Capital 1

I think that as long as the CL is still being played that LH can continue to drop their first teamers into lower divisions....
I would like to be corrected on this one??

As far as who Olympic are going to play in the play-off...

if LH beat Marist, Marist will be relegated and Miramar will be in the play-off

if LH and Marist draw, Marist will be relegated and LH will need a win or draw with Wharfies to send Miramar into the play-off, otherwise it would be LH

if Marist beat LH then LH would need a win against Wharfies to relegate Miramar with Marist in the playoff, else LH would be relegated with Miramar in the playoff.

All a bit confusing

Hard News2008-08-25 16:07:14

well said yourmomma, all these first teams in the premier division  who are aspiring to play in the central league, start moaning when a few of first team squad  players drop down to their grade to play for their second teams eg hutt, olympic miramar. johnny2008-08-25 16:41:53

im sure the intent of the rules is to allow clubs to move players between teams for reasons relating to form and injury etc. and thats fine.

Register your 15 man first team squad (all clubs), only three of that named list can play down any week. 

Problem solved. Hard News2008-08-25 16:53:06

maybe, but what about injuries, what about players that arrive after NZFC or just land at a club part way through the season? it would add a lot of complexity to managing the 15 man registered list.

you do make sense marius lacatus. you cannot blame the clubs, they are playing by the rules but it does make a mockery of the current structure.

The NZFC thing would need to be managed but the key to this is that the only restriction is on that 15 man list dropping down.  If you are awaiting players on the 15 man list to recover from injury or come in from NZFC duty there is nothing to stop you brining in anyone for those gaps.

In fact you could set a final deadline for your 15 man squad as the week the NZFC finishes, because no one is going to be dropping anyone that early for promotional reasons anyway.

Something would have to be done to stop some club taking the piss though and naming 15 Cap 8 players then bringing in 15 players not listed who are the normal first team.
Hard News2008-08-25 17:08:53

All good trying to improve the integrity of the NZ football structure, and keeping things all square, i do think something needs to be done to put a cap on the extent in how you use those dropped players and so on, but at the moment i see no real push for change.

Just to add a little more from the teams triving for promotion, think of it this way...

If your seacrhing for some new 1st team blood and you approach a player and tell him, Hey buddy, listen here, If you dont get first team football, you can come play seconds in Champs Premier. Doesnt that sound much better than telling him, chuck on a strip and bobsled your way down to Cap 1?


uncle steve2008-08-25 17:37:16

Link to Capital Football regulations: finisher2008-08-25 20:31:45

so there is a high chsnce thsy in a relegation playoff we could end up facing what resembles island bays or marists first teams?

Another couple of possibilities  I have heard to change the regrading rules include judging a players "current" team as the highest team they played for the previous week (not the last game). This would still allow 3 players to drop down each week, but wouldn't allow players to be dropped to a 3rd team before being "promoted" to the 2nd team the same weekend.

Alternatively, insist on a player playing 3 (or 2, or 4...) consecutive games for a single lower grade side before he is regarded as being a member of that team....
This would allow 3 players to be dropped in any one week, but even if they didn't play for the firsts in the meantime, they would still be regarded as a 1st team player for the following (2) weeks. After the 3 weeks another 3 players could then be dropped.
This would still allow a team to drop 3 players to the 2nds, 3 to the 3rds etc, but it would be 3 weeks until the 3 from the 3rds could be "promoted" to the seconds.

There are certainly ways of altering the rules however, as has been mentioned, there needs to be a number of clubs who actually want to push for a change


wulfsteam2008-08-26 14:15:47

Yes, but 18 of them won't be named in the playing squad every week will they ?

By keeping it at 15 you leave room for the extra squad members to play down a grade to make sure they get a game but you lock in the top 15 to avoid the ridiculous situation going on now.

So you saying that a coach can only use those he named at the star of the season and cant change players apart from 3...??

No,

I'm saying that no more than 3 of that 15 can play in anything other than the top team in any one round... pretty much exactly what I wrote originally.

still wouldnt work...lol

why not

i have my doubts as well.

Leave and let live.

What happens if team from Fed. 4 (Central Fed) wins the promotion relegation games against both Wairarapa and then Stop Out, would this mean that only 1 side from Cap 1 would by promoted and 2 teams from cap premier get relegated? or would it mean just 1 team gets relegated from Cap Premier and no team gets promoted. This result would cause abit of debate!

ok thats what my original post was supposed to mean lol

Not sure what happened to my first attempted reply to this (but I can't see it)

But I think another play-off would have to be arranged, possibly between the winner of Cap 1 and 2nd bottom of Cap Prem to decide who goes up/down.... or something like that

with petone goin to central league last year upper hutt (i think) got to play in champs premier even tho they lost the play off game to marist, so in this case the loser of the promo/relegation match would be in cap 1, so ther could be 2 teams from champs premier to be relegated...correct me if i'm wrong

That's correct.

I don't know if you're replying to the other question about 2 teams going up and 1 coming down, but there is the possibility of Stop Out coming down this year with a non-Wgtn division team being promoted to CL (basically the opposite of what happened with Petone last year). Hence 2 teams might be relegated from CP with only 1 coming up from Capital 1.

Uni defaulting to Wainui today. what's that about?

Uni holidays i guess, becuase they tend to struggle to have all there players available at these times of the year...bt to default, interesting becuase aren't they fighting for survival in the league?

Uni holidays, the scourge of Varsity continues

Shouldnt be allowed in such a high grade if they cant field a team each week.

very poor for any club's first team not to be able to field a team

been told this game still on richard prouse 2:30