk. 

I'd probably take my chances and live there for a year for a billion dollars, as an absurd example. 

I think the reward far outweighs the risk in that (silly) example. 


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about 9 years ago

It depends what quality of life you are looking for. There are some things that money cannot buy.

Here are a few facts about South Africa. These are over the last year.

14000 carjackings

200000 house burglaries

53000 cars/motorcycles stolen

132000 robbery with aggravating circumstances

182000 assaults with intent  to inflict grievous bodily harm 

164000 common assaults

42000 rapes

510000 sexual assaults

19000 murders 

26000 drug related offences

This is horrifying reading

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about 9 years ago

Leggy, you can't just present those figures without context. If their population in 200,000, they are horrific. If their population is 2 billion, then they actually look pretty good.


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about 9 years ago

I'd take a shark quality of life for a year if it gave me a great quality of the rest of my life. 


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about 9 years ago

Also, most of these sorts of places are fine if you just exercise some common sense and play it safe.

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about 9 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

Leggy, you can't just present those figures without context. If their population in 200,000, they are horrific. If their population is 2 billion, then they actually look pretty good.

But they don't have 2 Billion in SA.

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about 9 years ago

Leggy wrote:

It depends what quality of life you are looking for. There are some things that money cannot buy.

Here are a few facts about South Africa. These are over the last year.

14000 carjackings

200000 house burglaries

53000 cars/motorcycles stolen

132000 robbery with aggravating circumstances

182000 assaults with intent  to inflict grievous bodily harm 

164000 common assaults

42000 rapes

510000 sexual assaults

19000 murders 

26000 drug related offences

This is horrifying reading

They have 52.98 million as of 2013.

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about 9 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

Leggy, you can't just present those figures without context. If their population in 200,000, they are horrific. If their population is 2 billion, then they actually look pretty good.

It's not good, you talk to any South African and they themselves would have been a victim of crime or know someone who has. 

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about 9 years ago

There's a reason there are so many South African migrants out here.

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about 9 years ago

Leggy wrote:

It depends what quality of life you are looking for. There are some things that money cannot buy.

Here are a few facts about South Africa. These are over the last year.

14000 carjackings

200000 house burglaries

53000 cars/motorcycles stolen

132000 robbery with aggravating circumstances

182000 assaults with intent  to inflict grievous bodily harm 

164000 common assaults

42000 rapes

510000 sexual assaults

19000 murders 

26000 drug related offences

This is horrifying reading

I live in a country were most of the people have been robbed at least once and let me tell you is not that bad. Most of those crimes happen in poor neighborhoods where of course Moss won't be living in. You end up developing some skills to avoid those things such as not walking alone at night or avoiding dangerous places and learn to live with it. Moss won't be carjacked, raped and murdered by some savage African who kills people for fun. Look at Brockie and Boxall, both Kiwis and both enjoying the country. It can't be the hell that you described.

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about 9 years ago

Argie96 wrote:

Leggy wrote:

It depends what quality of life you are looking for. There are some things that money cannot buy.

Here are a few facts about South Africa. These are over the last year.

14000 carjackings

200000 house burglaries

53000 cars/motorcycles stolen

132000 robbery with aggravating circumstances

182000 assaults with intent  to inflict grievous bodily harm 

164000 common assaults

42000 rapes

510000 sexual assaults

19000 murders 

26000 drug related offences

This is horrifying reading

I live in a country were most of the people have been robbed at least once and let me tell you is not that bad. Most of those crimes happen in poor neighborhoods where of course Moss won't be living in. You end up developing some skills to avoid those things such as not walking alone at night or avoiding dangerous places and learn to live with it. Moss won't be carjacked, raped and murdered by some savage African who kills people for fun. Look at Brockie and Boxall, both Kiwis and both enjoying the country. It can't be the hell that you described.

That's exactly right. I have a friend that gets mugged all the time, it's literally happened five or six times, and it's because he just doesn't seem to have any awareness when he's traveling - he's been mugged in Paraguay, the US, twice in Canada, and in France.  He also happened to be in alleyways, staying in hostels in dodgy parts of town, or walking alone at night in those said dodgy parts in each of those situations.

Most people don't get mugged, even when they're in poorer and more crime ridden countries, this is because a little common sense is all you need. The crime statistics for foreigners and tourists are most likely for those people who think nothing of walking alone at night or down dark alleyways in a strange country while obviously looking like a rich foreigner.

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about 9 years ago

Argie96 wrote:

Leggy wrote:

It depends what quality of life you are looking for. There are some things that money cannot buy.

Here are a few facts about South Africa. These are over the last year.

14000 carjackings

200000 house burglaries

53000 cars/motorcycles stolen

132000 robbery with aggravating circumstances

182000 assaults with intent  to inflict grievous bodily harm 

164000 common assaults

42000 rapes

510000 sexual assaults

19000 murders 

26000 drug related offences

This is horrifying reading

I live in a country were most of the people have been robbed at least once and let me tell you is not that bad. Most of those crimes happen in poor neighborhoods where of course Moss won't be living in. You end up developing some skills to avoid those things such as not walking alone at night or avoiding dangerous places and learn to live with it. Moss won't be carjacked, raped and murdered by some savage African who kills people for fun. Look at Brockie and Boxall, both Kiwis and both enjoying the country. It can't be the hell that you described.

