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Shane Smeltz (Ronaldinho FC)

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Let's just hope she enjoys a good kebab.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
as if she will go there to find out...
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It is on the Goal.com transfer zone now. Which is for confirmed signings.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
but goal.com is a load of crap

Normo's coming home

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It is, but I do find it never seems to confirm transfers down the bottom of the homepage until they are definitely true. Could well be crap like you say though.
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Luis Garcia wrote:
Let's just hope she enjoys a good kebab.


That can be interpreted in several ways.

Three for me, and two for them.

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It is, but I do find it never seems to confirm transfers down the bottom of the homepage until they are definitely true. Could well be crap like you say though.
 
Seriously, don't believe anything from there until it is out somewhere else.  A lot of it is genuinely made up

Normo's coming home

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Buffon II wrote:
Luis Garcia wrote:
Let's just hope she enjoys a good kebab.


That can be interpreted in several ways.


Ha. Nope, just one
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I've got dibs on Smeltz being back at GCU in a week.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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yep, im not transfering him out of fantasy a-league quite yet. this all seems like its got the potential to go to sh*t on him pretty quickly meanchicken2010-08-25 14:59:35
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Should be interesting.  Everything I've seen has been sweetness and light from Gold Coast but TVNZ news have promod a story with 'sour taste' in the teaser and film of Mad Miron.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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If he is off, good on him. I just think it is a bit sh*t we had to play GCU with him scoring twice when without him we would've surely had all three points. Bummer.
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or if we defended properly we would have wonthreat2010-08-25 20:57:06
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threat wrote:
or if we defended properly we would have one


Damn it. Valid point.
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Hate to say it but I think Smeltzy's gonna have a terrible season if his side get there #1 target and he gets sent back to Gold Coast again and gets bitter and desperate to make a transfer to Europe. Even worse, could end up without a club or a 3rd/4th string choice if his new side decide to keep him and get there #1 target.
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tomrewi wrote:
Hate to say it but I think Smeltzy's gonna have a terrible season if his side get there #1 target and he gets sent back to Gold Coast again and gets bitter and desperate to make a transfer to Europe. Even worse, could end up without a club or a 3rd/4th string choice if his new side decide to keep him and get there #1 target.


The #1 target is a German, thought I read they only wanted the one foreign addition and couldn't get them both.
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yea pretty sure thats the case. he is second choice and they only want one or the other.
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dailytelegraph wrote:

Fury over Shane Smeltz transfer

EXCLUSIVE by Tom Smithies From: The Daily Telegraph August 26, 2010

A-LEAGUE Golden Boot winner Shane Smeltz is facing a sanction of more than a million dollars or a six-month ban from the game, as the Chinese club he walked out on pursue him all the way to FIFA.
Smeltz left Gold Coast United for Turkey this week and was aiming to tie up a transfer with Turkish Super League club Genclerbirligi SK.

But FIFA will rule shortly on the complaint levelled by Chinese club Shandong Luneng after Smeltz walked out 24 hours after signing a contract to join them in July.

Shandong are seeking compensation from Smeltz of the value of his contract - around $1.3 million gross - or a ban of up to six months, which would apply worldwide.

Smeltz signed with Shandong for a $300,000 transfer fee but the next day he flew back to Australia, claiming the accommodation he was offered by the club for his family was substandard.

He has argued that since the International Transfer Certificate that ratifies overseas moves hadn't been issued by Football Federation Australia, the deal is null and void.

But Shandong are said to be deeply offended by his actions, and have refused to accept the return of the $300,000 transfer fee while the case is heard.

It may also have ramifications for Gold Coast, with legal sources saying previous cases established the principle that if a player who breaches a contract joins a new club, the latter may also be liable.

Smeltz returned to Gold Coast after quitting Shandong, but United chief executive Clive Mensink said the club had done nothing wrong.

"Gold Coast United stands by its position on retaining the International Transfer Certificate, and we've always been confident of that," he said.

"We're confident the evidence will show this is correct. We deem Shane to be our player and it's up to another club to prove otherwise."

It's understood informal negotiations between Shandong and Gold Coast have not been productive.

Smeltz's case comes after goalkeeper Danny Vukovic had his contract terminated by Turkish side Konyaspor, with Vukovic seeking compensation for the three-year deal he signed at the start of July.