Can't be the hell you described.  Really. When you go to the petrol station you do not get out of your car. When you pull up at traffic lights all doors and windows are locked. 

I have two friends that live in Durban, both have been held up at gun point at traffic lights, ordered out of their car, car is gone never to be seen again.

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about 9 years ago

inafoxhole wrote:

There's a reason there are so many South African migrants out here.

Yeah, they wanted to live in a white majority country. Not all, but definitely some.

SA is definitely a crime ridden, unequal and corrupt country. But all adults have a vote now and things can cjange. Same was true under apartheid and most of those people stayed home. A police state which supports your ethnic group makes up for a lot.


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about 9 years ago

Your comment here I agree. It appears to have gone from one extreme to the other. I work with a lot of South Africans of various racial backgrounds and they say that they came here for the easier and safer life style. They will go back to SA for the odd trip but they do not like where the country is and has gone. Another Zimbabwe in the making. 

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about 9 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

Leggy, you can't just present those figures without context. If their population in 200,000, they are horrific. If their population is 2 billion, then they actually look pretty good.

The facts are during the Balkan war and genocide more people in those years were murdered in South Africa.

The murder rate now is about the same. 

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about 9 years ago

Tegal wrote:

I'd take a shark quality of life for a year if it gave me a great quality of the rest of my life. 

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If Moss does leave to play football in hell, what A league keepers are off contract at the end of the season? Or do we just re-sign Italiano (if we can) and Sail and hope for the best? 


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about 9 years ago

Stefan Marinovic is off contract in June. I'm not sure If he would want to come back, but playing A-league would be a step up from 4th tier in Germany. 

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about 9 years ago

We could get an import keeper too. Presumably at least one of our imports won't be here next season.

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We could get an import keeper too. Presumably at least one of our imports won't be here next season.

Ahh, Tony Warner

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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At my high school every second maths teacher was South African. Didn't really like any of them either, the English and History South African teachers were much better blokes! This was palmy too, a sizeable number of pupils were also South African born for a provincial city. As far as I know, none of them have ever gone back to SA to live, though a few have moved to aussie as you'd expect. The only surprising thing is how few SA born cricketers have played for aussie, but I guess they produce enough home grown talent in that sport, unlike tennis with the eastern European women.

I actually think the reason those figures aren't higher is because South Africans take so many precautions already from what I've heard and read.

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about 9 years ago

The only surprising thing is how few SA born cricketers have played for aussie,

Kepler Wessels.


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about 9 years ago

Moss is the least of our worries, I'd resign him, especially if he's cheap. Not sure there is an obvious better option, and our money needs to go elsewhere.

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about 9 years ago

Fenix wrote:

Moss is the least of our worries, I'd re-sign him, especially if he's cheap. Not sure there is an obvious better option, and our money needs to go elsewhere.

I do not think this is the issue here, quite the opposite.

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about 9 years ago

Tegal wrote:

If Moss does leave to play football in hell, what A league keepers are off contract at the end of the season? Or do we just re-sign Italiano (if we can) and Sail and hope for the best? 

Eugene Galekovic (rumoured interest from City)
John Hall
Michael Theo
Paul Izzo (lrumoured interest from Adelaide)
Ivan Necevski
Thomas Sorensen
Tomislav Arčaba
Ben Kennedy
Nicholas Feely
Liam Reddy
Jordan Thurtell
Lewis Italiano
Glen Moss
Jerrad Tyson

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about 9 years ago

RR wrote:

Tegal wrote:

If Moss does leave to play football in hell, what A league keepers are off contract at the end of the season? Or do we just re-sign Italiano (if we can) and Sail and hope for the best? 

Eugene Galekovic (rumoured interest from City)
John Hall
Michael Theo
Paul Izzo (lrumoured interest from Adelaide)
Ivan Necevski
Thomas Sorensen
Tomislav Arčaba
Ben Kennedy
Nicholas Feely
Liam Reddy
Jordan Thurtell
Lewis Italiano
Glen Moss
Jerrad Tyson

 
Whole pile of honk in there
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about 9 years ago

We could get an import keeper too. Presumably at least one of our imports won't be here next season.

If we have an import slot open, how about this guy? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alireza_Haghighi

Looks pretty decent, played for Iran at the World Cup and Asian Cup.

signing an import keeper is dumb

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about 9 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

We could get an import keeper too. Presumably at least one of our imports won't be here next season.

If we have an import slot open, how about this guy? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alireza_Haghighi

Looks pretty decent, played for Iran at the World Cup and Asian Cup.

signing an import keeper is dumb

How so?



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about 9 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

RR wrote:

Tegal wrote:

If Moss does leave to play football in hell, what A league keepers are off contract at the end of the season? Or do we just re-sign Italiano (if we can) and Sail and hope for the best? 

Eugene Galekovic (rumoured interest from City)
John Hall
Michael Theo
Paul Izzo (lrumoured interest from Adelaide)
Ivan Necevski
Thomas Sorensen
Tomislav Arčaba
Ben Kennedy
Nicholas Feely
Liam Reddy
Jordan Thurtell
Lewis Italiano
Glen Moss
Jerrad Tyson

 
Whole pile of honk in there

We should sign Reddy for the post-match lolz. Plus Roly might stay as he'll have a drinking buddy. 


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Yet Reddy for us was an excellent Keeper and gave you confidence as a fan.

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