Players' union chief Brendan Schwab was reluctant to discuss Smeltz's case in detail, but said in general terms, a player could not unilaterally walk out on a contract.

"It's absolutely right that the status of a player's contract is a two-way issue - if a player breaks his contract without just cause, he will be under an obligation to pay compensation to his employer, just as a club should be in the reverse situation," he said.

"However in almost all instances where a player then joins another club, the new club is jointly and severally liable for compensation."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/soccer/fury-over-shane-smeltz-transfer/story-e6frey4r-1225910060029
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"It's absolutely right that the status of a player's contract is a two-way issue - if a player breaks his contract without just cause, he will be under an obligation to pay compensation to his employer, just as a club should be in the reverse situation," he said.
 
Really Brendan ?  I don't rmeber these sort of comments from you and the PFA when Con Boutsianis ran out on the Kingz...

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oh dear Smeltzy. What have you done?
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sh*t
 
fan..
 
you know the rest.
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Hard News wrote:
"It's absolutely right that the status of a player's contract is a two-way issue - if a player breaks his contract without just cause, he will be under an obligation to pay compensation to his employer, just as a club should be in the reverse situation," he said.
 
Really Brendan ?  I don't rmeber these sort of comments from you and the PFA when Con Boutsianis ran out on the Kingz...
 
 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

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All because of the wife.. this sounds bad. Anyone know for sure what will happen or have a good guess? or do we just have to wait for ruling?

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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I have some doubts about the China vs wife story.  With Ricki saying he thought Smeltzy was off to Turkey post World Cup I wonder if China was all set to go when Gencer rea-appeared on the radar and he bailed out.
 
Seeing, as we're on conspiracy theories.

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The Chinese club, Shandong Leuang (sp) have now dug their heals in over his whipped no-show.
 
This is after he  recently signed for the Turkish club, (coincidence??)
 
They want approx $1.3mill or he may cop a 6 month ban from FIFA .
 
Doesn't sound good.
 
 
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
made his own bed with the indesisiveness...either way he has to wear it...

Queenslander 3x a year.

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The Chinese club, Shandong Leuang (sp) have now dug their heals in over his whipped no-show.
 
This is after he  recently signed for the Turkish club, (coincidence??)
 
They want approx $1.3mill or he may cop a 6 month ban from FIFA .
 
Doesn't sound good.
 
 


AFAIK, Shandong Luneng were pursuing compensation since pretty much as soon as they found out he'd gone back to Gold Coast. This is more a media reaction to the Gen�lerbirli?i move than a reaction by Shandong.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Shane Smeltz doesn't have an agent. Fourfourtwo podcast mentioned it today, how they tried to contact his agent for a story, but he doesn't have one?
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Really ?

I'm pretty sure Tony Rallis (advertiser on 442 among other things) has acted in some capacity for him in the past.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah, if you ever listen to their podcast you'll hear it in this weeks addition.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The more I think about it, the more it seems like he was aware of a last minute offer to Turkey, and that's why he left. Turkey would be just as hard, if not harder, to create a life for your family as China.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Thread name change?
You know we belong together...

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
No lingering Smeltz so Gold Coast sniff fresh chances

Latest thing I could find on Smeltzy, Guess we're just waiting for a ruling.

P.S, New thread title is class.Azevo2010-08-29 02:18:39

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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Luis Garcia wrote:
Turkey would be just as hard, if not harder, to create a life for your family as China.


Surely not. It's a very Westernised country, just a short car or boat ride from the Greek islands. And Turkish is about a million times easier to learn than Mandarin.

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Doloras wrote:
Luis Garcia wrote:
Turkey would be just as hard, if not harder, to create a life for your family as China.


Surely not. It's a very Westernised country, just a short car or boat ride from the Greek islands. And Turkish is about a million times easier to learn than Mandarin.


Ankara's hardly an exciting city though. Still much easier to adjust to than China.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Interesting move...couple of ex SPL players in that team. I remember laughing particularly hard when I found out they were signing Billy Mehmet from St Mirren - that's who Smeltz will either partner or be fighting for a place in the team against!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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He will find that English is spoken widely there. Ankara will be as exciting as Wellington and is an international city really. I'd prefer somewhere on the coast or Istanbul, but as far as work goes, it would be an ok place to live for a few years.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
When's Genclerbiligi's next game?  Any chance he'll play?
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